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I also hate buying pants... finding a 29" waist and 33" leg is next to impossible. So, either i get the 28 waist, which end up being a tad to tight, or the 30, which tend to feel uncomfortably loose like they're going to fall down. It's amazing how much difference the one inch makes. And then of course, there's always some shrinkage in the length, which i try to accomodate for by getting the longer ones, but jeans seem to shrink in a way that tightens around my butt. The alternative seems to be to get 'relaxed fit', but they hang on me like prison inmate looking for sex.
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My guess is that it's where you're shopping. I know I always see things in small sizes like that, often on the sales rack (Christie mentioned that too).
If the only problem is length - hem them or have them hemmed. I'm 5'4" and sometimes petite is too short, while regular/avg is too long. I have to have most pants hemmed.
[slight hijack] My own problem is the length of my waist and torso. Years ago, everything used to sit way too high. In the past several years, "low rise" has been a godsend. Because of how I'm shaped, regular low rise (not the extremely low rise) cuts fit perfectly on me. [/slight hijack]
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quote:Originally posted by frogpond: The 5-7-9 Shop was just about the only place that I could find pants that fit when I was that size. Petite Sophisticate should have some as well if there are any stores around.
I'm pretty sure Petite Sophisticate (and Casual Corner) went out of business this past year.
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I am 5'2 and on the petite side. I too have trouble finding pants that fit in the waist, but are too long. Occasionally, I can find something in the Junior's department that works, but more often than not, I have found that size 10, 12 or 14 children's size pants fit rather well. It is harder to find styles that look "adult" but with some effort, it can be done.
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quote:Originally posted by Christie: My youngest niece is a size zero and she never seems to have any problems. If anything the stores tend to have more zeros and twos than anything else. Especially on the sales racks. I guess your budget wouldn't include a trip up north to tour the malls of Ottawa ?
What age is your niece? Generally size zero and those smaller sizes are easier to find in the juniors section or in other sections for young people, but I don't know how nice the pants would be for an adult, though they could be fabulous for all I know.
She's 13, her 16 year old sister is either a 2 or 4. They do shop at stores catering to younger women, but I don't think that means they shop in a junior section as I associate that with stores like Sears or The Bay (and god forbid they should be caught dead there ). I'm talking about pretty much any store in the mall that caters to women/girls. The Gap, Jacobs, Fairweather etc.
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quote:Originally posted by frogpond: The 5-7-9 Shop was just about the only place that I could find pants that fit when I was that size. Petite Sophisticate should have some as well if there are any stores around.
I'm pretty sure Petite Sophisticate (and Casual Corner) went out of business this past year.
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I didn't know that. Shows how long it's been since I've been to a mall!
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quote:Originally posted by Christie: I'm talking about pretty much any store in the mall that caters to women/girls. The Gap, Jacobs, Fairweather etc.
I wear a size 0-4/XS-S depending on the store and though I'm not that tall I'm very long in the legs for my height. Jeans tend to be the hardest to find without needing to get them altered but for the most part I don't have much trouble finding clothes at those kinds of stores at all.
R&W Co. (or RW & Co.?) is a good one. I've had great luck with pants at Old Navy and to a lesser extent The Gap because they have their pants in short, regular, and long lengths. Suzy Shier has a lot of great stuff at really good prices and Reitmans often has a lot of good options. By far the best I've found for clothing options, sizes, and service is Ricki's. They're pricier, but hey, when you find something you like, fits right, and the service to get it was outstanding it's worth it. They may be a bit too 'old' for younger teenagers, though. They're more geared to late teens and older.
This reminds me, I've been meaning to write to Ricki's about how fantastic the service was the last time I was there shopping for a Christmas outfit. Must do that.
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quote:Originally posted by Venus: I'm 5'2 so my problem has always been length. Just the other day i found a long dress i loved, but it was taller then i was. But i don't think i love it enough to pay extra to get it hemmed.
That's always my problem. I'm 5'2" as well, so all of my pants are always too long. And it seems like pants are getting longer now for some reason. I find that whenever I find a pair of pants that fit my waist, they're way too long. (This could also be due to the fact that I'm probably not the right size for my height.)
Gaah! Yes yes yes! I think the theory is, if you're skinny enough to wear a 3, you're a 6 foot tall supermodel. And, if you're not so skinny, then you're a 6 foot Amazon Queen.
My peeve is that it seems they're labelling pants with smaller and smaller numbers. I was seriously underweight in high school, and I wore a 2. 15 years, one kid, and a good 10-15 pounds later - my jeans are still 2s. Naturally, when I go shopping all the jeans on the rack are 10s or 12s.
