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moonfall86
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Pretend the gnome is an elf.

No, it's not hectic shopping or dealing with my relatives (yeah, that's another issue.) I'm dreading the "war on Christmas" crap starting up again. I hear it from not only my more religious relatives on my mom's side of the family, but my dad (who isn't particularly religious) does it too. (He uses it as an excuse for liberal-bashing.)

I don't want politics to ruins my mood this year. I wish I could get Grandma to turn off The O'Riley Factor (proof that people actually pay attention to what he has to say). I'm a little worried what they might think if they knew I was advocating including Hanukkah in our Christmas party this year since one of the roommates is Jewish.

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Amigone201
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quote:
Originally posted by moonfall86:
Pretend the gnome is an elf.

No, it's not hectic shopping or dealing with my relatives (yeah, that's another issue.) I'm dreading the "war on Christmas" crap starting up again. I hear it from not only my more religious relatives on my mom's side of the family, but my dad (who isn't particularly religious) does it too. (He uses it as an excuse for liberal-bashing.)

I don't want politics to ruins my mood this year. I wish I could get Grandma to turn off The O'Riley Factor (proof that people actually pay attention to what he has to say). I'm a little worried what they might think if they knew I was advocating including Hanukkah in our Christmas party this year since one of the roommates is Jewish.

How dare you include Hanukkah??? Christmas is the Reason for the season! Why do you hate America? Why do you want to help the terrorists?

Seriously. The "War on Christmas" whining got real old, real fast last year. I'm sure it'll be on its way again this year. Let's brace.

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moonfall86
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I'm just wondering if I spelled it right. Is "Hanukkah" one of the correct spellings?
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ladyknight
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I thought that was a perfectly good way to spell Hanukkah, moonfall. And it sucks that you're dreading what is normally considered to be a fairly happy time of year.

I would seriously think about pointedly saying "Happy Holidays" to those people who complain about the war on Christmas, and "Merry Christmas" to everyone else, but I'm prone to making statements that way.

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Christie
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I think while you have every reason to feel unhappy about the way your family is behaving that it doesn't make much sense to add to the general discomfort by trying to force changes upon them that you must know they will resist. This is their Christmas and you need to accept that in their home it will be celebrated a certain way. Why should they include Hanukah if they don't want to? Or did you mean the Christmas party will be in your own flat? In which case why would your family even need to know about it?

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BluesScale
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Uhm... would those pesky Christians please stop stealing our festival of Yule?

Oh, and have a fun Samhain, Kids

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Artemis
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This is why we need a greater inclusion of Festivus.

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Four Kitties
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quote:
Originally posted by moonfall86:
I'm a little worried what they might think if they knew I was advocating including Hanukkah in our Christmas party this year since one of the roommates is Jewish.

My senior year in college (a loooooooong time ago) I shared a house with four other people. We were one Catholic, one Episcopalian, one Jew, one agnostic whose mother was Mormon and whose father was some sort of Korean animist, and one World Religions major who celebrated everything -- she had a really hard time when one religion's feast days fell in the middle of another religion's fast -- but who was mostly Buddhist.

We set up a Non-Denominational Winter Holiday Shrub in our kitchen and decorated it with pretty much everything: snowflakes, blown eggshells, paper chains, popcorn strings, berries that were from a bush outside that were poisonous but looked nice, little stars made out of tinfoil, etc. It looked great, and everyone got to enjoy it.

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moonfall86
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quote:
Originally posted by Christie:
I think while you have every reason to feel unhappy about the way your family is behaving that it doesn't make much sense to add to the general discomfort by trying to force changes upon them that you must know they will resist. This is their Christmas and you need to accept that in their home it will be celebrated a certain way. Why should they include Hanukah if they don't want to? Or did you mean the Christmas party will be in your own flat? In which case why would your family even need to know about it?

