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I recall when I worked for Sears, and a child about 12 years old waited in line very politely and patiently, just to ask a question about something he wanted to buy for his mom. When his turn came, I listened patiently, and then showed him where the items he was looking for could be found. While i was listening to him, i heard a woman behind him in line say "Why don't you wait on the real customers?" I turned to her and said "He was waiting in line before you, and he is a real customer." She gave me a dirty look, but everyone else had an evil grin.
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*Le Sigh* I've said it all before. No use repeating myself. That seems to be a fault of us old people. I will repeat this, though: "Be careful, kiddies. The calendar is working against you."
To those of you who paint us all with the same brush - .
To those of you who say "some old people" do this, that or the other - thanks.
To those of you who have acknowledged that an asshat is an asshat, no matter what the age or other category - Yay!
I don't know why I insist on reading threads like this. Maybe it's because I'm old and don't remember from one to the next how they make my day!
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quote:On a slightly related hijack but I can't stand the "common feeder line" as George Carlin calls them. What was so wrong with each teller/cashier/etc having their own line?
What's the advantage of one big line instead of a dozen short ones?
It's faster. You don't have all the jockeying around trying to find the shortest, fastest line only to have it bog down when the person in front of you needs something lengthy and have everyone else scoot through. It also takes up less room than having a dozen lines with people stringing out behind them. One group of people in one spot. It's also much fairer as you don't have people jumping to the next free agent as described. All in all it flows much better and is much easier to manage.
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quote:Originally posted by Signora Del Drago: *Le Sigh* I've said it all before. No use repeating myself. That seems to be a fault of us old people. I will repeat this, though: "Be careful, kiddies. The calendar is working against you."
To those of you who paint us all with the same brush - .
To those of you who say "some old people" do this, that or the other - thanks.
To those of you who have acknowledged that an asshat is an asshat, no matter what the age or other category - Yay!
I don't know why I insist on reading threads like this. Maybe it's because I'm old and don't remember from one to the next how they make my day!
You read them to remind yourself of the folly of your own whippersnapper days!
I think part of the problem here is we expect older people to know better and are more surprised when some act like asses.
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My grandmother taught me that (absent illness issues) people don't change their basic natures as they grow old. The nice little old lady was probably a nice young woman and a nice middle-aged woman. The nasty old bitch was nasty to start out with.
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quote:Originally posted by violetbon: I recall when I worked for Sears, and a child about 12 years old waited in line very politely and patiently, just to ask a question about something he wanted to buy for his mom. When his turn came, I listened patiently, and then showed him where the items he was looking for could be found. While i was listening to him, i heard a woman behind him in line say "Why don't you wait on the real customers?" I turned to her and said "He was waiting in line before you, and he is a real customer." She gave me a dirty look, but everyone else had an evil grin.
Wow, I remember that one from my 12-year-old days. Mom and/or Dad would dump me at the barber shop to get my hair cut, and the barber would take adult customers who came in after I did. Maybe he thought he should take them first because they might have more reason to be in a hurry? Didn't seem right to me even then.
quote:Originally posted by Joe Bentley: On a slightly related hijack but I can't stand the "common feeder line" as George Carlin calls them. What was so wrong with each teller/cashier/etc having their own line?
What's the advantage of one big line instead of a dozen short ones?
If you take a class in queuing theory (yes, I did), you will find that the model of 1 line, many servers is best. The AVERAGE wait time is the same for either many servers/many lines, and many servers/single line, but the standard deviation of how long you will wait is shorter.
In other words, on average, you get to wait 20 minutes each time, but if there were multiple lines, your wait time might be 20 minutes +/- 10 minutes, but in a single line form, it would be 20 minutes +/- 1 minute.
Think of a line to use a teller at a bank. If each teller has their own line, you might end up picking the line/teller that is really slow (say the person in front of you is attempting to take out a home loan...). In a single line/many teller version, the slow teller/customer doesn't hold up anyone else.
(gosh, I knew that class would be useful SOME day...)
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quote:Originally posted by Signora Del Drago: *Le Sigh* I've said it all before. No use repeating myself. That seems to be a fault of us old people. I will repeat this, though: "Be careful, kiddies. The calendar is working against you."
To those of you who paint us all with the same brush - .
To those of you who say "some old people" do this, that or the other - thanks.