I think we should form shopping teams - one size 10 and one size 2 can shop together. Because, I know all you size 10s go to the store and the rack is full of 2s. If we team up maybe we can defeat the pants gnomes!
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EQ, JC Penney has a catalog for "big and tall" men that my dad used to get a lot. They have a great assortment of lengths in all waist sizes. Also, IIRFC, they had some options for "unhemmed" lengths.
Slight hijack, I also have trouble with long sleeved shirts, sweatshirts, jackets. My arms are, I guess, quite long. I don't necessarily mind having long arms as I can reach things on the high shelves. But, shirt wise, it creates a problem. Then there is the matter of the shirt not being long enough down the torso. I am NOT an "exposed tummy" person. No one wants to see that, least of all me.
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LittleDuck, I have just the opposite problem, my arms are just a bit short (I guess) and unless I get 3/4 length sleeves, sleeves come down over my fingers.
(General question) Can you hem sleeves the same way you hem pant legs? It seems like you should be able to, but for some reason I've never thought of it. I have problems with button-up shirts and gap-osis, and it's just so frustrating when the rest of the shirt fits perfectly, but my sleeves look like they belong on another top altogether. I don't have length trouble with pants, though. My mom always hemmed my pants for me when I was young, and now I just wear whatever shoes make my pants the right length.
quote:Originally posted by NeeCD: (General question) Can you hem sleeves the same way you hem pant legs? It seems like you should be able to, but for some reason I've never thought of it.
I don't see why not. It would be trickier with any sleeves that have cuffs but I'm sure a good tailor could handle it. I wouldn't want to try anything other than a straight sleeve myself. Just like with flared pants, bell sleeves would be trickier to hem unless you really know what you're doing (which I don't).
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quote:Originally posted by E. Q. Taft: Pants have been my bane for a couple of years now. Manufacturers assume that all tall men are skinny, and all fat men are short.
Really? I'm a 31 waist and I have no idea what leg length I am but I'm 6 feet. And my problem is always that the 31 waist pants have too-short legs, not too-long.
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quote:Originally posted by E. Q. Taft: Pants have been my bane for a couple of years now. Manufacturers assume that all tall men are skinny, and all fat men are short.
Really? I'm a 31 waist and I have no idea what leg length I am but I'm 6 feet. And my problem is always that the 31 waist pants have too-short legs, not too-long.
Really? Men's pants in Canada don't offer options? 31 x 30, 31 x 32, 31 x 34, etc.?
quote:Originally posted by E. Q. Taft: Pants have been my bane for a couple of years now. Manufacturers assume that all tall men are skinny, and all fat men are short.
Really? I'm a 31 waist and I have no idea what leg length I am but I'm 6 feet. And my problem is always that the 31 waist pants have too-short legs, not too-long.
Really? Men's pants in Canada don't offer options? 31 x 30, 31 x 32, 31 x 34, etc.?
I would guess the problem is not that they aren't offered, but that they are hard to find. We have the same problems finding pants for my husband because he needs pants with a 30 inch waist and a 34 inch inseam. The only solution we have found is to go through Lands' End because they will do custom hemming. For jeans we go to the ranch supply stores or Western wear stores because apparently they assume working cowboys come in a variety of sizes.
The problem ultimately is that if you fall outside the standard range of sizes i's hard to find clothes that fit. It doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman.
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While my size is 'unusually' large rather than uncommonly small, I have a bit of advice FWIW. Buy it on Ebay. No, this is not an advert. I must find clothing in 4x and 5x, with shirts tunic-length because of, well, a pendulous abdomen. I can't find these sizes in most clothing or department stores, and even the 'larger size' clothing stores like Fashion Bug have my sizes only sporadically. Ebay or equivalent websites have a vast array of clothing available in my size. You must take care to order by exact measurement rather than stated size, but with that caveat (also check for good feedback) I have had success finding everything from corsets to raincoats. Good Luck
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KDS, I'm sorry that you took offense to my comment. I was a bit frustrated when I wrote it, I suppose, & it does seem a bit off now that I read it nice & calm. Forgive, if you can?
& to everyone else that wrote in with suggestions, thanks. The closest 5-7-9 store is about an hour away, but I'll probably trek over there soon.
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My problem might be due to where I shop (I'm on a limited budget)...junior girls' sizes usually fit me fine, but I have trouble finding things that are age-appropriate. Dressing like a wanna-be rock star was fine when I was a teen up through my early 20s, but as I edge closer to 30 (yipes!) it's hard to find sophisticated, adult-looking clothing for a tall, skinny woman.
