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Breedle
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This probably doen't sound like a big deal, but it's finals week and I am already a little frustrated as it is.

A couple of freshman guys who live on my floor came to my door wanting to borrow my pot (as in cooking container, not drugs) so I let them use it.

It was a brand new pot, and as soon as I said they could borrow it I knew I probably shouldn't have. When they brought it back it was clean, which surprised me, but then I looked inside. They must have used a fork to stir what they were cooking, and the non-stick covering on the pan is all scratched up really badly. I guess their parents never taught them that they are supposed to use wooden spoons when stiring this kind of pan [Mad]

Although it's not that big of a deal in the long run, I just needed to get it off my chest.

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I never lent my pots (or my pot, for that matter) to anyone for precisely this reason. I'm sorry that happened to you. Given that they were freshman boys, I'm sure it was the result of ignorance, not malice or negligence. The freshman boys I lived with in college mostly couldn't even boil water. It's sad, really.

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This is why I don't loan things to people. I've had too many bad experiences with people ruining my property. On the rare occasion I let someone borrow something of mine, I make sure I'm there to watch them use it and get it back before it leaves my sight. But, as a general rule, I no longer loan anything to anyone.

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Even people who cook regularly sometimes forget about how to take care of non-stick cookware. I grew up with glass and stainless steel cookware, and I still don't use much in the way of non-stick. Many times I've caught myself sticking a metal whisk into my little non-stick saucepan because I'm just not used to thinking of it.

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My take on the situation (which has happened to me more than once)... "At least they're cooking instead of getting a McMeal."

My two coping mechanisms... first, keep the ruined pot. Next time they want to borrow a pot, loan them that one.

Second method only works with family, spouses, and very good friends -- hand them the store receipt for the replacement. Now that he knows how much a good non-stick pan costs, hubby has become much gentler with them.

He's also been trained in the fine art of why we don't wash my seasoned cast iron in the dishwasher. This was accomplished by not only making him pay for a new one (those things are expensive!) but making him season the new one. Now he's afraid of it lol.

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The fact that these guys can't cook is sad, too. It's not hard. It just takes the tiniest bit of interest. It's a little disheartening when people can get an A in calculus (not saying these guys necessarily will) but can't make pasta.

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Hmm...although I don't do a whole lot of cooking, even if I did I wouldn't have thought of this, as at home we don't have any non-stick pans (or at least I've never used them). I also rarely use metal stirring implements, so I actually probably wouldn't have messed up this way. But it would have been out of luck more than anything else.
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quote:
Originally posted by Breedle:
This probably doen't sound like a big deal, but it's finals week and I am already a little frustrated as it is.

A couple of freshman guys who live on my floor came to my door wanting to borrow my pot (as in cooking container, not drugs) so I let them use it.

It was a brand new pot, and as soon as I said they could borrow it I knew I probably shouldn't have. When they brought it back it was clean, which surprised me, but then I looked inside. They must have used a fork to stir what they were cooking, and the non-stick covering on the pan is all scratched up really badly. I guess their parents never taught them that they are supposed to use wooden spoons when stiring this kind of pan [Mad]

Although it's not that big of a deal in the long run, I just needed to get it off my chest.

Did you tell them in advanced that the pan was non-stick and therefore required a wooden or plastic spoon?

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Way back when non-stick pans were first becoming popular, my mother came home from work to find that the friend who was staying with her for a couple of days had very carefully "scrubbed all that horrid black stuff" off her brand new Teflon frying pan before using it to cook herself breakfast. She'd had to use steel wool and a metal scraper because it was burnt on so hard.

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The level of rampant undomesticated idiocy running riot in my halls of residence was eye-opening. Filthy little trolls who had obviously never been taught to do a thing for themselves and as a result the kitchen, bathroom and toilets were soon a disgrace.

I took refuge in female kind and spent my entire year hiding on the upper floors with those paragons of cleanliness and organisation - women. I'm not saying that women are somehow better at these things in general, or that they themselves are not capable of creating horror stories of their own, but those little feckers downstairs created a dorm where I feared to tread [lol]

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I think you need to cut them a bit of slack. Unless the pot still had a "Teflon/NonStick" label on it, it can be hard to tell a non-stick pot from a normal one. And round here at least although non-stick coatings are common on frypans, they are very uncommon on saucepans (I assume what you call "a pot" is what we call a saucepan.) And at least they knew how to cook something in it. When our microwave was broken recently, my son (20) exclaimed "But we can't reheat anything!" Even after I explained to him how to reheat food in a saucepan, he decided it was just too hard and did without.
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quote:
Originally posted by Breedle:
I guess their parents never taught them that they are supposed to use wooden spoons when stiring this kind of pan [Mad]

I know many people of all ages, male and female, who don't know this.

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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
I think you need to cut them a bit of slack. Unless the pot still had a "Teflon/NonStick" label on it, it can be hard to tell a non-stick pot from a normal one.

