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MamaBird
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Originally posted by Cynestria, world's cutest assassin:
And just to address some of the rest of what's being said, it frightens me that people would claim that criticism of the government is un-American. One of the fundamental freedoms that people trumpet whenever they talk about the success of the American system is that we have the right to comment on our disagreements with our government.

I agree with you. However, as a baby boomer I have seen this phenomenon before -- specifically, during the Vietnam War. Tricky Dick was president then, and everyone who disagreed with him was a Communist. It's depressing to see that mindset back in vogue.

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Originally posted by snopes:
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Calling on a radio station to ban a performer for the purpose of punishing her for expressing a certain viewpoint, or for the purpose of preventing her or others from expressing that viewpoint, is not only an act against the speaker but against free speech itself.
No, it isn't. You have a right to say whatever you want - snopes
Having a right to do it doesn't change what it is.
Um, what's that? Freedom of speach?

So are you saying that excercising one's freedom of speeach is an act against freedom of speech? How does that work?

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I think this is more of a case where the performers failed to understand their audience.

When people attend/attended a Midnight Oil, The Call, even a U2 concert, fans usually know a political view will be expressed. We may not agree with everything, but we know that these bands tend to make a point at their concerts.

Dixie Chicks seem to forget they are a pre-formulated pop-country band. Fans go to see pre-formulated pop country.

They are free to express their opinions, but if they choose to use the stage for other reasons, they have to expect that most fans of pop-country will not be interested.

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quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
So are you saying that excercising one's freedom of speeach is an act against freedom of speech? How does that work?

It certainly can be. Anything anyone says is an exercise of freedom of speech. So, can a verbal statement be an attack on freedom of speech? Sure:

"If you don't vote for Bush, I will fire you." an attack on freedom of speech.

"If you don't convert to judaism, I will not marry you." an attack on freedom of religion.

"If you do not have an abortion, I will not pay for you to go to college." an attack on reproductive freedom.

"If you send your child to public school, I will tell everyone you are a bad parent." an attack on child rearing freedom.

These are not illegal, or unconstitutional, but they seek to impede another's ability to exercise freedoms we hold dear. I call them attacks on those freedoms. Depending on the circumstances, they may or may not be justified.

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I suppose it depends on what your definition of "freedom" is. Since I expect "freedom" to mean I will be free of consequences imposed by my government, not my fellow citizen, I don't see those as attacks on freedom at all (depending on the circumstances, for the job one). Your definition of "freedom" seems to include freedom from such consequences. I don't find that definition workable, because such attacks are part of the other person's freedoms. But each to their own.

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Good. Because I'm firing all my pro-war staff tomorrow.

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This is what truly annoys me! Hell I'm no Limp Bizcut fan, but after reading this little article, I now wanna go out and buy 20 copies of their new album when it comes out! From today's Page 6 in the NY Post

March 19, 2003 -- Don't aid these Saddam lovers

AFTER Dixie Chicks lead singer Natalie Maines told a London audience last week that she was "ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas," country stations from Kansas to Pennsylvania immediately dropped the band from their playlists. Maines soon apologized for her "disrespect."

But what about other appeasement-loving celebs?

If you'd prefer not to support the careers of stars who want to stop the liberation of Iraq from mass murderer Saddam Hussein and his rapist henchmen, PAGE SIX offers this quick reference list.

* "Mystic River," which comes out in the fall, boasts the mother of all appeasement casts, with Tim Robbins, Sean Penn and Laurence Fishburn.

* Samuel L. Jackson, another Hollywood drone who signed an anti-liberation letter to the Bush administration recently, is starring in "Basic," which opens next week.

* Susan Sarandon can currently be boycotted on the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries "Children of Dune," which began on Sunday. Another Sarandon project worth skipping is "The Nazi Officer's Wife," out in June.

* Those who oppose sadistic, Stalinist dictatorships won't want to show up at the Estess Arena in Atlantic City on April 25 to see Sheryl Crow's concert. You'll also want to avoid her show the next day at Earthfest in Boston.

