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abbubmah
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Empty trailers, No answers.

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And FEMA rules make it hard for reporters to talk freely to the few park residents about life there. During an interview in one trailer, a security guard knocked on the door, ordered the reporter out and eventually called police, saying residents aren’t allowed to talk to the media in the park.
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As they left, the guard refused to let the reporter give Devall a business card so she could contact the newspaper later by phone.

“You will not give her a business card,” the guard said. “She’s not allowed to have that.”

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Matthew and Shawn Cheramie Dupre have lived in a tent for 5 1/2 months in Venice without electricity while waiting for a FEMA trailer.

“We lost everything in the storm. And living in a tent has been really hard,” Matthew Dupre said in a recent interview. “FEMA’s told us for months they didn’t have a trailer for us.”

When asked whether FEMA told them about the Davant trailer park, Dupre said: “They’ve never said anything about it to us. They never told us there were trailers there.”



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Why can't FEMA get it right? Why is time and money still being spent of covering up its failures?

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Question: How in the hell can a security guard keep a citizen of the USA from speaking to a member of the media or not allow the citizen to accept a business card? If these are rules set forth by FEMA, it is frightening. Wouldn't that be unconstitutional?

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Unbelievable. The thing about "no reporters" is ridiculous.

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This has been an issue from day one.

FEMA took complete control over the disaster, with no regard to other agencies, and any people they displaced or began care were under restrictions that were unbelievable.

The whole TFH - government out to control your lives was, and is, an mode of operation with FEMA. What I find bothersome is that no one is willing or able to take the government to task on this.

They have, from all accounts, "everything under control"; yet, it looks like we just had a hurricane. New Orleans still has flooded cars abandoned all over the city. Electricity to some areas has just recently been restored.

They won't let people live in trailers, or move in trailers because their guidelines prohibit placing them in flood-prone areas. Hello? knock-knock, anybody home? THAT'S WHY IT'S A DISASTER AREA! The cost of the trailers should be considered expendable in the greater picture of providing shelter, for as long as possible.

Government property guidelines... pretty inflexible.

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Policy. It's all policy. And in ten months no one changed the bad policy.....only seemed to have added more.

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quote:
Originally posted by abbubmah:
They won't let people live in trailers, or move in trailers because their guidelines prohibit placing them in flood-prone areas. Hello? knock-knock, anybody home? THAT'S WHY IT'S A DISASTER AREA! The cost of the trailers should be considered expendable in the greater picture of providing shelter, for as long as possible.

Government property guidelines... pretty inflexible.

They move them into a flood prone area, next hurricane season, their trailer floods, they lose even more, they proceed to sue. There's a reason these things are policy
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Originally posted by abigsmurf:
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Originally posted by abbubmah:
They won't let people live in trailers, or move in trailers because their guidelines prohibit placing them in flood-prone areas. Hello? knock-knock, anybody home? THAT'S WHY IT'S A DISASTER AREA! The cost of the trailers should be considered expendable in the greater picture of providing shelter, for as long as possible.

Government property guidelines... pretty inflexible.

They move them into a flood prone area, next hurricane season, their trailer floods, they lose even more, they proceed to sue. There's a reason these things are policy
There are flood prone areas and then there are flood prone areas. I wouldn't want them moved to any area that flooded every few years. But I would have no objection to placing them in a location that would require a direct hit by a level 4 or 5 hurricane before it floods.

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quote:
Originally posted by Signora Del Drago:
Question: How in the hell can a security guard keep a citizen of the USA from speaking to a member of the media or not allow the citizen to accept a business card? If these are rules set forth by FEMA, it is frightening. Wouldn't that be unconstitutional?

I found that part disturbing, too. And given the situation the residents are living in, they may be disinclined to assert their rights.

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Heck, I'm surprised the Reporter didn't push the issue with the security guard. He would have had a hell of a bigger story if he had been arrested then the story he was working on!
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Something is making my BS-meter go off...

