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Astra
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All Dale Earnhardt Inc. NASCAR machines will be honoring Lisa Lopes of TLC by running a black stripe under their left headlight. This is a response to her autopsy photos being posted on the internet, as were those of Dale Earnhardt Sr.

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That's a really sweet thing for Jr. and company to do. And the pit crew? Awww.

I'll never understand the fascination of seeing morgue pictures. Geesh.

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Astra
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I understand why autopsy photos should be publicly available... but I really am creeped out by these guys who put them on the internet as a freak show. I don't understand the attraction of looking at dead celebrities, or dead anyone else for that matter. It isn't being done to educate, just to point and go "ewwwwwww!"

Or worse yet, be displayed next to porn at StileProject or Rotten.com [Mad]

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Well, what does anyone expect from a society that gave birth to "entertainment" such as "Fear Factor"?

Human diginity is dead.

Blue "and NO, I don't want to see the autopsy photos, either!" Rose

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CNN just reported that several other race teams are also putting the black stripes on.

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Well, what does anyone expect from a society that gave birth to "entertainment" such as "Fear Factor"?

Human diginity is dead.

Blue "and NO, I don't want to see the autopsy photos, either!" Rose

I don't really think making somebody eating a beetle for shits and giggles is on par to showing photographs of somebody's dead body when they can't object, (duh, they're dead) because that is just plain disrespect. In the case of Fear Factor the person is willing, there is a payoff if they do this. What reward do dead people get out of pictures ran of their bodies?

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ThespiSis
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i think crime scene photos that include bodies and autopsy photos should be offered similar protection to copyrighted works--to only be available for legitimate educational or legal use or where the user has been given permission by the family...like copyright protection, what counts as legitimate use would probably be more than a bit subjective, but it would at least give the families some grounds to bring action against those who post such private and emotionally disturbing photos on the internet

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Originally posted by Little ThespiSister:
i think crime scene photos that include bodies and autopsy photos should be offered similar protection to copyrighted works--to only be available for legitimate educational or legal use or where the user has been given permission by the family...like copyright protection, what counts as legitimate use would probably be more than a bit subjective, but it would at least give the families some grounds to bring action against those who post such private and emotionally disturbing photos on the internet

Sorry, I have to disagree. They are and must remain a public record. They are not owned by anyone and cannot be copyrighted. They are held by the government in trust for us. We -- you, me and everyone who lives in this country (I am speaking here of the United States) -- have a right to them because we are the government.

Of course, I do not agree with publishing them on the Internet for entertainment value. But we do live in a free society, and unfortunately that's one of the things we have to put up with.

They are pictures taken by a public entity, for public record, and cannot be kept private.

Many public records are potentially embarrassing -- divorce records, bankruptcy files, search warrants, criminal proceedings, etc. I don't see how we can single out one -- autopsy photos -- and say they are now off limits simple because a family was "embarrassed" by them.

Such items have been public record for quite some time. Autopsy photos have been in books, textbooks, magazine articles, and now, the Internet. I'm sure people have complained before, and they will in the future. But it's not like newspapers and other news agencies are flocking to the morgue looking for such photos.

I see it as a minor problem, but because a celebrity objects, it suddenly has become a major problem and we need laws to stop it. Whatever happened to those who think government should write fewer laws?

Pogue "a free and open society" Mahone

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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mahone:
We -- you, me and everyone who lives in this country (I am speaking here of the United States) -- have a right to them because we are the government.



[Laughing out loud] [Roll Eyes] [Laughing out loud] Well, technically we only "choose" our government, because we're a "republic". If this were a direct "democracy", we could actually call for a vote on this instead of having our tax dollars blown on hookers or whatever.

If Ms. Lopes or Mr. Earnhardt had contributed to politicians instead of charities, they probably wouldn't be in this mess.

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Astra
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I have to agree with Pogue. Keeping those records private would make covering things up a heck of a lot easier. They should stay be able to be accessed by the public.

It just disgusts me the way some people take advantage of that right and use it for their own profit... as in website hits. Especially when the material is presented in a way that puts pictures of dead people next to porno.

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Well, my last post was kind of vague, so I'll just say that I agree with Astra and Pogue. I also believe they should be available for public record. I just don't understand the sites that feel it's necessary to provide them for any person that comes along and decides to look at dead bodies for jollies.

But, as someone mentioned before, it's hard to keep a tight rein on something like this--especially on the internet. It's unfortunate that the families can't prevent it the way they probably would like.

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not copyrighted...just protected from use as entertainment...hmmm...it's a sticky issue, i know...let's say i just don't think they should be available for entertainment purposes...and i'm not just saying this because of celebrities...if someone posted pics on rotton.com of my father lying on the road or his autopsy photos, i know how i'd feel...violated...like some someone had shit on his grave...and it's not a feeling so trivial as "embarrassment"

public record...fine...you can go there and take a look at them yourself...magazine articles about autopsies/embalming/crime scene procedures...fine...slides in the classroom (which i've seen myself, a step by step look at how an autopsy is done) or photos in textbooks...fine...use in legal procedings...fine...i just think they should not be available for entertainment purposes

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I don't really think making somebody eating a beetle for shits and giggles is on par to showing photographs of somebody's dead body when they can't object, (duh, they're dead) because that is just plain disrespect. In the case of Fear Factor the person is willing, there is a payoff if they do this. What reward do dead people get out of pictures ran of their bodies?


I'm not talking about the participants on "Fear Factor" nor the dead people whose photos are being posted. I'm talking about the people who LOOK AT this stuff.

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Sorry, I stopped typing before adding "... for 'entertainment' purposes!"

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I remember skimming a discussion at www.ogrish.com (Warning: Do NOT click the link unless you can handle NFBSK material) about Lopes' pictures, and if they were talking about the same one, then it seems those were fakes anyway. Something about the girl in the picture having her pajamas on. I would go back to the site to check out exactly what they said, I think they have the pictures up there anyway, but ogrish is sort of like rotten.com's older, more vulgar brother, so please don't go there unless you think you have the stomach to hold it. But anyway, I think the idea about the stripe under the headlight is indeed very sweet and a great thing for him to do.

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Hey, I have something interesting and informative to add. I love when that happens.

The autopsy photo, whether real or not, was *first* posted in a newspaper.... I think from the Honduras or wherever the accident took place. Now, I don't know if it was in print newspaper, but it was online with the article accompanying it not in english. (I can't find it right now, Daily Rotten has updated it's arcives recently and i am not up for the creepiness of doing a search.)

Daily Rotten, which is more of a source for weird news than for the grossout pics its parent site has, linked to that online article but was not the origin of the pictures and last i checked was not waving the pictures around personally.

So real or fake, wrong or not, I just find it interesting that it wasn't some potentially offensive internet site spreading the pictures or starting this whole thing, but a newspaper. (and in fact i just checked and rotten.com still does not have the pictures at all. I don't visit ogrish.com so i can't speak for them.)

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