* Another petition-signer, Alfre Woodard, is starring in "The Core," coming out next week.

* Fred Durst's band Limp Bizkit has a new album coming out and will be touring the U.S. this summer, but his fans probably don't even know what Iraq is. Meanwhile, alleged girlfriend beater and war opponent Jackson Browne is touring in the only place where he has any fans left - Germany.

* Janeanne Garofalo has high hopes that this summer's offering "Wonderland" will revive her career. But the producers of her last effort, "Manhood," which showed at Sundance in January, are apparently still searching for a distributor.

* The bus stop ads for Danny Glover's "Good Fences" just went up all over town, but there are certainly better ways to spend $10.

* You've probably already stopped watching NBC's "The West Wing" on Wednesdays, thanks to Martin Sheen. Now, you can skip the network's new political series "Mr. Sterling" on Fridays, since it stars the peacenik James Whitmore.

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I don't read the NY Post, but I'm guessing page six is the opinions page. The excerpt contains too much inflammatory language for me to take it seriously. I mean... it uses the word "peacenik" for crying out loud. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by brick:
quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
So are you saying that excercising one's freedom of speeach is an act against freedom of speech? How does that work?

It certainly can be. Anything anyone says is an exercise of freedom of speech. So, can a verbal statement be an attack on freedom of speech? Sure:
Utter nonsense. Ironic that you think one's freedom of spreach should be censored such that they don't speak in away that might be an attack on another's freedom of speach. See dictionary defintion for Oxymoran or Infinite loop.

quote:
Originally posted by brick:
"If you don't vote for Bush, I will fire you." an attack on freedom of speech.

Voting is not freedom of speach, it's voting rights covered under other laws starting with the 15th amendment. This would also be illegal in some states based on employment laws.

quote:
Originally posted by brick:
"If you don't convert to judaism, I will not marry you." an attack on freedom of religion.

Not at all, it's a matter of one person standing by their religion. Sorry I won't marry someone who isn't a Jew, it's a matter of principles. The other person has every right to worship as they like. Marriage is neither right nor privlege.

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Originally posted by brick:
"If you do not have an abortion, I will not pay for you to go to college." an attack on reproductive freedom.

Strike three. The pregnant person still has every right to do what they want with their pregnancy. They do not have a right to have their college paid for.

quote:
Originally posted by brick:
"If you send your child to public school, I will tell everyone you are a bad parent." an attack on child rearing freedom.

Go ahead, what the hell do you know about my parenting. You'll look like a fool to the knowlegable, but you might be able to convince a fool. Who cares? Not I.

There is even more irony in that you seem to think people have the right to marry someone even if the other person has religious convictions against it; or have their college paid for without input or regard to the opinons of the payee.

Beach...so who's college are you paying for unconditionally...Life!

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quote:
Originally posted by lola:
This is what truly annoys me! Hell I'm no Limp Bizcut fan, but after reading this little article, I now wanna go out and buy 20 copies of their new album when it comes out! From today's Page 6 in the NY Post

March 19, 2003 -- Don't aid these Saddam lovers

AFTER Dixie Chicks lead singer Natalie Maines told a London audience last week that she was "ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas," country stations from Kansas to Pennsylvania immediately dropped the band from their playlists. Maines soon apologized for her "disrespect."

But what about other appeasement-loving celebs?

If you'd prefer not to support the careers of stars who want to stop the liberation of Iraq from mass murderer Saddam Hussein and his rapist henchmen, PAGE SIX offers this quick reference list.

* "Mystic River," which comes out in the fall, boasts the mother of all appeasement casts, with Tim Robbins, Sean Penn and Laurence Fishburn.

* Samuel L. Jackson, another Hollywood drone who signed an anti-liberation letter to the Bush administration recently, is starring in "Basic," which opens next week.