The "reporter" went to talk to the woman... even after being told that visitors must be escorted. Then the jerk of a security guard kicked them out. Later, the reporter AND A PHOTOGRAPHER goes outside the fence to talk to someone else through the fence. They park ILLEGALLY on the interstate, and talk - then Mr. Jerk Security Guard comes back to kick them out of something they weren't "in".

And Mr. PHOTOGRAPHER didn't get a picture of the guard to use to get answers?? Excuse me?!?! First off, there weren't dates and times - no physical description of the guard.

And a professional photographer failed to get pictures.

Something isn't adding up for me, and it smells of Jayson Blair... being all made up. No problem with an anecdote - but if you have a photographer, get a snapshot of the guy that appears to be doing something not only illegal, but UNCONSTITUTIONAL and then use it for fodder!!

Jesus, if some nobody can get ten minutes of cops thumping on Rodney King, a professional photographer can get ONE candid shot of an ass breaking the law, can't he??

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Heh. My son had a temp job with FEMA, for over a month, loading furniture into those thousands of trailers that are currently languishing, unoccupied, on an old runway in Hope, Ar. Your tax dollars at work.

I want to know why somebody didn't figure out BEFORE they bought thousands of mobile homes and furniture for them, that they would then be unable to place them in the hurricane zone.

I haven't followed it lately but I do know that the whole thing stinks to high heaven and we'll probably never know the whole story, but if I had to just guess wildly, I'd figure that somebody who sells mobile homes has a good buddy in FEMA somewhere.

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Originally posted by Malruhn:
And Mr. PHOTOGRAPHER didn't get a picture of the guard to use to get answers?? Excuse me?!?! First off, there weren't dates and times - no physical description of the guard.

And a professional photographer failed to get pictures.

The fact that we can't locate a picture on the internet does not mean one doesn't exist. And the lack of a physical description of the guard means nothing.

But, it's an interesting idea.

Do I have to break out the tin foil if I kinda sorta agree with ham?

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Originally posted by Sara at home:
Do I have to break out the tin foil if I kinda sorta agree with ham?

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It's government bureaucracy. The government property rules are so strict about wasting what was purchased with taxpayer dollars that "expendable" isn't in their vocabulary. They would rather pay $100 a day for hotel rooms than place people in a trailer that might be lost in a storm... the money for the trailer is already spent. 6 months in a hotel room is probably 20 grand.

OK, everybody is now out of the hotels, but that's an example of government waste. It's allowed expenses vs. property value. Even if throwing away the property is cheaper, they don't do it.

The ice fiasco was another. They paid drivers to haul ice all over the country, trying to stage it to the affected areas, then when it wasn't needed, they sent it as far as Maine to store it. It would have been far cheaper to just let it melt then buy more if needed.

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Members of Congress outraged over FEMA restrictions.

Also, on the question of how FEMA money is being spent:

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“We as taxpayers have every right to know how much is being spent on trailers that aren’t being used,” Jindal said. “That impacts us directly because that’s money that could be used in our state … and there’s a possibility that state and local parishes will be paying a portion of some of these costs.”


This morning on WWL radio, Jindal related a meeting he was in where he asked how money was being spent, and was told "you don't need to know that". Parishes are being asked to underwrite portions of aid, but aren't told how much FEMA is paying or how it is being applied.

It's coming to a boil...

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Just off I-59, south of Hattiesburg, there is a huge lot full of FEMA trailers. They started collecting there a couple of weeks after the storm and the number steadily increased up until the last couple of months.

They are all empty. It's a storage facility.

Regarding the ice policy, several semis full of ice were parked along the Mississippi coast as the hurricane approached. Some of the semis were no longer there afterward. Setting up staging areas is a nice idea, but setting them up less than a block off the beach... whose bright idea was that?

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FEMA policy on media reversed under pressure.

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I talked to a co-worker yesterday who had just received his FEMA trailer.

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The trailers I referred to in my earlier post are still there. Apparently they are now awaiting auction. No, I don't understand it either.

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Originally posted by abbubmah:
I talked to a co-worker yesterday who had just received his FEMA trailer.

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Maybe FEMA was waiting until the end of this year's hurricane season so the trailers wouldn't get broken if another one came.

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