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Silas Sparkhammer
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This isn't as bad as it might be, since I actually do love the bagpipes. Still, the poor wee lad is only the rawest beginner. He's just getting the hang of breathing and keeping the bag at a steady pressure. Right now, I'm listening to the drones kick in, then falter, then sound again.

I hope he stays the course, and learns 'em well. But, till he does, it is gonna be a mite difficult to live with.

Silas ("When on music's mighty pinions...")

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ooooh, boy. Bagpipes. You either love 'em or you hate 'em. I personally love them, but then again I've never heard them played badly. Hope you've got a good supply of tylenol handy.

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I love the bagpipes. The problem is, they are so easy to play poorly. My sympathies until your neighbor learns how to play his!!

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I had a buddy who played bagpipes. He always told me the bagpipes have only one dynamic level and it is about forte fortisi-isi-isi-isimo. Of course, he was acutally good at it...

Sorry Silas!

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Ach, poor you! Best conditions for listening to the pipes involve a distance from the listener of at least 200 yards!

Have you already had to deal with him practising the chanter on its own?

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Silas Sparkhammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Embra:
Ach, poor you! Best conditions for listening to the pipes involve a distance from the listener of at least 200 yards!

Have you already had to deal with him practising the chanter on its own?

Aye...but that's comparatively mild, as if he were taking up the clarinet...

The local high school has a full-on pipe and drum troupe, and, though they're a couple of miles away, sometimes I can hear them thundering away.

I guess you can't support the arts without also supporting their rehearsal!

Silas

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"For $50.00 I will play the bagpipes; for $100.00 I will NOT play the bagpipes."

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PallasAthena
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Oh, wow. I would have been all about that if my high school had something similar. Nothing is quite is stirring to me than a bunch of bagpipers piping and drummers drumming. How cool!

Unfortunately, I would guess that a bit of bad playing goes along with that...

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Eeek. Just adding a bit more sympathy- and glad that he has a neighbor as patient as you. Tylenol vibes sent and hopes he gets a bit of mastery soon. I adore the pipes but the thought of badly played is a wee bit frightening!

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DemonWolf
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Silas, My neighbors will be saying the same thing in a few months. You and they should form a support group!

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A joke I heard somewhere, can't recall where: The Irish introduced bagpipes to the Scots. Eight hundred years later, the Scots still haven't gotten the joke.

Got-why yes, my dad does have a kilt in our clan tartan-Fuzzy

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It is my understanding that one has to practice the chanter for quite some time before one gets to use the rest.

My second thought was lucky you! I love bagpipes.

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(embarrassed) I actually own The Tartan Top Twenty, and played it at nosebleed levels when I was still married (to a Scotsman). To this day I get misty-eyed when I hear a good rendition of "Amazing Grace."

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noysey
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I had a neighbor who studied the bagpipes and he played a tune I have never known the name of but can never forget. He played it over and over but I don't remember it bothering me. It was done without the hum so I guess he was playing the chanter as Turquoise Girl suggests. I assume from the sound that it is a reed instrument with fingering like a song flute. I heard that he joined the army (US) and was made head of a bagpipe band, which the US army had never had before.

Later I lived in Lafayette, CA and there was a bagpipe band that would practise far enough away to have it coming over the hills and it was a real pleasure to hear. I can imagine a lot worse sounds than bagpipes coming from neighbors these days. Like the music where all you hear is the bass bomping along and you have to wonder what you are missing. Grrr.. [Mad]

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Silas Sparkhammer
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quote:
Originally posted by noysey:
Later I lived in Lafayette, CA and there was a bagpipe band that would practise far enough away to have it coming over the hills and it was a real pleasure to hear. I can imagine a lot worse sounds than bagpipes coming from neighbors these days. Like the music where all you hear is the bass bomping along and you have to wonder what you are missing. Grrr.. [Mad]

Grin! Agreement about bomp-bomp bass!

One of the most exquisite, eerie, poignant, and soulful memories I have is of someone playing a solitary bagpipe in the distance, somewhere in Yosemite Valley, just after dark. I get shivers to my spine each time I remember it.

Silas

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quote:
Originally posted by TurquoiseGirl:
It is my understanding that one has to practice the chanter for quite some time before one gets to use the rest.

This is true. However, once one has learned the basics from the chanter, one still has to learn to play the full pipes. It sounds like silas is experiencing an advanced student learn to play the full set.