* Susan Sarandon can currently be boycotted on the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries "Children of Dune," which began on Sunday. Another Sarandon project worth skipping is "The Nazi Officer's Wife," out in June.

* Those who oppose sadistic, Stalinist dictatorships won't want to show up at the Estess Arena in Atlantic City on April 25 to see Sheryl Crow's concert. You'll also want to avoid her show the next day at Earthfest in Boston.

* Another petition-signer, Alfre Woodard, is starring in "The Core," coming out next week.

* Fred Durst's band Limp Bizkit has a new album coming out and will be touring the U.S. this summer, but his fans probably don't even know what Iraq is. Meanwhile, alleged girlfriend beater and war opponent Jackson Browne is touring in the only place where he has any fans left - Germany.

* Janeanne Garofalo has high hopes that this summer's offering "Wonderland" will revive her career. But the producers of her last effort, "Manhood," which showed at Sundance in January, are apparently still searching for a distributor.

* The bus stop ads for Danny Glover's "Good Fences" just went up all over town, but there are certainly better ways to spend $10.

* You've probably already stopped watching NBC's "The West Wing" on Wednesdays, thanks to Martin Sheen. Now, you can skip the network's new political series "Mr. Sterling" on Fridays, since it stars the peacenik James Whitmore.

How about boycotting the NY Post? This is the beginning of the return of the Blacklist...Michael Moriarty, Fred Dalton Thompson, Andy Garcia, Bruce Willis can express whichever views they want, but it won't keep me from watching their movies/shows...somehow, I'm able to separate their political views from their performances...
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quote:
Originally posted by lola:
This is what truly annoys me! Hell I'm no Limp Bizcut fan, but after reading this little article, I now wanna go out and buy 20 copies of their new album when it comes out! From today's Page 6 in the NY Post

The NY Post. Did I miss the meeting where it was decided that people intelligent enough to read would actually pay attention to anything said in the Post? Isn't this the paper whose typical headline goes something like "Porn Mom Nabbed In Tot Slash"*? Isn't this the paper that people hide behind copies of Hustler on the subway because they're too embarrassed to be seen reading it in public? Isn't the reason given for all the tickertape parades in NYC that it gives people an excuse to shred the Post?

buf 'before you know it, you'll be telling me that the Weekly World News publishes doctored photos [Big Grin] ' ungla

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Regarding the photo a few posts up... is that Jerry Haleva?

[Yes, I know it's probably a lousy fake; it'd be funnier if it was Jerry.]

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quote:
Originally posted by Doc Mercury:
(You know, it's not like she said they were bigger than Jesus...)

I know the reference, but that just made of a potential "Onion"-ish headline.

Yao Ming's Blasphemy SHOCK: "I'm taller than Jesus!"

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Page 6 is the gossip page in the New York Post. Its a bit of a guilty pleasure for me [Embarrassed] , the Post has a very good sports writers and usually the two reasons that I look at the post on line is for Page 6 and for the sports pages. Its such a right wing newspaper and I usually get my non-celeberty and sports news from other newspapers such as the NY Times or NY Newsday on line.

I have one question didn't both Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels write pro war anti-Arab songs? And were they ever called to task for the writing such lyrics?

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quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
Utter nonsense. Ironic that you think one's freedom of spreach should be censored such that they don't speak in away that might be an attack on another's freedom of speach. See dictionary defintion for Oxymoran or Infinite loop.

I don't think anyone should be censored, other than self-censored. I merely register my disapproval for the practice of acting in an attempt to silence others without sufficient provocation.

quote:
Originally posted by brick:
Voting is not freedom of speach, it's voting rights covered under other laws starting with the 15th amendment. This would also be illegal in some states based on employment laws.

I'm talking about what is right or wrong, not legal or illegal, or constitutional or unconstitutional. Even in states where the voting statement could be made legally, I would probably disapprove of it.

