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Comment: I sure you've heard of the Super Mario
Bros. video game series. Will theres the game Super Mario Bothers 2 for
Nintendo, came out in 1988, I think I remember one of the bosses in the
game was a transvestite.

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Kauna
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It's Birdo who was a boy but thought he was a girl(or wanted to be a girl). He's still featured in the new Mario games but they've changed his gender so it's not weird for kids and gave him a new name. I can't remember what the new name is though. I think it's Charlette or something. Birdo

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Chris J
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So in other words: Birdo was a boy who thought he was a girl, but we knew it wouldn't last. Get back, Birdo...
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Birdo has changed name? That's news to me... I'll have to check the next time I play the Double Dash, I know for sure he was called Birdo up until the SNES RPG at least.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chris J, off on a tangent:
So in other words: Birdo was a boy who thought he was a girl, but we knew it wouldn't last. Get back, Birdo...

Clever.

Now I got that song stuck in my head.

Birdo left his home in Tucson, Arizona
For some California grass.

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No no you got it wrong. THe whole affair was half a joke and hald based upon poor translation of the origional manual. THe idea was that Birdo was a boy who thought it was a she.

Since the re-release of SMB 2 for teh Game Boy, it was straitened up that Birdo was in fact female.
All Current Nintendo Sites identify her as Birdo and they like to keep info on her hush hush.

From Nintentdo's FAQ forums (and by a mod there):
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Q: Is Birdo a girl or a guy? What about Yoshi?
A: Birdo is in fact a girl. In the manual for Super Mario Bros. 2, it was stated that she was a guy that dressed like a girl. It's since been learned that she is in fact a girl. Whether NOA made a mistake in the SMB2 manual, or they just needed a girl to pair with Yoshi is unknown. As for Yoshi, a common question is "If he's a guy, how can he lay eggs?" I'm not sure if there's a clear answer. I've always heard it this way: Boy Yoshi's can lay eggs, but only girl Yoshi's eggs can hatch. I don't know if Nintendo has an official response, however.

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Can't we just go to the source, and ask the guy who invented Mario?

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In the game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Birdo is very clearly a girl. She even falls in love with a character named Popple (although the romance is short-lived). She asked him to call her "Birdie," although her real name is "Birdo." There's more information about her in The Super Mario Character Guide, which can be found at GameFAQs. Note that there are many inconsistencies in the Mario series, especially when characters or storylines get reused, so it's possible that Birdo was originally intended to be a boy, but Nintendo later decided to make her a girl.

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quote:
Originally posted by chillas:
Can't we just go to the source, and ask the guy who invented Mario?

SMB2 in America and SMB2 in Japan are different games. SMB2 looked a lot like SMB1 but a lot harder. So for SMB2 in America they used Mario sprites for a totally different game. Doki Doki. They got around this travesty of Mario continuity by the lamest of plot devices, the dream sequence. Therefore, it doesn't matter what birdo/birdee was. SMB2 is not in Mario canon.

Maybe Yoshi is related to seahorses where the males give live birth.

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quote:
Originally posted by damsa:
quote:
Originally posted by chillas:
Can't we just go to the source, and ask the guy who invented Mario?

SMB2 in America and SMB2 in Japan are different games. SMB2 looked a lot like SMB1 but a lot harder. So for SMB2 in America they used Mario sprites for a totally different game. Doki Doki. They got around this travesty of Mario continuity by the lamest of plot devices, the dream sequence. Therefore, it doesn't matter what birdo/birdee was. SMB2 is not in Mario canon.

Maybe Yoshi is related to seahorses where the males give live birth.

Except that the continuity was shot to hell anyway, because other enemies (such as the Shyguys), along with Birdo herself show up in other games.

Also, later on the US SMB2 was released in Japan as "SMB2 USA" or something to that effect.

(And the original game was Dream Factory: Doki Doki Panic.)

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Sorry, I was making a joke that fell flat ... the "I invented Mario" guy who posted here for a very brief time.

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Note that the "original" SMB2 was eventually released in the US as "The Lost Levels", though I'm not sure if it was released as a stand-alone game or as a bonus to other games. I'm about certain it's on the "All Star" cartridge for the SNES.

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quote:
Originally posted by Oualawouzou:
Note that the "original" SMB2 was eventually released in the US as "The Lost Levels", though I'm not sure if it was released as a stand-alone game or as a bonus to other games. I'm about certain it's on the "All Star" cartridge for the SNES.

Yes it was released in the All Stars" package which I still own for the SNES.

And since Birdo has appeared in other games (most recently Super Mario Double Dash for the Game Cube, as well as Mario Tennis and I think the Mario Golf game as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by damsa:
quote:
Originally posted by chillas:
Can't we just go to the source, and ask the guy who invented Mario?

SMB2 in America and SMB2 in Japan are different games. SMB2 looked a lot like SMB1 but a lot harder. So for SMB2 in America they used Mario sprites for a totally different game. Doki Doki. They got around this travesty of Mario continuity by the lamest of plot devices, the dream sequence. Therefore, it doesn't matter what birdo/birdee was. SMB2 is not in Mario canon.

Maybe Yoshi is related to seahorses where the males give live birth.

Actually, SMB2 is very much considered Mario cannon. Even in the Japanese games, characters from SMB2 have appeared in other SMB games. Of course, the Mario "cannon" doesn't mean a whole lot since there's little continuity in the story anyway, but the characters in SMB2 are considered official Mario characters.

As for the Yoshis, Nintendo's current take on them is that all Yoshis can lay eggs, but only female Yoshis can lay eggs that can hatch.

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I thought the crazy characters in the game were A Sexual including Birdo and Yoshi. [Eek!]

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Of course, the Mario "cannon" doesn't mean a whole lot since there's little continuity in the story anyway, but the characters in SMB2 are considered official Mario characters.

As for the Yoshis, Nintendo's current take on them is that all Yoshis can lay eggs, but only female Yoshis can lay eggs that can hatch.

I too was trying to make a joke. But maybe Yoshi is one of those dinosaurs that changes sex like in Jurassic park.

ETA: Since you were correcting my spelling. It's spelled Canon.

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Birdo has changed name? That's news to me... I'll have to check the next time I play the Double Dash
No, that was my mistake. My boyfriend corrected me. Her name is Birdo but her Japanese name is Karen. That's what I was thinking of. Sorry. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by damsa:
ETA: Since you were correcting my spelling. It's spelled Canon.

I really need to do better spell-checking! Thanks for the correction.

Cro "Maybe it's spelled 'cannon' in the Mario universe" no

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quote:
Originally posted by Crono:


Cro "Maybe it's spelled 'cannon' in the Mario universe" no

That would make sense considering there are plenty of cannons in the Mario universe! [Big Grin]

I never noticed whether Birdo was a boy or a girl... Actually I didn't even realize who this thread meant by "Birdo" until I read the description-- I do remember the character that threw eggs in the game but I didn't know the name of it. I still have my original Mario Bros. games and my NES by the way! [Razz]

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