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A company has defended its decision to sack one of its staff by text message, claiming it was keeping in touch with youth culture.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060804/od_afp/britaintelecomjobs_060804153828

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Nice. I got broken up with via a message on my dorm room door's dry erase board once, but this would be even worse.

When I saw the title, my first thought was "You are sucked." That didn't seem very work appropriate!

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That's... um... wow...

I think if I got fired by text message, I would challenge it. Not to keep my job, because I wouldn't want to work with/for schmucks who think it's acceptable to do the equivalent of breaking up with someone via fax... but because I think something like losing your job should require some amount of physical contact, your boss looking you in the eye and defending their reasons should they be challenged.

What to they expect? Send a text message like that and ignore when the ex-employee responds back "WTF??"

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Accident Group employees won "protective awards" in a 2003 Tribunal decision when they were informed by text that their wages would not be paid.

Interesting that Blue Banana, the company in the OP, chooses this moment to reveal its "yoof" credentials: discrimination in employment on the basis of age will become unlawful here as of 1 October, and Tribunals will be able to use a company's behaviour prior to that date as evidence. The new legislation doesn't just refer to "old" people: all age groups are protected (I know, I know, I'm waiting "excitedly" for the test cases as well. My excuse is it's my job...)

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The only thing that makes it seem not as evil is that the company claims that they tried to call her five or six times and she never answered and so they used the text message as a last resort. Their excuse of keeping in touch with youth culture is the biggest bunch of baloney that I've heard today.

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Richard W
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Even so, you'd have thought they could wait until she came in the next day. (Unless she'd had so many unexplained absences that they didn't think she'd turn up). Sacking her by phone while she's off sick seems just as bad.
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Why was it so imperative that they fire her on that day? Why not wait until the next day, when she comes to work?

ETA- Spanked by Richard...

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quote:
Originally posted by Lonely Mountain:
The only thing that makes it seem not as evil is that the company claims that they tried to call her five or six times and she never answered and so they used the text message as a last resort. Their excuse of keeping in touch with youth culture is the biggest bunch of baloney that I've heard today.

What would be wrong with texting her to call in?

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Amazing. I wonder if you could also show up to work falling-down drunk and claim you were just doing what all the young people are doing these days. "Pass the alcopops! Go youth culture!"

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quote:
Originally posted by TurquoiseGirl:
quote:
Originally posted by Lonely Mountain:
The only thing that makes it seem not as evil is that the company claims that they tried to call her five or six times and she never answered and so they used the text message as a last resort. Their excuse of keeping in touch with youth culture is the biggest bunch of baloney that I've heard today.

What would be wrong with texting her to call in?
Also, while I don't personally suffer from migraines, from what I understand from those who do, the last thing someone is doing is sitting around answering their phone. If the young woman was legitimately off due to a migraine then surely she was treating it the way most do? Which would likely mean the phone was turned off.

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My wife can simpathize with this as she was fired over the phone. I talked about this in the rantadote section back in June, They tried to call her on her day off, I took the message the first time they called. The connecting with the youth of today is just a ridiculious statement. Any fireing not done in person is a cowerdly act. She's better off not working there. I put them in the same boat as my wifes former employer, a bunch of cowards.

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quote:
Originally posted by Griffin 2020:
Why was it so imperative that they fire her on that day? Why not wait until the next day, when she comes to work?

ETA- Spanked by Richard...

I was once fired on the last day of a six month probationary period. In fact, They not only waited until the last day, they waited until about 15 minutes before I was scheduled to go home. If they had waited one more day, two things would have happened. (A) I would have become a member of a union that would act on my behalf. (B) They would have been required to provide a reason for firing me -- something they adamantly refused to do. Perhaps this situation is similar -- they wanted to fire her before she passed some landmark that would have been inconvenient for them in some way.
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quote:
Originally posted by Christie:
Also, while I don't personally suffer from migraines, from what I understand from those who do, the last thing someone is doing is sitting around answering their phone. If the young woman was legitimately off due to a migraine then surely she was treating it the way most do? Which would likely mean the phone was turned off.

I've talked about J's migraines.
We turn off the ringer,and turn on the answering machine, which is far away from the bedroom where she usually rests from her migraines. Works pretty good.

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My migraines are much less severe than J's, and I certainly wouldn't be answering the phone. Conversation of any type can be very difficult with a migraine, for a number of reasons (sensitivity to sound, nausea, mental confusion). Trying to talk on the phone could only be worse.

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quote:
Originally posted by MaxKaladin:
quote:
Originally posted by Griffin 2020:
Why was it so imperative that they fire her on that day? Why not wait until the next day, when she comes to work?

ETA- Spanked by Richard...

I was once fired on the last day of a six month probationary period. In fact, They not only waited until the last day, they waited until about 15 minutes before I was scheduled to go home. If they had waited one more day, two things would have happened. (A) I would have become a member of a union that would act on my behalf. (B) They would have been required to provide a reason for firing me -- something they adamantly refused to do. Perhaps this situation is similar -- they wanted to fire her before she passed some landmark that would have been inconvenient for them in some way.
In fairness, I've heard that it's considered a good move to fire someone at the end of their shift. I'm not exactly sure why that is - maybe by the end of the day some people just want to go home and will be more accepting of getting canned - but that's what I've heard.

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quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Slick:
In fairness, I've heard that it's considered a good move to fire someone at the end of their shift. I'm not exactly sure why that is - maybe by the end of the day some people just want to go home and will be more accepting of getting canned - but that's what I've heard.

I've heard that, too, and the explanation I've heard is that you don't want the remaining workers to talk about the firing all day.

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I just wanted to comment that last Friday, I saw them fire an employee by text message on the USA television show "Psych." It reminded me of this thread, so I thought I would post, even tho the comments on this topic seem to have come to an end.

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PI, I saw that, too!

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