Yes, very hard ... you just have to look at it.

There's nothing hard about it.

[Confused]

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One of the first things I learned in college was how to cook with pot:

First, clean out all the seeds & stems, and break it up either by hand or with a blender/Cuisinart until you get a consistent fine grain.

Second, saute the pot with butter just long enough to brown it without burning it. This will help with the release of the THC.

Third, add the sauteed pot to your favorite brownie, cookie, muffin, or even pancake mix and cook as directed.

Fourth, find a comfortable place to sit for a few hours.

What?

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quote:
Originally posted by chillas:
quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
I think you need to cut them a bit of slack. Unless the pot still had a "Teflon/NonStick" label on it, it can be hard to tell a non-stick pot from a normal one.

Yes, very hard ... you just have to look at it.

There's nothing hard about it.

[Confused]

Sorry, chillas. I wouldn't know the difference between a black pot and Teflon/nonstick pot just by looking at it. Heck, I have some pots where I don't know if they're nonstick or not, and I use metal in them.

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Metal can be used in some nonstick pots. It depends on the kind of nonstick coating.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Neeva:
He's also been trained in the fine art of why we don't wash my seasoned cast iron in the dishwasher. This was accomplished by not only making him pay for a new one (those things are expensive!) but making him season the new one. Now he's afraid of it lol.

Why buy a new one? You can re-season the old one just as easy as seasoning the new one.

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Speaking as someone who cooks several meals a day, and has several non-stick pans in my arsenal, I have to ask; is that even true any more about non stick pans? I usually use plastic or wood utensils, but I won't even consider making a good sauce or gravy without a nonstick pan and a wire whisk. I have gone through a frying pan or two, but it took eight years to do it.

I also have people in my kitchen cooking or assiting with the cooking all the time. I am 100% certain that mixing a dish with a fork one time would not ruin my pans.

Are you sure that's what they did? Or is it possible that they burnt something and scraped it off with a fork?

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I would have to say cut them some slack as well. I know that in my house, with both my parents working and my sister and I out with activities a lot, there was very rarely any actual cooking with pots and pans. I don't even think that we have a wooden spoon, but we have plenty of non-stick pots. Most cooking I had to learn on my own: my mom can barely cook and my dad usually tried to get me and my sister to do it when we were old enough to "make up for all the times he's done it".

I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset about your pot, it's just that it's a common enough mistake. I suggest that if for some reason you *do* lend out your pots and pans again, add the requirement that lendee must use the appropriate utensils (make sure to tell them what that is) or else you will charge them for the damage. That way, they'll either use it properly, pay for a replacement, or decide not to borrow from you.

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quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
Speaking as someone who cooks several meals a day, and has several non-stick pans in my arsenal, I have to ask; is that even true any more about non stick pans? I usually use plastic or wood utensils, but I won't even consider making a good sauce or gravy without a nonstick pan and a wire whisk. I have gone through a frying pan or two, but it took eight years to do it.

I seem to get by fine with stainless steel saucepans. Sauce? Gravy? All good. The only troublesome thing is that egg will stick pretty well to stainless. Still not worth it to bother with nonstick saucepans . . .

My nonstick omlette pan is of course quite invaluable.

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I also have people in my kitchen cooking or assiting with the cooking all the time. I am 100% certain that mixing a dish with a fork one time would not ruin my pans.
Your pans = properly powder-coated Teflon on a properly-designed substrate. Nonstick layer is thick, textured, and scratch-resistant. Made with Science.

College student pans = low-quality Teflon spraypainted onto low-quality steel. Nonstick layer is whisper-thin, textureless, and can be scratched with hard plastic. Mixing anything with a fork would immediately destroy it, because it is a $2 saucepan.

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quote:
Originally posted by Finite Fourier Alchemy:
...College student pans = low-quality Teflon spraypainted onto low-quality steel. Nonstick layer is whisper-thin, textureless, and can be scratched with hard plastic. Mixing anything with a fork would immediately destroy it, because it is a $2 saucepan.

This is a good point, though this pan has been referred to as expensive.

More to my point, even if these boys did have cooking experience, they might have been able to use a fork to stir their parent's non-stick pot with all the time, but not realized that this pan wouldn't hold up so well.

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One of the first things I learned in college was how to cook with pot:

First, clean out all the seeds & stems, and break it up either by hand or with a blender/Cuisinart until you get a consistent fine grain.

Second, saute the pot with butter just long enough to brown it without burning it. This will help with the release of the THC.

Third, add the sauteed pot to your favorite brownie, cookie, muffin, or even pancake mix and cook as directed.

Fourth, find a comfortable place to sit for a few hours.

What?

I remember talking to someone whose mum used to add some, ehm, "special" herbs to their Sunday lunch each week. Apparently helped make Sunday afternoons a lot more chilled out.

never got into the cooking thing myself. don't like using that much in one go.

...

so, um, yeah, non-stick pans, how about that?