It's a party here at my place. I'm not living with my mother any more. It's been hard for me to break free from worrying about what my parents would think even now, over a year since I left home.
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ottercreek
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I am looking forward to Christmas. I simply don't take part in the commercialized part of it. I get a few people a few things, not out of obligation to "the season" (or the marketplace), but because I like to. I ask for NOTHING, okay, I will take what I get (and NEVER return it)

My gifts might be a small candle to those who I know like them, a rain check for a Chinese food night out after the crowds have dies down, a bottle of wine, flowers, a small toy...But I will never go out and get whatever overpriced THING that "everyone wants" that is destined for yardsale after 5 years in the back of the basement after it has been used all of 2 times.

My favorite part of Christmas, sitting by a fire with the family sharing hot chocolate and old Christmas music going in the background and YES that is very easily done, not some over-romanticized fantasy.

The only way I do the "war on Christmas" is to participate in it without apology and hope that the city will put up a tree or manger, and watch all the religious people haters go berzerk about how fascist it is or some other nonsense. kinda cute in its own way...

Other than that, I am a peaceful man.

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LeaflessMapleTree
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"Chanukah" (with the phlegm-y "ch")and "Hanukkah" are the two most popular ones. But it's a transliteration, so I suppose you can spelling "Hanooca" if that makes you happy.

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Spooky Cactus
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quote:
Originally posted by ottercreek:The only way I do the "war on Christmas" is to participate in it without apology and hope that the city will put up a tree or manger, and watch all the religious people haters go berzerk about how fascist it is or some other nonsense. kinda cute in its own way...

Other than that, I am a peaceful man. [/QB]

It's not 'facist', it's state-sponsoring of religion, which if you're in the US, is unconstitutional. Nor is everyone who opposes state-sponsored religion a 'religious people hater', in fact many are religious themselves.

From my personal standpoint trees are okay because they're only retrospectively connected with Christianiy; they're a general Germanic pagan thing and cultural rather than religious. Mangers or anything else directly related to the Christmas story are another matter.

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DesertRat
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I volunteered for duty this X-Mas to specifically to have an excuse to avoid having to go to Cali to see my extended family... I love my parents a lot, but the rest of my extended family drives me (and my wife) freaking crazy. I'm sick and damned tired of having to defend my career and my participation in the Iraq war to my goddamn grapenut-eating hippie relatives, who seem to want to hold me personally responsible for the invasion. And my wife takes serious offense at how my patronizing, condescending aunts ("successful" career women) treat my Mom, who isn't nearly as educated as them, but is ten times the human being any of them ever will be.

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a rant... just suddenly needed to get that off my chest.

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Nion
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quote:
Originally posted by BluesScale:
Uhm... would those pesky Christians please stop stealing our festival of Yule?

Oh, and have a fun Samhain, Kids

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My thoughts exactly, BluesScale. [lol]

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DawnStorm
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quote:
Originally posted by Amigone201:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by moonfall86:
[qb] Seriously. The "War on Christmas" whining got real old, real fast last year. I'm sure it'll be on its way again this year. Let's brace.

Sure did.

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BeachLife
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I'm not sure which is worse any more:

- The war on Christmas

- The war on the war on Christmas

- The war on the war on the war on Chistmas

I pretty much ignore all of the above. I'm can't see letting the grivances of others affect my holidays.

Beach...we celebrate just Christmas at my house though...Life!

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Joe Bentley
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quote:
Originally posted by DesertRat:
I love my dparents a lot, but the rest of my extended family drives me (and my wife) freaking crazy. I'm sick and damned tired of having to defend my career and my participation in the Iraq war to my goddamn grapenut-eating hippie relatives, who seem to want to hold me personally responsible for the invasion.

I'm getting the same thing. Apparently a meeting was held and I was designated the person who's responsibility it is to explain and/or defend America's foreign policy to anyone I'm less then 8 cousins removed from.

I'm a mid-rank enlisted. When they have the super secret squirrel meetings in some deep super secret bunker somewhere I don't get invited. They don't send a CC on the emails. Why are they asking me?

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