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Canuckistan
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Story here.

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Fewer than 190,000 people are living in New Orleans a year after hurricane Katrina, a door-to-door survey released Thursday showed.

The population of 187,525 is about 41 per cent of the 454,000 people estimated to be living in Orleans Parish before the storm hit Aug. 29, 2005.



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Not to be snarky, but is this supposed to be news? In a city where most of the infrastructure is still in chaos, it is not feasible for the people to return, even if they had the money or the desire to do so.

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Astra
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Originally posted by Griffin 2020:
Not to be snarky, but is this supposed to be news? In a city where most of the infrastructure is still in chaos, it is not feasible for the people to return, even if they had the money or the desire to do so.

It might be to all the people who seem to be convinced that New Orleans should be completely back to normal, after all they've had a whole YEAR to recover [Roll Eyes]

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A massive hurricane nearly wipes the city off the face of the Earth and kills thousand of people and now less people want to live there? I am shocked! Shocked I tell you!

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Originally posted by Griffin 2020:
Not to be snarky, but is this supposed to be news? In a city where most of the infrastructure is still in chaos, it is not feasible for the people to return, even if they had the money or the desire to do so.

I don't think anyone questioned that the population was down, but a new tally on the actual population is almost certainly news.
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Originally posted by Joe Bentley:
A massive hurricane nearly wipes the city off the face of the Earth and kills thousand of people and now less people want to live there? I am shocked! Shocked I tell you!

Not living there is not the same as not wanting to live there. Among that 60% I'm sure there are some who miss their hometown terribly but for one reason or another find it impractical to go back.

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quote:
Originally posted by Joe Bentley:
A massive hurricane nearly wipes the city off the face of the Earth and kills thousand of people and now less people want to live there? I am shocked! Shocked I tell you!

Someone posts an article that shows that a major city has it's population decrease by a an enormous amount. And this is your response? You're pathetic. No, really, we're all fascinated by the idiotic "facts" you bring to those threads on bottled water. Good to know you're on the side of truth there, Joe. Don't know what we'd we do without you.

ETA: My apologies for the tone of this remark. It was totally uncalled for.

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I confess that I'm still amazed anyone wanted to live there to start with. What were the people who founded New Orleans thinking?

"Hey! I've found this great place for a city. It's all swampland! And below sea level, too. Even better, it gets these really huge storms occasionally!"

"Sounds perfect."

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Lainie
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Originally posted by DevilBunny:
I confess that I'm still amazed anyone wanted to live there to start with. What were the people who founded New Orleans thinking?

"Hey! I've found this great place for a city. It's all swampland! And below sea level, too. Even better, it gets these really huge storms occasionally!"

"Sounds perfect."

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To start with, it was founded before people had the understanding of river systems we have now, or the purposes served by wetlands. And the original settlement wasn't below sea level -- development in those areas happened later.

Poor site selection isn't unique to New Orleans. Seattle was founded on tidal flats at the base of very steep cliffs. Later, after a fire, high-pressure hoses were used to regrade the cliffs into steep hills. The city was rebuilt on fill dirt from the regrading -- not the best foundation for a city located in an earthquake zone.

And to this day, people routinely build homes on hurricane-prone coastal areas and islands, in river floodplains, and near active volcanoes (Mount Rainier and Mount Shasta).

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Originally posted by Steve:
My apologies for the tone of this remark. It was totally uncalled for.

Don't worry about. Consider it forgotten. [Smile]

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I actually agree with Joe. It isn't a surprise that people don't want to live there right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if the population decrease in Mississippi was less than in New Orleans. Simply because of the publicity New Orleans got over other areas that were also hit very hard.

Consider that every city has attrition (I need a spell checker) and that new people move into cities all the time. But nobody new is moving to New Orleans unless they are aid workers. There is more fear generated when something like that happens in your lifetime. If nothing like that happens for the next 25 years or so, another generation will grow up and start moving into the area again.

And as an fyi, St. Helens is more active than Rainier, at least in its spewing. [Smile] (Looks out at Mt. Rainier)

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One factor here is the high unemployment that existed in NO. A friend at work had his cousin land here with his family and the contents of their car. They had both been out of work for several months in NO. Being used to the job market in NO they hit the ground running putting in applications their first day in town. Within a week mom was working at Wal-mart. She couldn't believe it. In another two weeks Dad was working where I work. They are still there. There is no way in the world these people are going back to NO. That's the working folks. The welfare bunch isn't going to care where their welfare checks come from as long as they come in. Katrina changed the face of No permenently.
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Originally posted by Bad Company:
One factor here is the high unemployment that existed in NO. A friend at work had his cousin land here with his family and the contents of their car. They had both been out of work for several months in NO. Being used to the job market in NO they hit the ground running putting in applications their first day in town. Within a week mom was working at Wal-mart. She couldn't believe it. In another two weeks Dad was working where I work. They are still there. There is no way in the world these people are going back to NO. That's the working folks. The welfare bunch isn't going to care where their welfare checks come from as long as they come in. Katrina changed the face of No permenently.

We got a lot of evacuees in Texas and that sort of thing was happened a fair bit. Part of the relief effort here was a push to provide jobs and it got a lot of people working. It wasnt uncommon to see local news stories where they talked to evacuees who said they never wanted to go back to New Orleans because things were just so much better for them here then in New Orleans prior to Katrina or talked about how much nicer people were to them here.
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Originally posted by btvsrcks:
And as an fyi, St. Helens is more active than Rainier, at least in its spewing. [Smile] (Looks out at Mt. Rainier)

I lived in the Seattle area for several years, so I'm aware of the relative activity levels of the two mountains. But are there are housing developments sprouting up around the base of St. Helens? That was the point I was addressing.

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Not exactly (it's a National Park), nor are there housing developments 'at the base' of Rainier. But there are dangers in living along the path of a past/potential lahar from Rainier, even at some distance away from the mountain itself.

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Originally posted by Tootsie Plunkette:
Not exactly (it's a National Park), nor are there housing developments 'at the base' of Rainier. But there are dangers in living along the path of a past/potential lahar from Rainier, even at some distance away from the mountain itself.

In my original post, I said "near active volcanoes." That was a more accurate expression of my point.

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Originally posted by btvsrcks:
I wouldn't be surprised if the population decrease in Mississippi was less than in New Orleans. Simply because of the publicity New Orleans got over other areas that were also hit very hard.

Mississippi has actually seen a population increase, at least in the southern/central regions. Tons of people from south Louisiana have moved up here. The population of Picayune, MS, has roughly tripled and Hattiesburg is packed.

While parts of the coast were obliterated, I don't think as many homes over here were damaged by water standing in them for days. If people did move in Mississippi, they seem to have moved from the coast to new homes inland or further north.

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