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this list may be technically correct, but could all you nice people help me explain why it is not exactly accurate. What I mean is yes, gas may be 12cents a gallon in Venusuala but that doesn;t make it "cheaper" for them than the $2.34 we pay in the US.
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48 Norway Oslo $6.27 Italy Milan $5.96 Denmark Copenhagen $5.93 Belgium Brussels $5.91 Sweden Stockholm $5.80 United Kingdom London $5.79 Germany Frankfurt $5.57 France Paris $5.54 Portugal Lisbon $5.35 Hungary Budapest $4.94 Luxembourg $4.82 Croatia Zagreb $4.81 Ireland Dublin $4.78 Switzerland Geneva $4.74 Spain Madrid $4.55 Japan Tokyo $4.24 Czech Republic Prague $4.19 Romania Bucharest $4.09 Andorra $4.08 Canada $3.89 Estonia Tallinn $3.62 Bulgaria Sofia $3.52 Brazil Brasilia $3.12 Cuba Havana $3.03 Taiwan Taipei $2.84 Lebanon Beirut $2.63 South Africa Johannesburg $2.62 Nicaragua Managua $2.61 Panama Panama City $2.19 Russia Moscow $2.10 U.S.A. $2.34 Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74 Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91 Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78 Egypt Cairo $0.65 Nigeria Lagos $0.38 Venezuela Caracas $0.12
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W ell, you could explain about how the econimies of all of these countries are in a state of flux and how wage and utilities change at a drop of a hat.....but I'm boring myself! Simply put, when you make $1.00 a day* , twelve cents a gallon is backbreaking!
(RANT ALERT)The only ones who are enjoying gas prices in third-world countries are the same people who are silent here....rich people. Ask The Donald if he has any problem with gas prices....oops, my bad. He probably only pays attention to the prices by the barrel. (rant over)
*I admit that I don't have statstics to back up this wage amount. I'm going for dramatics here!
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Exchange rates might play a small role when determining gas prices in U.S. dollars per gallon from other countries' local gas prices.
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I know they're just giving a rounded out average, but dang, I wish it were that cheap here. It's $2.70 here (or more, depending on where you go on the island).
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The reason there's such a difference in prices is due to tax. Most western countries heavily tax fuel to stop people wasting it.
The US has extremely light tax on fuel (people can all drive around in horribly ineffecient cars without being as financially penalised as they would be in other countries). Doesn't really help the US' rep as the world's biggest polluter...
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Smurf, not only are the taxes extremely low for gasoline, some might even argue that gas is subsidised. Think about it this way: if the cost of gas included the price paid by the public as a whole (the cost of medical bills for patients with asthma, lung cancer, and leukemia caused by the fumes from fossil fuels, for example), they would be much higher. But an average American Joe thinks it's fair for individual, often-poor families to have to take on the bills that the SUV-lovers of our society have placed on them.
Aaand I think I just pissed off some republicans.
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[Nitpick] Not every country dispenses petrol in gallons - I'd say in Europe at least that it would be litres. And exchange rates would play a role, definitely.
No mention of Melbourne, Australia where this week it just hit $1.30 a litre. Ouch!!
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quote:Originally posted by RubyMoon: Egypt Cairo $0.65
This is a city where you can get a simple dinner for two, with drinks and a desert to share for $1.60.
For $15* you can hire transport and a tour guide for a whole afternoon, including all tips and entry fees, and some refreshments.
Does that help put it into context ?
* We could have probably got it for less, but he was a nice guy, so we didn't haggle too hard.
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quote:Originally posted by Little Galaxy, with the lot: [Nitpick] Not every country dispenses petrol in gallons - I'd say in Europe at least that it would be litres.
It is, but the exchange rate of 3.7854 gal/L seems to be fairly stable.
The list seems outdated, anyway. Last Monday the BP station near the mall where I buy my groceries priced regular unleaded (95) at €1.299/L (and it's the cheapest I know). With an exchange rate of €1.24/$, that makes about $6.10/gal, not 5.54.
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quote:Originally posted by The Fourth Man: The list seems outdated, anyway.