To those of you who have acknowledged that an asshat is an asshat, no matter what the age or other category - Yay!
I don't know why I insist on reading threads like this. Maybe it's because I'm old and don't remember from one to the next how they make my day!
I didn't mean to imply all elderly people are jerks, or that all elderly women cut in line. It's just that vast majority of the times I've been cut in a line it's been by an old woman (I do remember most times it's happened since it always annoys me). They always do it the same way too. They look at the long line, look for a decent sized gap toward the front (I give people a good amount of personal space), then they stand near the gap and eventually fill it in. I've almost never seen people my age (30) or younger do this.
But you're right, a jerk is a jerk no matter how old they are. And aside from the few bad apples, I do treat them with respect.
And I love the common line setup. It take away all the stress of trying to guess which line is going to be slow
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quote:Originally posted by Bill: the supermarket near me has a nice way of handling opening a new line: the cashier physically goes to the line where people are waiting and tells the next person, "I can take you on line 1!"
Personally, I have never seen a grocery store handle it any differently, so I found redsnapper's story a little confusing at first. I still find it amazing that there are places that don't do it this way.
Seaboe
Grocery stores do in fact sometimes do as Bill describes but Hobby Lobby and Micheals don't and they are the WORST. Ugh. They have indifferent employees at best anyway. ("we have to be here all day so why shouldn't you be too") ~forgive my not going back through the posts to get the name, but the poster who is a checker who asks for the "next time line" - bless you! and thank you!!
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quote:Originally posted by Lainie: My grandmother taught me that (absent illness issues) people don't change their basic natures as they grow old. The nice little old lady was probably a nice young woman and a nice middle-aged woman. The nasty old bitch was nasty to start out with.
I agree with this totally. That's why the saying, "there's no fool like an old fool." ~ look, you've had all these experiences, you should be wise and know better! And some are! But some people just. never. learn. No matter how old they are!
I hope I'm a cool old person and not a pain in the ass old person. As middle age is definitely going to be here just any minute now, it's something I need to strive for - to learn from my lessons and not just be a stubborn old bird. Heh.
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quote:Originally posted by Joe Bentley: On a slightly related hijack but I can't stand the "common feeder line" as George Carlin calls them. What was so wrong with each teller/cashier/etc having their own line?
What's the advantage of one big line instead of a dozen short ones?
If you take a class in queuing theory (yes, I did), you will find that the model of 1 line, many servers is best. The AVERAGE wait time is the same for either many servers/many lines, and many servers/single line, but the standard deviation of how long you will wait is shorter.
In other words, on average, you get to wait 20 minutes each time, but if there were multiple lines, your wait time might be 20 minutes +/- 10 minutes, but in a single line form, it would be 20 minutes +/- 1 minute.
Think of a line to use a teller at a bank. If each teller has their own line, you might end up picking the line/teller that is really slow (say the person in front of you is attempting to take out a home loan...). In a single line/many teller version, the slow teller/customer doesn't hold up anyone else.
(gosh, I knew that class would be useful SOME day...)
Thank you Doug.
I worked as a teller for three years, and trust me, there were people you did not want to be stuck behind.
Like the guys depositing the cash from the fish market. Very nice folks (once brought in calamari for a coworker when she said she loved it) but their deposits had to be hand counted for the cash and it all smelled like fish. Or the guy who wants three Treasurer's or Certified Checks, when even one is time consuming.
Or would you prefer to wait behind the guy making the deposits for the Golden Banana strip club? (this was only at one of our branches) Counting that many ones takes up precious time you know! (Don't even ask about the slightly damp feel )
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Another big vote for the common line. Because in grocery stores, where you don't have them, I always. always. ALWAYS. Get behind someone with a big PROBLEM of some sort and then the flashing sign and then time stops in it's tracks and people become immobile as if stuck in epoxy and galaxies are born and die and humans evolve into creatures of energy and light before they finally get to ME.
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quote:Originally posted by Hubert Cumberdale: I didn't mean to imply all elderly people are jerks, or that all elderly women cut in line. It's just that vast majority of the times I've been cut in a line it's been by an old woman (I do remember most times it's happened since it always annoys me). They always do it the same way too. They look at the long line, look for a decent sized gap toward the front (I give people a good amount of personal space), then they stand near the gap and eventually fill it in. I've almost never seen people my age (30) or younger do this.
