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Comment: Come on now, please tell us what millions of Americans are
wanting to know. Was Karl Rove's grandfather a Gauleiter of the Nazi Party
in his home town and help in the construction of a death camp? This should
have already been investigated. It has been widely published that he was,
now please verify this and let the world know. Please do this!

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cdclagett
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Exactly what difference would it make whether or not Roves' grandfather was a Nazi or not?
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Heck, Arnold Schwartzanegger's father was a Nazi...and look how he turned out!

(I have ancestors on both sides of the 100 Years' War...)

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Dr. Wernher von Braun was a Nazi, look how he turned out!

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Heck, the pope was a member of the Hitler Youth...

Besides, this isn't Qo'noS...

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Knowing whether Karl Rove's grandfather was a Nazi really is significant. As we all know, if we're related to someone, we must be just like them. [Roll Eyes]

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Karl Rove's grandfather was Vidkun Quisling?

(Not likely the German Josef Terboven.)

ETA: Discussed here and here. Rove is of Norwegian, not German descent.

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When I was growing up, the sweetest old German man lived down the street from me. He lived all alone (his wife had died) with his cat, and I would always go to his house to help him out with little odd jobs and such.

When I was in the fifth grade they deported him because it turned out he was Nazi during the war. It was all over the news and everything.

My dad's side of the family is Jewish, and there were relatives of mine that were killed in the concentration camps. This being said, I think deporting him was horrible.

I don't think people quite realize that it wasn't always a choice...that doesn't make it right, but there it is.

He was a sweet old man, and I still miss him to this day.

Sorry for the hijack, but I think this Nazi stuff gets a little out of hand from time to time, and this is just another example of it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lydia Oh Lydia:
Knowing whether Karl Rove's grandfather was a Nazi really is significant. As we all know, if we're related to someone, we must be just like them. [Roll Eyes]

Well, I wouldn't be so hasty as to say it doesn't. For example, I'm distantly descended from John Philip Holland, and I just can't stop with the inventing submarines to drive the British out of Ireland.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Lydia Oh Lydia:
Knowing whether Karl Rove's grandfather was a Nazi really is significant. As we all know, if we're related to someone, we must be just like them. [Roll Eyes]

Well, I wouldn't be so hasty as to say it doesn't. For example, I'm distantly descended from John Philip Holland, and I just can't stop with the inventing submarines to drive the British out of Ireland.
Dara, really...isn't it getting just a little out of hand, now? It was one thing when you were doing it as a hobby on weekends, but now it seems to have taken over your whole life!

I'm worried, Dara.

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quote:
Originally posted by Panda_Marie:
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Originally posted by Dara:
quote:
Originally posted by Lydia Oh Lydia:
Knowing whether Karl Rove's grandfather was a Nazi really is significant. As we all know, if we're related to someone, we must be just like them. [Roll Eyes]

Well, I wouldn't be so hasty as to say it doesn't. For example, I'm distantly descended from John Philip Holland, and I just can't stop with the inventing submarines to drive the British out of Ireland.
Dara, really...isn't it getting just a little out of hand, now? It was one thing when you were doing it as a hobby on weekends, but now it seems to have taken over your whole life!

I'm worried, Dara.

Look, I can stop inventing submarines any time I like! I just don't see why I should have to. I mean, it's not like it hurts anyone (except of course the British, who I intend to drive from Ireland. Incidentally, once I've managed that, I've got something to say about the sovereignty of the Isle of Man. Look out, Albion!)

And, seriously, there was no need for the Intervention and I am not going to any of those meetings. It's not me has the problem.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dara:
quote:
Originally posted by Panda_Marie:
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Originally posted by Dara:
quote:
Originally posted by Lydia Oh Lydia:
Knowing whether Karl Rove's grandfather was a Nazi really is significant. As we all know, if we're related to someone, we must be just like them. [Roll Eyes]

Well, I wouldn't be so hasty as to say it doesn't. For example, I'm distantly descended from John Philip Holland, and I just can't stop with the inventing submarines to drive the British out of Ireland.
Dara, really...isn't it getting just a little out of hand, now? It was one thing when you were doing it as a hobby on weekends, but now it seems to have taken over your whole life!

I'm worried, Dara.

Look, I can stop inventing submarines any time I like! I just don't see why I should have to. I mean, it's not like it hurts anyone (except of course the British, who I intend to drive from Ireland. Incidentally, once I've managed that, I've got something to say about the sovereignty of the Isle of Man. Look out, Albion!)

And, seriously, there was no need for the Intervention and I am not going to any of those meetings. It's not me has the problem.

WHERE DID I GO WRONG?!

*sobs uncontrollably*

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quote:
Originally posted by Panda_Marie:
When I was in the fifth grade they deported him because it turned out he was Nazi during the war. It was all over the news and everything.

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I don't think people quite realize that it wasn't always a choice...that doesn't make it right, but there it is.

I get the vibe that being a Nazi in Germany during that time was akin to being a Communist in the Soviet Union before it fell. It wasn't necessarily required, but it was probably a good idea, even if you didn't necessarily subscribe to their views.

If the person was involved in the holocaust, that's one thing, but being a member of the ruling party in that situation doesn't necessarily make one evil.

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Originally posted by Panda_Marie:
When I was in the fifth grade they deported him because it turned out he was Nazi during the war. It was all over the news and everything.

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I don't think people quite realize that it wasn't always a choice...that doesn't make it right, but there it is.

I get the vibe that being a Nazi in Germany during that time was akin to being a Communist in the Soviet Union before it fell. It wasn't necessarily required, but it was probably a good idea, even if you didn't necessarily subscribe to their views.

If the person was involved in the holocaust, that's one thing, but being a member of the ruling party in that situation doesn't necessarily make one evil.

That's what I meant by "not always a choice". If you're threatened, you're not being given much of a choice.

I don't remember what level of involvement he had, but I remember it not being very much.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Furious:
I get the vibe that being a Nazi in Germany during that time was akin to being a Communist in the Soviet Union before it fell. It wasn't necessarily required, but it was probably a good idea, even if you didn't necessarily subscribe to their views.

That's the best way to describe it. There was even a designation on the paperwork for de-Naziisation that indicated that someone had joined the party because the had to. In Opa's cas I believe he had to join because he was in the military, I know he definitely did not share the party's views.

I guess that makes me a Nazi grandchild, doesn't it?

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