That's true.
On monday, the average UK price was £0.95 / L, which translates as $6.60 per US gallon . It's probably more than that already in London, and reports suggest it could hit $7.00 in the next few weeks.
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quote:Originally posted by The Fourth Man: It is, but the exchange rate of 3.7854 gal/L seems to be fairly stable.
Except that there are 4.546 gallons to a litre.
(Or does the United States have a different gallon to the rest of the world? In which case the original list and subsequent posts could be misleading.)
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quote:Originally posted by Andrew of Ware, England: Except that there are 4.546 gallons to a litre.
Are you sure? In my world there are 4.546 litres to a gallon.
quote: (Or does the United States have a different gallon to the rest of the world? In which case the original list and subsequent posts could be misleading.)
As a matter of fact they have. Not everything is bigger in America.
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Obviously these figures have been converted from liters to gallons (for metrically impaired readers). I can't see how that would make any difference at all. (Just multiply the liter price by 3.785 and that's the price per US gallon.)
The currencies are also converted to US dollars. That would make a lot of difference because the international exchange rates for currencies don't necessarily reflect what you can buy with the "same" amount of money in a different currency. The exchange rates only show how much cash you can buy with cash on the international market and so are not very good for this type of comparison. A better comparison would compare the price of a gallon (or whatever liquid unit you choose) to the price of other commodities.
As a footnote, many of these prices may be a little old, as some others have mentioned. In Japan, we're up to about US$4.45 per gallon now. (That's 129 yen per liter.) [Footnote to a footnote: When gas prices go up here, it's no big deal. Raise the train ticket prices? Front page news!]
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As if traditional units weren't idiotic enough, you will find that they are also completely different in different countries. No hijack intended, though.
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I didn't mean to repeat what others had said so much more succinctly. My browser was showing a very old version of the page.
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Simple rule of thumb - UK gallon = 10 lbs. of water. At 454g to the pound, it's 4.54 litres. I don't know a simple way to remember the US gallon being 3.78 litres.
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This list is out of date definately, but abigsmurf hit the nail on the head - the European countries tax fuel incredibly heavily to discourage people using it, or at least wasting it so much. We generally drive around in fuel efficient cars (though some fools still insist on taking their range rover to the office just incase they meet a puddle or speed hump I suppose) and money has gone towards increasing efficiency in homes too. The European economy has had tax increases gradually so as not to create a sudden spike in petrol prices as has happened recently in the States and ruined every copanies' long term forecasts for fuel usage.
The fact remains that the US has insanely cheap fuel, and that it has been far too low for too long, and as such any fluctuation in crude prices is transferred straight to the pump. With large taxation there is at least some degree of control in the event of emergencies.
As for Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria - they all have oil on their doorstep. Of course it's going to be cheaper, even taking out the differences in economics.
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This is only my opinion.
What I have observed here in the USA is widespread abuse of our resources, gasoline and diesel fuel. I watch in amazement as people go shopping in a store and leave a car or truck engine running, ten fifteen minutes, or more!
One of my neighbors starts his engine and goes into his house and eats his breakfast while his engine idles. Too much money, not enough brains!
Everyone on my street drives the largest 4x4 king cab truck they can buy. Every other vehicle on the road is a big, gas wasting truck, or sport utility with giant tires, hauling one person.
Now people are buying the Hummer, for g--s sake why?
Drive through banks,and fast food resturants, just think of all the gasoline wasted because people are too fat and lazy to get out of a vehicle.
I use a bicycle for most of my local trips.
I could afford a Rolls Royce if I wanted, it is not the money, but waste of gasoline, a valuable resource, I do not like. I have driven mostly VW,s since 1961.
I especially liked the air cooled engines. When VW stopped manufacturing the air cooled, I tried the water boxer and drove it for seven years, but it caught fire and burned up. That was my last VW.
I am not insecure and do not need a 4x4 "trophy truck".
And Bush wants to use our national reserves!
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quote:Originally posted by Andrew of Ware, England:
quote:Originally posted by The Fourth Man: It is, but the exchange rate of 3.7854 gal/L seems to be fairly stable.