I have seen all ages do this and it always amazes me when the people they are cutting directly in front of never say anything. Do they not pay attention to who is in front of them?
Because I do believe in personal space, I have had a few of these offenders (of all ages) do this to me. 90% of the time when I call them on cutting in line, they get angry and act offended as if I was the rude person! How dare I call them out on their rudeness! The best so far though was the two girls at a Alton Brown signing who tried to act like they were part of the group in front of us (mentioned before in this thread) by standing as close as physically possible to one of members of the party. They became rude and offended that both us and the party in front of us kicked them out of line. Of course, they refused to budge until one member of the other party left to get security (which would have thrown them out of the entire event and not just the line). They never did get back in line, but rather stood around and took pictures of AB with random strangers and of course, DH and I - probably to go home and complain about to their friends "...and this chick kicked us out of line! We cut fair and square and she called us on it! Beeyotch!"
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I spent 45 minutes whining (pointlessly) for a common line at Epcot last weekend during lunch. They have all the food places set up with about 8 sets of two ordering lines and a third pickup line between them. This sounds ok until there are 400 people all wanting the same food, then the poor order fillers behind the counter get the 16 different orders mixed up and noone can get to the back of the pickup line or back to the front of it to get their food.
And DOYC help you if you are much overweight because you'll never fit thru to even get to the front of the line. I had plenty of time in that line to work out exactally how they could expedite the entire process by making it more like a cafeteria with a single serving line and maybe 2 or 3 cashiers at the end taking money.
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Arriah, I think they secretly want you to spend more time in line for food at amusement parks, so you'll have less time to be in line at the rides.
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quote:Originally posted by redsnapperdragonfly: I hope I'm a cool old person and not a pain in the ass old person. As middle age is definitely going to be here just any minute now, it's something I need to strive for - to learn from my lessons and not just be a stubborn old bird. Heh.
Pssst! I just looked at your profile. I hate to tell you this, but you are already past middle-aged. No need to keep waiting for it to arrive. Article dated 2/28/05
quote:Women now have a life expectancy of 80.1 years, 5.3 more than men.
By the way, you are a very good-looking woman, for your age. See what I mean about the calendar? Tee hee hee. Seriously, you are good-looking. I was just kidding about the calendar thingy.
What gets me is being considered "elderly." For some reason, and I realize this is irrational, "old" doesn't sound, to me, nearly as "old" as "elderly" does. "Elderly" should, to me, mean 75-80+. Not according to The U.S. Census Bureau, though.
quote:In this century, the rate of growth of the elderly population (persons 65 years old and over). . .
There's that damned calendar, again!
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This talk about common lines & tellers reminds me of how pissed off I got last Friday at my bank cashing my check. They have a common line feeding up to 4 tellers. When I arrived, there was one lady being helped by a teller & one person in drive thru, so I went inside. I think the lady at the counter was trying to cash a 4th party out of country check or something, because she was sllloooowwww with a lot of questions. The other teller working was at drive thru. Usually the drive thru teller will help with the other customers inside if he/she doesn't have anyone out there. Well the car left, then she answered the phone, diddlefarted around with some other stuff after the call, then proceded to help 2 more cars while I was just standing there steaming the whole time. I was literaly next in line for 20 minutes. I almost went back out to my car to go thru the D.T. but alas, I didn't. Finally, just before the lady in front of me was done, another teller came off break & helped me. Great timing!
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I was one of those kids in school that simply couldn't fathom why you would act out or be rude. I'm this same way with cutting in line. What do these people not understand about waiting? You go to the back of the line & you wait, because though it might be terribly hard to imagine, the people in front of you had to wait to get into that spot.
I've cut a huge line before though, but everyone was nice about it so I didn't feel too bad.
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My issues with Disney food lines are not only the pick up counter issues you raised, Arriah, but the fact that there are giant signs above the windows for people to read and decide what they want before they make it to the order window. The problem with that is that every. single. person. I get in line behind decides to ignore the giant menu looming above them the 15-20 minutes they are waiting until they make it to the window and every single person in their party has to read the entire menu and then decide what they want. Usually each memeber waits until the memeber before them orders before they start the process of reading the entire menu and figuring out what they want.
