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First off, for the Harry Potter fans like me, I do not know if this is true. I heard this on a fan site with a bunch of rumors for the 7th book. This is why I am posting this to see if anybody else has heard this and to see what you think.
For the people who are going to post a message saying how they think that Harry Potter should die, you are all jerks ahead of time.
If I did or said anything wrong, I am sorry this is my first post.
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I don't think you are going to get any replies calling you a jerk or saying Harry Potter should die. We leave that crap to the trolls.
I don't think anyone except the author knows what will happen in the 7th book yet... and she may not even have it all decided, since she isn't done writing the 5th one yet.
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Dear Ticrazyguy: No, you haven't done anything wrong (except assume that we'd be rude to you, or automatically insult Harry Potter). It's a good, relevant post.
I haven't heard anything that sounds like it comes from Rowling. A lot of fans have theorized about the ending, but anyone can post whatever they dream. For myself, I've noticed J.K. Rowling plays her cards pretty close to her chest, and I doubt she'd release ANY plot information at this stage.
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Sorry about the jerks thing. I meant it in a silly/cutesy way and not truly meant to offend.
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Actually, what I heard is that after the 7 books are done, Rowling is going to create a TV series about an adult Harry Potter who comes back to Hogwarts to teach young underachieving wizards. The TV series is going to be called "Welcome Back, Potter"
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My own opinion is killing off Harry would be a bad move commercially as well as being an unfortunate artistic touch. Harry Potter isn't Hamlet - it's an adventure story. Killing the protagonist would defeat the lightness of touch that the storyline has shown so far (even though the action has become much more intense in the later books). Somehow the fun parts of the books would seem much less so if you knew Harry would die, and sales after the final volume would suffer.
And I agree, Rowling seems to be very fond of Harry.
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Now killing off Dumbledore, that I could see...
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Rowling has already written the final chapter of Book 7, so she knows how she wants everything to turn out.
Voldemort: "Harry, I *am* your father!"
Harry: "Nooooooo!"
ahem, wrong franchise, anyway.
Rowling's also said that the next three books will be shorter than Goblet of Fire. The next book (possibly called HP and the Order of the Phoenix) will be out, oh, next Tuesday sometime. Possibly even in 2002.
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One of the current rumors is that Lily Potter was somehow connected to Voldemort, but so far there isn't much evidence pointing that way. Interesting twist, if it does happen to be true.
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WOW! All of those replys in around an hours time...I must have struck a nerve.
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Or just found a bunch of people who like to talk
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The only thing I've heard about future books is something major with Potter's mom in the fifth or sixth one. And Harry is supposed to get a girlfriend sometime soon, since his crush on what's her face didn't really work out.
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I've assumed he's going to inherit the school from Dumbledore, as he'll be the next most powerful wizard in the world by then.
Still, with the nice dark streak that has been shown so far, maybe he will die. I don't think Rowling has to worry too much about sales of the books after number 7 is out, as she's already one of the richest women in Britain. She can just start another series. And, of course, being dead hasn't slowed Voldemort down too much, has it?
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Absolutely no cite, but I’m sure I read somewhere that a fan asked Rowling this, and she said categorically that Harry will not die at the end. I know that she’s already written the last chapter in the whole series so she won’t change her mind. Remember when it was hinted that a major character would die in Goblet of Fire, and everyone thought it would be Ron, and it turned out to be Cedric. So it’s all speculation really.
quote:In a revealing interview for the BBC, JK Rowling has said that she has already written the last chapter of the final Harry Potter book, and that some of the boy wizard's adventures to come will make for distressing reading.
The billionaire author reveals that she has already decided the fate of all the major characters, and hints that some could be killed off. ...
Describing the chapter, she says, "this really wraps everything, it's the epilogue and I basically say what happens to everyone after they leave school, those who survive - because there are deaths, more deaths coming...There's at least one death that's going to be horrible to write."