Except that there are 4.546 gallons to a litre.
(Or does the United States have a different gallon to the rest of the world? In which case the original list and subsequent posts could be misleading.)
Please read my link up there about the gallon issue. There are at least four definitions of gallon and not one of them makes any sense at all.
Incidently, that "rule of thumb" posted by Hero Mike about 454 grams or gallons or whatever it was, made me laugh! Sort of like, "You can always remember how to spell ounce because it is spelled o-u-n-c-e." Posts: 4922 | From: Kyoto, Japan | Registered: Sep 2005
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This is obviously inaccurate. There's no way it's $2.62 in South Africa. It was way more than that when I was there 4 years ago and it was a lot cheaper then. It was roughly $3.50 or so in 2001 (according to my very bad math converting litres to gallons and the number of rand I was shelling out) so it has got to be a lot higher than that now.
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I paid $ 1.03.5 a liter this morning which is about $3.91 Cdn. per U.S. gallon and converts to $3.32 U.S. per U.S. Gallon. It is high but not the $5 to $6 per gallon that panic mongers always rave about. We are told it may go up 20 or 30 cents because of the storm but there are reports that some areas have been hit with more than $1.50 per liter. And of course the profiteering will continue if the storm delays production and refining.
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quote:Originally posted by pilchik: It is high but not the $5 to $6 per gallon that panic mongers always rave about.
It broke the $ 7.00 barrier in parts of London last weekend, but I think it has dropped back below again. Well at least until this new hurricane hits.
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quote: originally posted by Doc J. "It broke the $ 7.00 barrier in parts of London last weekend, but I think it has dropped back below again. Well at least until this new hurricane hits."
Sorry about that. I was thinking mostly of our prices here in Canada where we produce much more than we use. Part of the problem is that we have very little in the way of storage facilities. Any excess that we produce goes directly into a pipeline headed south. We shouldn't have as much fluctuation as we do.
I guess I will have to start to figure out formatting, which I will do as soon as I return from the weekend.
EDIT - I forgot to mention that our entire oil production is probably less than what could be lost with these last two hurrucanes.
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Sorry I posted this and disappeared, lot of stuff going on from personal stuff, to changing ISP.
Thanks for the replies.
Neeka -- that's what I was thinking, but was looking for a better way of wording without having to explain world exconomics to a bunch of uninterested grannies.
And thanks for everyone else's opinion that gas in the US is too cheap for our own good -- that's been my opinion for years. I absiolutely hate what this country has become in my life time with drive in everything.
Now I with everyone's persmission I'm going to condence everyone's replies and respond to the original granny group that's still whining what a shame it is that other countries gas is so cheap.
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quote:Originally posted by pilchik: I paid $ 1.03.5 a liter this morning which is about $3.91 Cdn. per U.S. gallon and converts to $3.32 U.S. per U.S. Gallon. It is high but not the $5 to $6 per gallon that panic mongers always rave about. We are told it may go up 20 or 30 cents because of the storm but there are reports that some areas have been hit with more than $1.50 per liter. And of course the profiteering will continue if the storm delays production and refining.
Prices along the border tend to be lower due to competition from the less-taxed US.
We happened to be in Montréal when Katrina hit. When we topped off the rental car, gas was 1.30 CDN per litre; when we landed in France, gas was 1.30 euro per litre. Curious coincidence, given that the same day the euro was worth 1.50 CDN give or take a few cents. (converted to USian units, that gives $6 per gallon)
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In Belgium you would pay 6,40 USD per US gallon. The list was probably quite correct at the time it was published.
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quote:Originally posted by wolbeer: In Belgium you would pay 6,40 USD per US gallon. The list was probably quite correct at the time it was published.
Likewise, the gas price over here has risen to $7,85 and there's talk of it going over 15 NOK ($8,87) in not too long We have the highest food prices in Europe and correspondingly high wages, so what seems expensive for outsiders is perfectly normal prices here (although there's whinging about gas prices at the moment which I also find perfectly normal considering the rate it's rising).
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