I don't follow fashion trends, so things might have changed. But the last time I went clothes shopping, everything in my size seemed designed for hookers, dance clubs, and rebellious teens wishing to pose as pseudo-punk rockers. Whenever I found something plain, it was either far too big and/or made me look frumpy. I was lucky enough several years ago to find two well-fitted plain t-shirts that were respectable enough for job interviews but didn't make me look like I was draped in a tent. They were about $5 each. I'd like to find more of those, but I haven't been able to.
I think most designers forget that tall, skinny women need businesswear too. We don't all want to walk around with lace, ruffles, sequins, and skulls emblazoned on see-through tank tops.
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Can someone explain how junior sizes work, in relation to adult women sizes? I seem to be a junior in some clothes, but I have no idea what the numbers mean. Are they approximate ages?
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My mother spoiled for me, when she would say 'If you only lose 5 pounds"
Then ex would add on to it, by telling me"you would be pretty if you lost weight.
All that did was dig my self esteem in a deeper hole.
Now I have 3 daughters, the oldest one in shaped like my X Mother-in-law, not even 5 feet tall and and on the heavier side. In her teen years shopping was like having a root canal. I knew better than to say her "If you lose 5 pounds..... yada yada yada. Basically if she found clothes that fit she was ecstatic.
Then came daughter #2 who had a nice shape, not skinny and not heavy, but her style and mine were not the same, and she didn't care what things cost, if she found of jeans in costing $50, in another store, if she found the exact same jeans in Walmart, she'd want the expensive pair. Not to mention the rest of her clothes, good thing for was, I had rules she had to follow, the shirts had cover the top of her pants, if tried on small,I would get her medium. I tried my best to keep her covered...LOL Now that she is married, some of her clothes make me shutter, at least I am not buying them, and her husband doesn't seem to mind.
Daughter #3, also not skinny, not heavy, she hasn't paid full price anything she buys, if its not on the clearance rack, she won't buy it.
My partner & I wear the same size, her mom buys us good clothes for Christmas, and her taste is impecable. My partner has to wear a uniform to work. I am on disabilty, I don't get dressed unless I going somewhere.
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I have to share: I found the perfect jeans for me this weekend. They fit in length, size, waist...all of it. I'm 5'3" and about a size 12-14, have a 22 inch inseam, and am well-endowed in the thigh and butt area. I have a hell of a time finding pants at all that don't make me look like I'm squeezing two pigs in a sack, but these managed to fit perfectly. Where did I find these wonderful pants?
Steve and Barry's. They have very young-looking clothing that caters to the teenagers but manage to have basics like mid-rise jeans, oversized button-downs, v-neck t-shirts without patterns and stylish blazers. Nothing is more than $14.98. If you have one in your area, I suggest you go take a look. It's a gem of a place.
quote:Originally posted by Flowy Chloe: Can someone explain how junior sizes work, in relation to adult women sizes? I seem to be a junior in some clothes, but I have no idea what the numbers mean. Are they approximate ages?
Nope. it goes sorta like 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 etc. however, the cut is normally different. Less room in hip and thigh and bust in the Junior sizes.
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quote:Originally posted by LittleDuck: Slight hijack, I also have trouble with long sleeved shirts, sweatshirts, jackets. My arms are, I guess, quite long.
I have this problem with women's stuff. I prefer long sleeves, due to having more hair on my arms than most women (though I trim and sometimes have bleached it when cross-dressing), but it's very hard to find sleeves long enough in most styles. Some years back, Lane Bryant had a "Tall Collection" and I still have a couple of very out-of-date dresses from it with long sleeves that actually FIT. If I had known then what I know now, I would have bought a lot more from them.
Still, I prefer short sleeves to 3/4 sleeves....those look awful on me.
quote: KDS, I'm sorry that you took offense to my comment. I was a bit frustrated when I wrote it, I suppose, & it does seem a bit off now that I read it nice & calm. Forgive, if you can?
Of course! We all say things in the heat of the moment (or the rant) that later turn out far from how we intended them, and I’m certainly no exception. You know, I could use a new pair of pants, myself. *Wanders off looking for the sales paper.*
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Whenever you need a certain something at a good price, it's never available. It doesn't matter what size you are. The problem is that you need the pants, and the universe knows it, and rearranges things to put all the pants that fit you somewhere else.
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Shopping for pants is a pain. I'm very petite. It's hard to find something that will fit, yet make me look like a woman in her 30's.
I did find some pants at Mervyn's size 4 petites. They don't sag at the crotch and they aren't low slung.
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quote:Less room in hip and thigh and bust in the Junior sizes.