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Originally posted by brick:
"If you don't convert to judaism, I will not marry you." an attack on freedom of religion.

quote:
Originally posted by Beachlife:
Not at all, it's a matter of one person standing by their religion. Sorry I won't marry someone who isn't a Jew, it's a matter of principles. The other person has every right to worship as they like. Marriage is neither right nor privlege.



This is the point upon which I think I am being least clearly understood. I realize that the statement does not deprive anyone of any religious rights. What I seek to emphasize is that "freedom of speech (or religion)" is not synonomous with "constitutional right to practice free speech (or religion)". The latter is a right that individuals have to be free from government intrusion, granted by the constitution. The former is the broader idea that open discourse (and choice of worship) are fundamental ideals of American life, and on general principles one should not attempt to intentionally interfere with another's exercise of those freedoms lightly, although they have every legal "right" to do so.

Threatening a negative consequence (I won't marry you) if the listener does not change religions is an attempt to interfere with the listener's choice of worship. It may be a justifiable interference, but it is an interference nonetheless. I call this interference with freedom of religion, but the name given to it is just a name.

The significant thing to me is the recognition that such action is serious, and good reason should exist if one is to take it.

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Originally posted by brick:
"If you do not have an abortion, I will not pay for you to go to college." an attack on reproductive freedom.

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Originally posted by Beachlife:
Strike three. The pregnant person still has every right to do what they want with their pregnancy. They do not have a right to have their college paid for.

See above.

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Originally posted by brick:
"If you send your child to public school, I will tell everyone you are a bad parent." an attack on child rearing freedom.

quote:
Originally posted by Beachlife:
Go ahead, what the hell do you know about my parenting. You'll look like a fool to the knowlegable, but you might be able to convince a fool. Who cares? Not I.

Yes, the statement is inane, and that's reason enough it shouldn't be made. But it also shouldn't be made on principle, without good reason.

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Originally posted by Beachlife:
There is even more irony in that you seem to think people have the right to marry someone even if the other person has religious convictions against it; or have their college paid for without input or regard to the opinons of the payee.

I hope I've cleared that up. It's not a question of rights. It's a question of not cavalierly attempting to hinder the expression of certain freedoms by other Americans. The four statements I submitted are examples of exercises of freedom of speech that I might or might not approve of, depending on external circumstances, most importantly the reasons the speaker has for making them.
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quote:
Originally posted by lola:
I have one question didn't both Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels write pro war anti-Arab songs? And were they ever called to task for the writing such lyrics?

Not sure about them but I remember in the late 70's when the Cure was, even though most people seemed to misunderstand the song.

hoi 'killing an arab' toider

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quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
I used to be a big Boston fan. After borrowing their last CD from a friend and listening to it I hated it. I hated the women's voice that was on it and then I read the back cover, some dedication to PETA. I gave it back to my friend and refused to buy it. Was I not in my rights? Should I have to listen to their music even if I think their political view makes them into idiots?

Beach...I live in denial, Boston only has three CDs in my little world...Life!

If you haven't heard the "Walk On" suite or "Surrender", obtain the Walk On CD, play/record those two songs, and pretend it's an EP that got packaged by some loonies.

buf 'hard to believe that he spends seven years to make a couple of good songs and 40 more minutes of dreck' ungla

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
I used to be a big Boston fan. After borrowing their last CD from a friend and listening to it I hated it. I hated the women's voice that was on it and then I read the back cover, some dedication to PETA. I gave it back to my friend and refused to buy it. Was I not in my rights? Should I have to listen to their music even if I think their political view makes them into idiots?

Beach...I live in denial, Boston only has three CDs in my little world...Life!

If you haven't heard the "Walk On" suite or "Surrender", obtain the Walk On CD, play/record those two songs, and pretend it's an EP that got packaged by some loonies.

buf 'hard to believe that he spends seven years to make a couple of good songs and 40 more minutes of dreck' ungla

Thanks for the advice. I admit I don't think I made it more than three tracks into the CD. I've ask my buddy for another chance and I'll take your advice.

Beach...when good bands go bad...Life!

