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Yikes... I have 3 relatively near me. Two look distinctly creepy. One looks nearly respectable. Scary.
Double yikes... where I live isn't so scary anymore now that I put in my dad & sister's address and came up with 216!!!11!! And those are just the registered ones. I'm going to email my dad and let him know.
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Yeah I already know that there is one right across the street from me. I keep an eye on that place at all times. It really freaks me out when you see his crime is "Lewd Or Indecent Proposals/Acts To Child" Sick SOB!
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Y'know, child molesters and other sex offenders generally swim at the bottom of the gene pool as far as I'm concerned. However, I have mixed feelings about this -- the kid next door to us is on the list; it was essentially for a statutory offense with another high schooler (he was 2 or 3 years older) -- while this doesn't excuse his behavior (what he did was at best highly stupid and at worst morally reprehensible), I don't know that he deserves to be put out there for everyone to see, or that this information necessarily does any good. Please realize that I'm not trying to belittle his crime; I just wonder whether being made a public pariah will do anything to improve the situation or encourage him to improve himself. I understand that the intent is to try to prevent the horrors we've seen in the news when known offenders strike again, but I wonder if this opens doors to misguided vigilante efforts, etc.
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About 10 or so very close to me, 263 in my area.
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We've had quite a few discussions on the board about posting offender addresses. I also couldn't care less about the rights of the child molesters but I have come to believe that there are many people on the lists that shouldn't be there. Teenagers having sex with other teenagers do not belong in the same catagory as rapists and child molesters. While I want to be aware of criminals and potential threats to my family I am becoming swayed to the point of view that this does endanger some innocents.
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I work for an organization that has an "aliyah center," an office that Jews can come to if they wish to move to Israel permanently. The process takes 6 months to a year and is overseen by our shaliach (Israel emissary). A couple years ago, a rather persistent fella came to us for that reason and during the application process, we learned that he has a criminal record. When the shaliach asked for the details of his crimes, he mentioned that he has to register under Megan's Law wherever he goes to live. Because the shaliach is an Israeli, I had to explain to him what that means. We obtained copies of his record and learned that the guy was on parole until 2008 and cannot leave the state. Application denied!
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Oh my... There are two convicted rapists living in my neighborhood.
I am confused about one that is on the list near me. It is a woman whose offense is green ("other") and what is listed as her conviction is "false-imprisonment- non par." And that is all that is given. Anyone know what that means? I'm just morbidly curious now.
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There's 13 just in my neighborhood. Most of them witth in a mile. The closest one is up the block and around the corner. I live in a neighborhood that is full of kids too. Scarry.
(Edited to add distence where they live from my house)
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There were so many clusters in my town, so many around me... I'm stunned. I had no idea there were that many around here. There's two just up the street!
And people wonder why I don't let my kids walk home from school!
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I've got two in my attic! Oh, wait, that's squirrels.
Closest one looks to be a couple of miles away from here.
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I also did a search on my old address (I moved a few months ago) and came up with 49.
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Yeah the one who lives across the street from me has lived there his whole life. Him and his brother were always breaking into houses out there and spent most of their time getting high. Mostly pot and glue sniffing. Both brothers have spent time behind bars, but once this one got out, he came back home to live with mommy. Oh joy. Like I said, I keep a close eye on their house and on my kids. Having a big hubby and a large dog helps too.
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I wonder how accurate that list is. It says there are no offenders around me, but I know from letters home from school that there are at least three around us. Hmmm.
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quote:Originally posted by Brad from Georgia: I've got two in my attic! Oh, wait, that's squirrels.
YOMANK!!!!!!!
That made me laugh SOOOOOO hard!
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quote:Originally posted by quiltsbypam: I wonder how accurate that list is. It says there are no offenders around me, but I know from letters home from school that there are at least three around us. Hmmm.
Yeah I know that our local State site has another guy listed about a mile down the road from me. It’s probably not a bad idea to do a search on your States Sex Offenders List. I believe it maybe more accurate than this one.
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quote:Originally posted by quiltsbypam: I wonder how accurate that list is. It says there are no offenders around me, but I know from letters home from school that there are at least three around us. Hmmm.
Pam, You might be right about that. I just checked the PA sexual offender's site. Using the zip code (not street address), a pretty long list shows up. But, the physical address of the people is not given. PA's website is:
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quote:Originally posted by frogpond: And in related news John Karr is moving back to the neighborhood . . .
He may not be convicted of anything but I certainly wouldn't hire him as a teacher!
I am appalled that the HOA did that, it would not surprise me if he sues them. He has not been convicted of anything, and he is not required to register as a sex offender, they should not have given out information regarding where he is living.
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: I am appalled that the HOA did that, it would not surprise me if he sues them. He has not been convicted of anything, and he is not required to register as a sex offender, they should not have given out information regarding where he is living.
Ummm. It's a matter of public record. Everything about it is. No libel involved whatsoever. The HOA just put it together and sent it to everyone. Can't sue for that (well, perhaps a civil suit could be filed. Not sure it would succeed.)
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: I am appalled that the HOA did that, it would not surprise me if he sues them. He has not been convicted of anything, and he is not required to register as a sex offender, they should not have given out information regarding where he is living.