Of course she doesn't say which characters might be killed at this point, so I don't know if this is the source of the rumours.
I didn't see the interview, but it was apparently broadcast by the BBC on Friday December 28, 2001.
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I seem to remember (my memory - that great authoritative source!) seeing an interview with Rowling where she said that, yes, the stories will get darker as the series continues, and that yes, people in "Potter-world" will die. My memory is saying "go on, I'm sure she said "people readers will know", but actually I can't be sure whether I heard that or whether I've just bolted it on).
However, I fear more for the safety of Hermione and Ron than for Harry himself...
Edit: thanks Richard, that's a better source for what i was trying to say than "my brain says so"!
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Hey, Embra! Sounds like you know my friend IRIS (I Read It Somewhere).
Seems like she always has all the answers.
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Hermione and Ron have a romance. Ron dies - probably trying to defend Hermione as he shows a strong tendency to do. Hermione is heartbroken and ends up getting into some dark magic trying to avenge his death. Harry ends up having to fight/redeem her.
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This notion -- "I heard so-and-so is going to die in the next book/movie!" -- is one that pops up all the time; it's a kind of moveable UL.
Those who have read the Travis McGee series by John D. MacDonald may be aware that for years there has been a rumor floating around that there is a "lost" McGee novel in existence, one in which McGee dies at the end. (I bet Dan the Seeker can confirm this.) It's supposed to be called "A Black Border for McGee," or something like that. (All the McGee books have a color in the title.) MacDonald died many years ago (1985 or so) and his heirs and other interested parties have consistently denied the rumor. But some fans have kept the rumor alive, excited by the prospect of a 22nd McGee story.
(Of course, since the McGee stories are always told in the first person, I find it difficult to see how such a story could work!)
I guess this is all a bit OT, but I thought this was just another instance of this sort of rumor.
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quote:Originally posted by You're the DoubleD in Disguise: Those who have read the Travis McGee series by John D. MacDonald may be aware that for years there has been a rumor floating around that there is a "lost" McGee novel in existence, one in which McGee dies at the end.
I may be mistaken, but I think John D. created this myth himself, saying that he had written A Black Border for McGee to keep his publisher in line and, if ever truly and well ticked off, would publish it and end the series. It was a joke, but evidently he repeated the tale more than once and was believed.
Someone did a fan fiction version of the novel, I hear. I don't read fan fiction myself, and have no idea where to find it....
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Well, Rowling has said a main character will die in the next few novels, and it will be painful for her to write about, but I seriously doubt it's Harry. "Nevill Longbottom and the dark lord's heir" just doesn't have much of a ring to it. I can definetly see Dumbledore dieing in an Obie Wan kind of way. Dickon,"Harry, use the-er-never mind" Sowerby
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quote:Originally posted by Brads Rush in from Georgia: I may be mistaken, but I think John D. created this myth himself, saying that he had written A Black Border for McGee to keep his publisher in line and, if ever truly and well ticked off, would publish it and end the series. It was a joke, but evidently he repeated the tale more than once and was believed.
Someone did a fan fiction version of the novel, I hear. I don't read fan fiction myself, and have no idea where to find it....
Hey, thanks for the info, BfG! You know, you may well be right about that. I'm not usually interested in fanfic, but I would be curious about how someone would manage a novel told by the protagonist, when the protagonist dies ...
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I believe the interview remark that spawned all this went something along these lines: Interviewer: What's going to happen to Harry after the seventh book? Rowling: What makes you so sure he's going to live past it?
Anyway, here's a little ramble on my thoughts about the upcoming character deaths, quoted from something I said on another message board:
I firmly believe she's just hyping. Think about Book 4: She said that an important and well-known character was going to die, and Cedric had absolutely no personality until that book. But we all read it with double the eagerness, waiting to see who would bite the big one, didn't we? It's all marketing. She won't kill Harry because then the fans will hate her and the entire franchise will slowly collapse, killing her career. Maybe she's levelheaded enough to realize that that's an okay thing because nobody on the planet needs as much money as she's going to have by then, but she's got a money-hungry marketing department breathing down her neck.