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I won't be buying another dixie chicks cd and it's solely because of her remarks. I also do not go to movies in which actors who have voiced their opinions against President Bush act. I will also not support any actor/singer who in the future voices political or ethical views with which I absolutely disagree.
Call me stupid all day if you want to, but I won't be putting money into the pockets of those who hold views I find offensive or I simply disagree with.

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quote:
Originally posted by Just Desserts:
I won't be buying another dixie chicks cd and it's solely because of her remarks. I also do not go to movies in which actors who have voiced their opinions against President Bush act. I will also not support any actor/singer who in the future voices political or ethical views with which I absolutely disagree.

You know, that is your right, but I suspect that in a few years time you'll be unable to listen to any music, see any movies or watch any TV. And you should keep track of what authors say, because you certainly won't want to read any novels written by people you disagreee with.

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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
I won't be buying another dixie chicks cd and it's solely because of her remarks. I also do not go to movies in which actors who have voiced their opinions against President Bush act. I will also not support any actor/singer who in the future voices political or ethical views with which I absolutely disagree.

You know, that is your right, but I suspect that in a few years time you'll be unable to listen to any music, see any movies or watch any TV. And you should keep track of what authors say, because you certainly won't want to read any novels written by people you disagreee with.

Pogue

Nah. It's absolutely at my discretion so I highly doubt that will come to pass.

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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
Nah. It's absolutely at my discretion so I highly doubt that will come to pass.

Some sit with me, in the "Reserved for Hypocrites" section. But hurry, it's getting crowded!

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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
Nah. It's absolutely at my discretion so I highly doubt that will come to pass.

Some sit with me, in the "Reserved for Hypocrites" section. But hurry, it's getting crowded!

ham "who, man?" bubba

whatever

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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
I won't be buying another dixie chicks cd and it's solely because of her remarks. I also do not go to movies in which actors who have voiced their opinions against President Bush act. I will also not support any actor/singer who in the future voices political or ethical views with which I absolutely disagree.
Call me stupid all day if you want to, but I won't be putting money into the pockets of those who hold views I find offensive or I simply disagree with.

So how about waitresses, store clerks, gas station attendants, etc.? You put money into the pockets of an awful lot of people everyday, a large percentage of whom must disagree with you on some subject of importance or another. Do you expect all of your friends and family to agree with you on all major issues? I can at least see the point of boycotting someone who has said something you find extreemly offensive, but simply disagree with? Now that sounds extreem to me.
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Of course, waitresses, store clerks, etc. don't tend to have a soapbox that gives their views a huge audience. You can respond on the same level just by talking to them. Dealing with someone wtih celebrity's megaphone arguably requires more vigorous opposition to be effective.

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Jaime Vargas Sanchez
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quote:
Originally posted by Brown (primer) Recluse:
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Originally posted by PatYoung:
1. So all those who criticized President Clinton were not being supportive of America in a general sense?

There's a big difference between criticising a zipper problem and foreign policy/national security issues.

Yes. The difference being that foreign policy/national security issues, being the ones which are important, are the ones which must be scrutinized, studied, and if you're so inclined, criticised.

Jaime

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Illuminati-atrix
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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
I won't be buying another dixie chicks cd and it's solely because of her remarks. I also do not go to movies in which actors who have voiced their opinions against President Bush act. I will also not support any actor/singer who in the future voices political or ethical views with which I absolutely disagree.
Call me stupid all day if you want to, but I won't be putting money into the pockets of those who hold views I find offensive or I simply disagree with.