Ummm. It's a matter of public record. Everything about it is. No libel involved whatsoever. The HOA just put it together and sent it to everyone. Can't sue for that (well, perhaps a civil suit could be filed. Not sure it would succeed.)
Does the fact that he's been charged, though not convicted, matter? Once his name is out there in the news it can't be that hard to track him down. I know that the local newspapers routinely list the names of those purchasing homes in the Atlanta area.
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: I am appalled that the HOA did that, it would not surprise me if he sues them. He has not been convicted of anything, and he is not required to register as a sex offender, they should not have given out information regarding where he is living.
Ummm. It's a matter of public record. Everything about it is. No libel involved whatsoever. The HOA just put it together and sent it to everyone. Can't sue for that (well, perhaps a civil suit could be filed. Not sure it would succeed.)
Yes, but people also take it upon themselves to do there own sort of justice. And giving oout the address of **innocent** person, is just wrong.
** innocent as in he has not been convicted of anything.**
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: I am appalled that the HOA did that, it would not surprise me if he sues them. He has not been convicted of anything, and he is not required to register as a sex offender, they should not have given out information regarding where he is living.
Ummm. It's a matter of public record. Everything about it is. No libel involved whatsoever. The HOA just put it together and sent it to everyone. Can't sue for that (well, perhaps a civil suit could be filed. Not sure it would succeed.)
Does the fact that he's been charged, though not convicted, matter? Once his name is out there in the news it can't be that hard to track him down. I know that the local newspapers routinely list the names of those purchasing homes in the Atlanta area.
The charges were dismissed I can't remember the reason but they were. And he did not purchase the home, he moved in with his father so that point is mute.
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: I am appalled that the HOA did that, it would not surprise me if he sues them. He has not been convicted of anything, and he is not required to register as a sex offender, they should not have given out information regarding where he is living.
Ummm. It's a matter of public record. Everything about it is. No libel involved whatsoever. The HOA just put it together and sent it to everyone. Can't sue for that (well, perhaps a civil suit could be filed. Not sure it would succeed.)
Does the fact that he's been charged, though not convicted, matter? Once his name is out there in the news it can't be that hard to track him down. I know that the local newspapers routinely list the names of those purchasing homes in the Atlanta area.
The charges were dismissed I can't remember the reason but they were. And he did not purchase the home, he moved in with his father so that point is mute.
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Well, I'm afraid from what I've gleaned from the media about the man I think he is a danger. If he was in my neighborhood I'd want to know and the legalities would have to go to heck.
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I understand FrogPond and happen to agree. But the fact is according to the courts he is innocent and a free man. He has not been convicted. Just because charges are brougt up against you does not mean that you are a criminal and deserve to outed to your community. He has a right to privacy just as much as the rest of us. Regardless what the public opinion of him may be.
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Suppose he applied for a job at a local school? It would be unlikely for someone there not to recognize his name. Since the charges have been dismissed would they have to hire him if there was no other reason not to?
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Would it not be discrimination if they did not hire him based on media reports ?
I am not trying to defend him or anything, but he does have a right to live as a free man since well he is.
And yes it would be wrong for the school not to hire him, if they found no reason ( media reports withstanding) not to, if he is qualified. Though I am sure they will find some sort of reason not to.
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quote:Originally posted by kallrynne: It is a woman whose offense is green ("other") and what is listed as her conviction is "false-imprisonment- non par." And that is all that is given. Anyone know what that means? I'm just morbidly curious now.
False-imprisonment is a type of kidnapping where you don't take the person to somewhere else, but won't let them leave someplace. I assume "non par" means non-parental. There are probably two classes. Parental could be where a non-custodial parent keeps the child for more than their alloted time. Non-parental is probably when someone with no authority over the child keeps them or someone keeps an adult. I would guess that is more severe than parental.
What I'm curious is why it is on a sex offenders registry as kidnapping is not included on the registry. It could be something like she was saying or showing sexual things to a kid or adult and wouldn't let them leave. The DA might have plea bargained it to false-imprisonment with the stipulation that she register as a sex offender.
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: And giving oout the address of **innocent** person, is just wrong.
Again, your address, if you list it on a DL or other form of ID, is a matter of public record, innocent, guilty, and anywhere in between.
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: And giving oout the address of **innocent** person, is just wrong.
Again, your address, if you list it on a DL or other form of ID, is a matter of public record, innocent, guilty, and anywhere in between.
However the HOA typed up an email and sent it out to people in the neighborhood, What if he had not changed his ID's and such over to GA. Afterall he moved in with his father. So what if there no public record of him moving to GA just yet? Is it still right to give out information that might not be public.
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_eyes: He has a right to privacy just as much as the rest of us
And official place of residence doesn't fall under right of privacy,
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Yes, but I still have a problem with the HOA taking it upon themselves to write an email to over 2000 people telling them who moved into the neighborhood.
The man deserves his privacy, he does not deserve to have his name and address sent out to hundreds of people over things he was found not guilty of.
I would actually like to see the email that was sent out.
And in your way of thinking Ryda, any of your friends who have your address can send out an email to other people telling them where you live, because according to you, your official place of residence doesnt fall under your right to privacy.
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