I know this is going to sound a little harsh, but I don't trust her artistic integrity and detachment from her work enough to see her killing off anyone more loved and integral than, say, Neville Longbottom, whose only saving grace is his cult following. And if you had the patience to read this far, give yourself a cookie because now you get a more direct answer: If anybody major dies, it's going to be Dumbledore, one of the other teachers, or an evil-beyond-all-reason Draco.
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I think Ron is going to need some redeeming or killing. The jealousy is getting potent. I hope his "turn to the dark side" isn't as cheesy as star wars
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quote:Originally posted by Astra the Hound DAWG: I just skimmed a couple of the fanfics posted in the thread on -what else?- fan fiction... Hermione and Malfoy?!?!
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quote:Hey, thanks for the info, BfG! You know, you may well be right about that. I'm not usually interested in fanfic, but I would be curious about how someone would manage a novel told by the protagonist, when the protagonist dies ...
Well, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but try James M. Cain's Double Indemnity . That's about as close as you'll get without worrying about the mechanics of a dead person using a pen or how to make the transition from a live person to his ghost smoothly.
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quote:Originally posted by Tabbyclaw: ...I know this is going to sound a little harsh, but I don't trust her artistic integrity and detachment from her work enough to see her killing off anyone more loved and integral than, say, Neville Longbottom, whose only saving grace is his cult following....
I'm wondering why you think NOT killing Harry would be a loss of artistic integrity. In my opinion, such a tragic ending would be a rather jarring switch from the original tone of the series - rather like adding a helping of steamed broccoli to a chocolate cake. Not that it can't be tasty and good for you; just that the cake is not the right place.
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My own bets on future developments:
* Clearly Harry and Hermoine will become an Item. This could not be more obviously foreshadowed.
* Yes, more characters will die. Not Harry, Ron or Hermoine, as they are clearly designed as the ongoing heros of the piece. Dumbledore will not die, or at least not soon. Characters that WILL die over the next three books include Sirius Black, Severus Snape, and Rubeus Hagrid, all for various plot reasons. I suspect that a member of the Weasley clan will also die, probably Percy or Mom.
* Harry will become the Heir of Dumbledore, taking over Hogwarts at the end of the series.
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I don't think Draco Malfoy would die, we need some little villanious person to distract us until the big Voldemort finale. I have heard that Dumbledore turns out to be an ally of Voldmort, or an equally evil rival, or something like that, which strangely I can see happening. I do want to know who the next Dark Arts teacher will be, maybe the one from the last one. Oh and wouldn't it be sad if Dobby died? Oh well, the point of reading a series is to find out in the end, so lets just leave it at that until the series ends, and forget all the speculation. However, if she doesn't come out with the new book soon...
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There IS something going on with Snape. I am just really curious to find out what it really is.
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quote:Originally posted by Sparverius, Dragon of Eden:
quote:Originally posted by Tabbyclaw: ...I know this is going to sound a little harsh, but I don't trust her artistic integrity and detachment from her work enough to see her killing off anyone more loved and integral than, say, Neville Longbottom, whose only saving grace is his cult following....
I'm wondering why you think NOT killing Harry would be a loss of artistic integrity. In my opinion, such a tragic ending would be a rather jarring switch from the original tone of the series - rather like adding a helping of steamed broccoli to a chocolate cake. Not that it can't be tasty and good for you; just that the cake is not the right place.
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The HP series has always reminded me of the Lion, Witch and Wardrobe series. CS Lewis manages to kill Lucy, Peter, Edmund and Susan in the final book, but keep them alive in the alternate world at the same time. If Rowlings kills Harry she won't keep him dead for long, after all he is somewhat 'god-like' as is arch-nemesis is, and Voldemort managed to survive death as well.
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