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Did you give them your wooden spoon when you handed over the pot? Why would someone who didn't have a pot have a wooden spoon?

I find it kind of hard to believe that one instance of stirring something with a fork would ruin a non-stick pan's surface.

I've used every utensil in my kitchen on my non-stick pans, including wire whisks and I've had my set for years without an issue. Sure, there are a few nicks in the surface of the most often used pans, but they're over 8 years old.

I can only imagine that the must have burned something and used a fork or knife to scrape it off. Most non-stick pans can take quite a bit of abuse.

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quote:
Originally posted by LikeHeyScoob:
One of the first things I learned in college was how to cook with pot:

First, clean out all the seeds & stems, and break it up either by hand or with a blender/Cuisinart until you get a consistent fine grain.

Second, saute the pot with butter just long enough to brown it without burning it. This will help with the release of the THC.

Third, add the sauteed pot to your favorite brownie, cookie, muffin, or even pancake mix and cook as directed.

Fourth, find a comfortable place to sit for a few hours.

What?

It's also a good idea to be very sure about how much you are using and how it's distributed in the food, before dishing up - I ate a muffin in Amsterdam and sat sipping beer watching Beavis and Butthead laughing my ass off for about 3 hours - I'd recommend it.

But my friend, about a third less my bodyweight, had an overdose and was very uncomfortable for a long time before being sick. When you eat it a lot can get into you system and a cup of tea won't help - be sure to use no more than one 16th of a gram per person of hash and even less of good weed, adjusting for people's size. We used to just crumble the stuff on pizza - easy to see who was getting what...

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^ Sorry. It's the only frying pan smiley we have.

quote:
Originally posted by Finite Fourier Alchemy:
The only troublesome thing is that egg will stick pretty well to stainless. Still not worth it to bother with nonstick saucepans . . .

My nonstick omlette pan is of course quite invaluable.

The best omelette pan I ever had was stainless steel. As long as it was perfectly clean, nothing would stick to it. I was brokenhearted when the handle finally fell off. I guess I shouldn't have flipped the pancakes that way.

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I like my mom's enamel saucepans and pots the best, but she says they are quite expensive.

I have never gotten the appeal of Teflon, but I don't think I've used the higher quality kind. The low quality ones are no more convenient or useful than other types of pans, especially because of the whole no-metal-utensils thing.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Neeva:
He's also been trained in the fine art of why we don't wash my seasoned cast iron in the dishwasher. This was accomplished by not only making him pay for a new one (those things are expensive!) but making him season the new one. Now he's afraid of it lol.

Why buy a new one? You can re-season the old one just as easy as seasoning the new one.
I had exactly the same question. I've had a seasoned pot get de-seasoned by a helpful but clueless friend, and I simply reseasoned it. Good as new.

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You can buy silicone wisks now, for using in non-stick pots and pans. I don't know how good they are, as I distrust all silicone cookware.

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Silicone utensils are excellent. Heat resistant, safe in teflon pans, and very resistant to staining. I don't use non-stick pans because the smell of them being heated makes me sick. I am very sensitive to smells.

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Originally posted by Rhiandmoi:
Silicone utensils are excellent. Heat resistant, safe in teflon pans, and very resistant to staining. I don't use non-stick pans because the smell of them being heated makes me sick. I am very sensitive to smells.

I sure do like my silicone spatulas. They don't crumble and burn up like the rubber ones used to.

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Precisely why I buy my kitchen appliances exclusively at Woolworth (a discounter chain). If it goes kaputt, I´m not upset. Much better for all parties involved, and because I live in a house populated by students, there are many parties involved.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Neeva:
Second method only works with family, spouses, and very good friends -- hand them the store receipt for the replacement. Now that he knows how much a good non-stick pan costs, hubby has become much gentler with them.

The last one I bought cost less than 10 bucks.

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Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm:
^ Sorry. It's the only frying pan smiley we have.

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Originally posted by Finite Fourier Alchemy:
The only troublesome thing is that egg will stick pretty well to stainless. Still not worth it to bother with nonstick saucepans . . .

My nonstick omlette pan is of course quite invaluable.

The best omelette pan I ever had was stainless steel. As long as it was perfectly clean, nothing would stick to it. I was brokenhearted when the handle finally fell off. I guess I shouldn't have flipped the pancakes that way.
I can make a pretty nice omlette with a cast iron skillet, surprisingly. [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by LeaflessMapleTree:
The fact that these guys can't cook is sad, too.

What leads you to believe that these guys can't cook? The only information we have is that the pot came back clean but scratched. We know nothing at all about what they made or how good it was. I've ruined a fair bit of cookware and injured myself a few times just by being careless but my food turns out quite well.

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If I just could get my wife to stop using metal on the non stick pans. I have a nice set of cast iron pots and pans she use all the metal thing she wants on them. She can also turn the temp to high with out burning them as well.

The only reason my does not use the cast iron it that it is to heavy for her.

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