Funny, I thought that a person (let's use me as an example) is supposed to like a musician or actor because I like their music or their movies, not because their political views conincide with mine. I.E. I love Schwarzenegger movies, he's a staunch Republican...guess that means I shouldn't like him or see his movies? Hell no, Arnie has his views and I have mine and the two shall not meet. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the petty, vindictive foolishness I have heard coming out of people's mouths since the Dixie Chicks thing happened. Did they give money to the enemy? No. Did they grab guns and help the enemy? No. All they did was express an opinion, you may not agree with it but for people to destroy cds and tapes over it and ban them from being on the radio? Sorry that is stupid and it smacks of nationalism. I love this country but I don't want my future children to grow up in a society where freely expressing their views of the government will get them black listed in their profession or worse. After the problem of Saddam having weapons he shouldn't isn't this the one of the other major things we complain about when it comes to his regime?
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Cynestria
It Came Upon a Midnight Clearance


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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
whatever

That is *deep*. [Roll Eyes]
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Erasmus Brown
The Red and the Green Stamps


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Originally posted by lola:
Page 6 is the gossip page in the New York Post. Its a bit of a guilty pleasure for me [Embarrassed] , the Post has a very good sports writers and usually the two reasons that I look at the post on line is for Page 6 and for the sports pages.

Actually, if the NY Post mentions a potential trade for the NY Yankees, that's a guarantee that it will NEVER happen...
[fish]

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Johnny Slick
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Originally posted by hoitoider:
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Originally posted by lola:
I have one question didn't both Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels write pro war anti-Arab songs? And were they ever called to task for the writing such lyrics?

Not sure about them but I remember in the late 70's when the Cure was, even though most people seemed to misunderstand the song.

hoi 'killing an arab' toider

Camus' "The Stranger" was anti-Arab? I'll have to read that book over again...

ETA: Just Desserts, congratulations. You have just given yourself the freedom to listen to crap. I hope that makes you feel happy.

John "I Bet Britney Spears won't speak out against Iraq" Craven

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Astra
The "Was on Sale" Song


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Toby Keith wrote "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue (The Angry American)." While it was a very angry song in reaction to 9/11, it wasn't what I would call "anti-Arab." There is nothing within the song connecting it to Arabs and I thought it was pretty clear that the song was lashing out at the terrorists.
See the lyrics here

As for Charlie Daniels, I'm not sure.

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After All
The First USA Noel


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Originally posted by blt:
Do you expect all of your friends and family to agree with you on all major issues?

No I do not. Presumably, I CARE about my friends and family, unlike actors or singers who are people I have never even met and don't give two shakes about. If they offend me, I just ignore them there on out without supporting them. I hope that clears things up.

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After All
The First USA Noel


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Originally posted by Cynestria, world's cutest assassin:
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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
whatever

That is *deep*. [Roll Eyes]
and you are "funny"

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After All
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Originally posted by Tommygungirl, Queen of the Damned:
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Originally posted by Just Desserts:
I won't be buying another dixie chicks cd and it's solely because of her remarks. I also do not go to movies in which actors who have voiced their opinions against President Bush act. I will also not support any actor/singer who in the future voices political or ethical views with which I absolutely disagree.
Call me stupid all day if you want to, but I won't be putting money into the pockets of those who hold views I find offensive or I simply disagree with.

Funny, I thought that a person (let's use me as an example) is supposed to like a musician or actor because I like their music or their movies, not because their political views conincide with mine. I.E. I love Schwarzenegger movies, he's a staunch Republican...guess that means I shouldn't like him or see his movies? Hell no, Arnie has his views and I have mine and the two shall not meet. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the petty, vindictive foolishness I have heard coming out of people's mouths since the Dixie Chicks thing happened. Did they give money to the enemy? No. Did they grab guns and help the enemy? No. All they did was express an opinion, you may not agree with it but for people to destroy cds and tapes over it and ban them from being on the radio? Sorry that is stupid and it smacks of nationalism. I love this country but I don't want my future children to grow up in a society where freely expressing their views of the government will get them black listed in their profession or worse. After the problem of Saddam having weapons he shouldn't isn't this the one of the other major things we complain about when it comes to his regime?
I said I won't buy another CD of theirs, I never said I was going to burn or smash anything. That would require me caring more about the dixie chicks than I do. You do things your way, I'll do them mine. [Roll Eyes]

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