For anyone that wishes to experience this first-hand, please visit Disneyland and order food at the SpacePort located in TomorrowLand. Once there, you shall find "The Lines That Never Move."tm Be forewarned though, that although there only appears to be 20-25 people in front of you and because of the lack of a large menu of items to choose from, your expected wait of 15-20 minutes will actually feel (and sometimes be) closer to anywhere between 45 minutes to 2 hours. Enjoy!
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quote:Originally posted by Signora Del Drago: What gets me is being considered "elderly." For some reason, and I realize this is irrational, "old" doesn't sound, to me, nearly as "old" as "elderly" does.
One of the very first things I learned in the newspaper business is never, ever, ever, refer to a woman as "elderly." I don't care if she's 115 -- if you call her "elderly," someone will complain.
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quote:Originally posted by vanilla: My issues with Disney food lines are not only the pick up counter issues you raised, Arriah, but the fact that there are giant signs above the windows for people to read and decide what they want before they make it to the order window. The problem with that is that every. single. person. I get in line behind decides to ignore the giant menu looming above them the 15-20 minutes they are waiting until they make it to the window and every single person in their party has to read the entire menu and then decide what they want. Usually each memeber waits until the memeber before them orders before they start the process of reading the entire menu and figuring out what they want.
I used to date a guy who never started deciding what to order before getting to the counter because he was too busy talking. I vowed to never go to the Varsity with him, I wouldn't have been able to take the embarrasment!
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quote:Originally posted by Signora Del Drago: What gets me is being considered "elderly." For some reason, and I realize this is irrational, "old" doesn't sound, to me, nearly as "old" as "elderly" does.
One of the very first things I learned in the newspaper business is never, ever, ever, refer to a woman as "elderly." I don't care if she's 115 -- if you call her "elderly," someone will complain.
Pogue
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A few years ago, I was waiting in a drive-through line at Fazoli's. After waiting in line for about 8 minutes, I placed my order in the little intercom and started to pull forward. Just then an old man in a ridiculously large Oldsmobile came out of nowehre and pulled in front of me! He got to the teller at the window and was actually trying to order! I was completely stunned! Fortunately, the young woman told the old bastard that he needed to get in line with the rest of us, but I was absolutely floored!
A bit OT, but it is my PET PEEVE when people cut in line in traffic. For instance, if a lane ahead is closed and everyone KNOWS it's closed and moves over. Then asshats pass everyone in the open lane and try to cut in right before the lane officially closes. I never let them in! I have been VERY close to a collision before because of my refusal to yield. It angers me like nothing else while driving!
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I was in the hardware store and picked up one item. I had cash. I go to the only checkout currently operational, where there is nobody waiting. But the operator tells me she's waiting on the customer to come back. Sigh.
I stand, I wait. A silly old biddy comes up behind me and gives me the evil death glare for daring to just be stupidly standing there and not actively being served. I smile and say "She's waiting for the customer to come back from somewhere".
Another checkout opens right next to it. The SOB takes a nanosecond to move over into the front. I contemplate saying "Look, I've got one item and cash, may I go first?" but don't. Unfortunately, I should have. She has a basket of items. Some are marked wrong. Or perhaps right, but she's questioning it anyway. Then she's got a question on something. Argh!! Meanwhile, the first original customer came back, got served, and the two people who had queued up behind her after I moved also got served.
THAT is why common-queue lines are GREAT!
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quote:Originally posted by erinker74: A few years ago, I was waiting in a drive-through line at Fazoli's. After waiting in line for about 8 minutes, I placed my order in the little intercom and started to pull forward. Just then an old man in a ridiculously large Oldsmobile came out of nowehre and pulled in front of me!
That's why all drive-throughs I've ever known are built with concrete islands separating the drive-through area from the driving area. There isn't one I know of that isn't a 'tunnel'. You drive in one end, you drive out the other. No other options are possible.
quote:Then asshats pass everyone in the open lane and try to cut in right before the lane officially closes. I never let them in!
I almost never let them in, but I don't go to the 'almost collision' status. If they're that bull-headed, they can go in. But if they've come from behind me by driving down a 'closed' lane or the verge or grass boundary, they are not getting in ahead of me without forcing it!
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quote:Originally posted by Signora Del Drago: What gets me is being considered "elderly." For some reason, and I realize this is irrational, "old" doesn't sound, to me, nearly as "old" as "elderly" does.
One of the very first things I learned in the newspaper business is never, ever, ever, refer to a woman as "elderly." I don't care if she's 115 -- if you call her "elderly," someone will complain.