Which is my problem. I have a size 3 waist and size 9 hips. However, I'm barely a B cup on my good days.
I've noticed that in women's sizes (which I CANNOT wear), in order to be a "woman", you must have a large chest. Also, if you have big hips, you must also have a large waist. It's immensely frustrating, especially when I find something I'd really like to get in the women's department.
Some days I just get tired of digging through racks of skin-tight junior's clothes to find *one* decent shirt.
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quote:Originally posted by black roses 19:
quote:Less room in hip and thigh and bust in the Junior sizes.
Which is my problem. I have a size 3 waist and size 9 hips. However, I'm barely a B cup on my good days.
I've noticed that in women's sizes (which I CANNOT wear), in order to be a "woman", you must have a large chest. Also, if you have big hips, you must also have a large waist. It's immensely frustrating, especially when I find something I'd really like to get in the women's department.
Some days I just get tired of digging through racks of skin-tight junior's clothes to find *one* decent shirt.
I don't know what you mean by "women's" sizes, but it may be that you are looking in the full figured department which are sized for people with ample boobage. My stores have Juniors, Misses, Petites, Women's, Petite Women's and then sometimes those sections are broken out by athletic, casual, formal and ultra formal. I shop mostly in Juniors, Misses and Petites.
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quote:Originally posted by E. Q. Taft: Pants have been my bane for a couple of years now. Manufacturers assume that all tall men are skinny, and all fat men are short.
I need around a 42 waist and 34 inseam, but almost anyplace I look, if you have a 42 waist, the longest inseam you can get is 32. You can get a 34 inseam with a 38 waist, but not bigger.
Fortunately, there are a few places I can buy online (Eddie Bauer, for instance) that will hem their pants at any length for you. (Well, I suppose not any length, but 33 or 34 inches is within their range.)
Also fortunately, I can wear shorts most of the year.
Take a look at Bill's KhakisYou can order online, or find them in a local store (more than likely). They are a bit pricey, but will last FOREVER. I also have good luck at JC Penny, and they are ALWAYS having a sale in the "Fat Man's" Department.
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I have trouble getting any clothes to fit me, because I am basically the opposite of this so-called average woman that all clothes are cut to fit - over here, that means larger on the bottom than the top. Doesn't work for me; my hips are a size 12 while my waist is a size 14, so trousers that do up round my waist are baggy on the arse and trousers that fit my bum I can't do up. I've also got a 33" inside leg, which is an inch longer than most shops' long fitting (and I'm only 5'6"!) Up top, I am petite around my shoulders and ribcage but I have a 34G bust, so I simply cannot wear shirts and t-shirts have to be two sizes bigger than I would otherwise need just to fit over my boobage.
Which is when I do find something that fits me, I buy two or three of it, just to be on the safe side!
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I'd like to hijack this rant with a question:
Why can't sexy have sleeves? I shopped and shopped for a party dress and it's either spaghetti straps, or surplice wraps, or shapeless shifts with granny jackets.
I know I'm fat, but I do have a waist. Can't I please have something pretty? I've found one dress that I like, online, and it's sold out.
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quote:Originally posted by Griffin at the Maul: Take a look at Bill's KhakisYou can order online, or find them in a local store (more than likely). They are a bit pricey, but will last FOREVER.
I would like to say, for the record, that Bill's Khakis are the best casual pants I've ever worn in my life.
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quote:Originally posted by Rhiandmoi: I don't know what you mean by "women's" sizes, but it may be that you are looking in the full figured department which are sized for people with ample boobage. My stores have Juniors, Misses, Petites, Women's, Petite Women's and then sometimes those sections are broken out by athletic, casual, formal and ultra formal. I shop mostly in Juniors, Misses and Petites.
Lots of department stores have a "Women's" section in addition to juniors, misses, and petites. IIRC, the cut is kind of like Misses (and completely unlike Juniors), but in larger sizes.
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Personally, I have unusually short legs (I was invited last year to join the Lollipop Guild). That is a major pain in buying off-the-rack trousers: plenty in my waist size, none with legs short enough so I don't walk on them.
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quote:Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm: I'd like to hijack this rant with a question:
Why can't sexy have sleeves? I shopped and shopped for a party dress and it's either spaghetti straps, or surplice wraps, or shapeless shifts with granny jackets.
I know I'm fat, but I do have a waist. Can't I please have something pretty? I've found one dress that I like, online, and it's sold out.
Spam-and-Cookies, how about something like this? Some of Scala's "mother-of-the-bride" stuff is bleah, but there's a couple pretty ones on this page.
Edited to add: Sorry, that link goes to the first page. It's the fourth dress on the last page that I was referring to.
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