Pogue
I thought old was actually worse than elderly. What should we call them then? Would senior do? Although any word commonly used will eventually take on a negative meaning. Just look at the evolution of what we call the mentally handicapped
I think it depends on where you grew up and the people you grew up with. We used to call the great-grandmother "elderly" and the grandmother "old." So, I guess I should be "elderly" since I'm a great-grandmother. But, you can't really go by that. I started having offspring way too young! "Elderly" doesn't actually have a negative meaning, and I'm not insulted by it. It simply sounds like a word I might used to describe my 81-year-old aunt. Or not. She's still very active and is mentally astute. Heck, she even does their pool maintenance all summer long. I knew I'd be a little old lady if I lived long enough, I just didn't know it would be so soon! Maybe that's why "elderly" seems to be pushing it a tad.
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quote:Originally posted by erinker74: A bit OT, but it is my PET PEEVE when people cut in line in traffic. For instance, if a lane ahead is closed and everyone KNOWS it's closed and moves over. Then asshats pass everyone in the open lane and try to cut in right before the lane officially closes. I never let them in! I have been VERY close to a collision before because of my refusal to yield. It angers me like nothing else while driving!
This is an age old argument (that I'm sure has gone on here in the past). Some people see no problem with it as long as the lane is open they feel they have the right to be in that lane until the very end when the lane is blocked off. That logic actually makes sense, if everyone merged the second the sign came up there would be chaos so you should wait until it's safe to get into the lane. However, it's the asshats who will actually leave their own lane and zoom by everyone that piss me off. And since I usually can't tell who's doing it because they just couldn't find a safe opening and who's being an ass I try not to be a road vigilante about it.
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I had a very full cartload of groceries and was putting them on the belt. I only had about 1/4th of the belt filled when some woman started putting her very full load on! I don't mind sharing the belt but if I have a full load of groceries, I am not going to stand there and try to put my things on before the belt moves some inconsiderate biddy's stuff up. I go "Excuse me, would you mind waiting until I have my stuff up?" and she acted like I had murdered her cat. Acted all put out and huffed as she put the things back in her cart. I ended up filling the belt plus putting stuff up as it moved along.
quote:Originally posted by Signora Del Drago: Pssst! I just looked at your profile. I hate to tell you this, but you are already past middle-aged. No need to keep waiting for it to arrive. [/QB]
LALALALALA!!! Can't hear you can't hear you LALALALA!!!! *fingers in ears*
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quote:Originally posted by Hubert Cumberdale:
quote:Originally posted by erinker74: A bit OT, but it is my PET PEEVE when people cut in line in traffic. For instance, if a lane ahead is closed and everyone KNOWS it's closed and moves over. Then asshats pass everyone in the open lane and try to cut in right before the lane officially closes. I never let them in! I have been VERY close to a collision before because of my refusal to yield. It angers me like nothing else while driving!
This is an age old argument (that I'm sure has gone on here in the past). Some people see no problem with it as long as the lane is open they feel they have the right to be in that lane until the very end when the lane is blocked off. That logic actually makes sense, if everyone merged the second the sign came up there would be chaos so you should wait until it's safe to get into the lane. However, it's the asshats who will actually leave their own lane and zoom by everyone that piss me off. And since I usually can't tell who's doing it because they just couldn't find a safe opening and who's being an ass I try not to be a road vigilante about it.
The one that gets me is this.
The main road that leads to Naval Station Norfolk has three lanes. The two left lanes go into the two main gates, the right lane leads back onto the highway.
As you can imagine on some mornings the two lanes leading into the base can get backed up, sometimes quite a bit. While a lot of idiots decided to drive up until they are almost to the gate in the right lane, and sit there with their blinker on until someone lets them in.
The problem is that if you let them in, you're just encouraging these idiots, but if you don't you hold up all the people who legitimately do need to be in that lane to turn into the highway.
I've been tempted to open my window and scream at the watchstander manning the 50 BMG machine gun on the gate "He's got a bomb!" and watching with glee as thousands of hotdog sized bullets turn them and their vehicle into thousand pieces of shredded metal and leaky meat, but I suppose that might be seen as excessive.
The best thing was one day one of the base's traffic cops, who get as feed up with it as the drivers because it screws up the traffic flow and does present a real legitimate security risk, forced the people in the lane to turn into the highway, forcing them to fight several miles up the highway and back in rush hour traffic.
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quote:Originally posted by tribrats: I had a very full cartload of groceries and was putting them on the belt. I only had about 1/4th of the belt filled when some woman started putting her very full load on! I don't mind sharing the belt but if I have a full load of groceries, I am not going to stand there and try to put my things on before the belt moves some inconsiderate biddy's stuff up. I go "Excuse me, would you mind waiting until I have my stuff up?" and she acted like I had murdered her cat. Acted all put out and huffed as she put the things back in her cart. I ended up filling the belt plus putting stuff up as it moved along.
Ooooooh, I hate it when people do that. Oh, boy, do I hate it.
I got kind of vicious with the nasty soccer mom-type who thought she was going to put her stuff on the belt before I finished unloading my cart. I just put my arm in front of her stuff, and unloaded with the help of Mr. K. She finally got the hint (keep in mind, I asked her nicely but firmly to not put her stuff up until mine was completely unloaded, and she pretended she didn't hear me), when some of her canned goods hit the floor.
She glared at me, and said, "Who do you think you are!"
I smiled sweetly, and said, "Had you not decided to pretend you didn't hear me, and instead, decided to be considerate of other people, you wouldn't have that problem. You acted like an asshat. I responded by treating you like an asshat. Actions have consequences, and you are not the center of the universe."
She was furious. I had long since stopped caring what she thought.
Inconsiderate people irritate me.
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I have NEVER had someone put their groceries on the belt before I was done unloading. That is simply astounding - and stupid - because the logical thing to happen next is for the clerk to ring up the wrong person's groceries.
Either I've been lucky, or maybe they aren't *quite* as rude in small town Texas as some places. ~ They do get pretty amazingly bad though sometimes.
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I've had it happen twice within a week of each other. Both at the same store! What I wrote about was the first time. The second time I didn't have quite as much but still a lot (was getting stuff for a cookout). I just continued unloading and didn't worry if my things mixed in with hers (not the same woman). She got the hint and removed her things. Although I did discover that I ended up with her deodorant. Never tried it before and now that's the kind I use.
quote:Originally posted by redsnapperdragonfly: I have NEVER had someone put their groceries on the belt before I was done unloading. That is simply astounding - and stupid - because the logical thing to happen next is for the clerk to ring up the wrong person's groceries.
I've been the premature loader precisely once. It was a couple of weeks ago actually and not entirely my fault: there were two women with one trolley in front of me and they put some stuff on the belt and then put the "next customer please" divider on the belt. So I satrted to unload my trolley, only to be stopped by one of the women. Turns out they were doing their two separate shopping loads using one mutual trolley, and I hadn't seen that the trolley wasn't completely unloaded because the two women stood between me and it were not invisible and I do not have X-ray eyes. I still felt really stupid though, after the condescending little lecture I got given.
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quote:Originally posted by erinker74: A bit OT, but it is my PET PEEVE when people cut in line in traffic. For instance, if a lane ahead is closed and everyone KNOWS it's closed and moves over. Then asshats pass everyone in the open lane and try to cut in right before the lane officially closes. I never let them in! I have been VERY close to a collision before because of my refusal to yield. It angers me like nothing else while driving!
This is an age old argument (that I'm sure has gone on here in the past). Some people see no problem with it as long as the lane is open they feel they have the right to be in that lane until the very end when the lane is blocked off. That logic actually makes sense, if everyone merged the second the sign came up there would be chaos so you should wait until it's safe to get into the lane. However, it's the asshats who will actually leave their own lane and zoom by everyone that piss me off. And since I usually can't tell who's doing it because they just couldn't find a safe opening and who's being an ass I try not to be a road vigilante about it.
Would it be chaos, though? I am certainly no expert on this but it seems to me that, when people have to slow down or even stop to let these asshats in, they are slowing down the flow of traffic in the open lane. They usually give a good 1/2 mile or more warning and provided it isn't rush hour, that provides enough space for everyone to merge over safely and efficiently. In most cases, if you are stopped two feet from the road black with your blinker on praying for someone to let you in, you have done something wrong, and I don't let them in. I never have road rage for anyone else except people who do this. It is no different than standing in a long line and having a few dickeweeds literally just run past you and cut in.
I don't care whether they think it's okay or not because it is not okay. It's not, it's not, it's NOT, I tells you!!!!
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