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Silas .... {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}} [Big Grin]

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Danvers Carew
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There are few sounds more unbearable than bagpipes played badly.

But oh! When they're played well, after years of experience by a seasoned professional piper...well, then...then, my friends, they sound marginally less unbearable.

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We used to have a young man who played the bagpipes in the percussion section of my community band. He also played the bodran and some other traditional celtic instruments, I believe. There's not usually much call for bagpipes in most typical community band music but the conductor found a special medley with a bagpipe solo for him to play. He was having problems during rehearsal getting in on cue but at the concert he had it absolutely perfect!

I got to hear the Black Watch at the Fox Theatre when I was a child - it was incredible and I've loved the pipes ever since.

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quote:
Originally posted by Elkhound:
"For $50.00 I will play the bagpipes; for $100.00 I will NOT play the bagpipes."

What's the difference between a terrorist and a bagpiper? A terrorist has sympathizers.

In other news, one of the highlights of our 2005-2006 season was Orpheus Chamber Orchestra's performance of Peter Maxwell-Davies' An Orkney Wedding, with Sunrise, which ends with a bagpiper walking through the house and up the steps to the stage (he signifies the sunrise). The bagpiper was a Manhattan DA (not Jack McCoy) who looked quite nice in his kilt.

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Silas, I sympathize. I live in a 960 sq ft house with a jazz drummer. He's very good, but...did I mention the 960 sq ft house part? [lol]

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I knew a guy in KC who was an architect and bagpipe player, was part of a whole troupe or whatever the polite word is for a group of bagpipers. For some reason, the owners of a new building thought it would be good for the piper group to march through the building playing, sort of a final test of the construction I guess. I can only imagine the volume of half a dozen pipers marching around inside an office building playing.

He said someone did ask if they could play any quieter, and he gives them the straight look and deadpan, "No. You could stand farther away."

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To this day I get misty-eyed when I hear a good rendition of "Amazing Grace."
No shame there: Amazing Grace has the same effect on me.

A student bought Mr Embra some CD compilation of tartanry once, and he would "pipe" the class in and out of lessons with Amazing Grace. Until they begged him to stop [Big Grin]

I think more people should learn lowland pipes of some variety. Much easier on the ear at close quarters!

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My cousin took up the bagpipes, God save us all, and played them at my sister's wedding. I actually had rather high hopes for the event, since bagpipes played well can grow on you.

Nope. Sucked. I felt bad for my cousin for all the wincing faces.

I don't really think bagpipes should be played indoors under any circumstances, actually. The acoustics aren't quite right for an instrument like that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Silas Sparkhammer:
This isn't as bad as it might be, since I actually do love the bagpipes. Still, the poor wee lad is only the rawest beginner. He's just getting the hang of breathing and keeping the bag at a steady pressure. Right now, I'm listening to the drones kick in, then falter, then sound again.

I hope he stays the course, and learns 'em well. But, till he does, it is gonna be a mite difficult to live with.

Silas ("When on music's mighty pinions...")

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quote:
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To this day I get misty-eyed when I hear a good rendition of "Amazing Grace."
No shame there: Amazing Grace has the same effect on me.

That's the point. As a piper, I love to see tears when I play Amazing Grace. If you're not moved, I'm not doing it right - especially at a funeral.

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Unfortunately, i've heard Amazing Grace so many times, i can no longer stand the song. I actually have to change the channel if it begins on TV. At my funeral, anyone who bgins to play or sing Amazing Grace will be immediately removed.

It has become, for me, the most overused multipurpose generic "emotion" song ever.

I love the bagpipes though. Once, before an early morning football game (we played at a park which had a swamp and a ski hill, plus some other low hills) there was a piper playing. The cool thing was, it was a foggy morning, so you could barely see him standing at the top of one of the hills, and the fog obscured the buildings across the road, really isolating the area.

It was neat.

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Originally posted by Yleemjseg:
Unfortunately, i've heard Amazing Grace so many times, i can no longer stand the song. I actually have to change the channel if it begins on TV. At my funeral, anyone who bgins to play or sing Amazing Grace will be immediately removed.

"New Britain" (the tune usually associated with the poem "Amazing Grace") is one of the few tunes that can be performed in almost any style and still sound good. Jazz, Rock, Folk, Gospel, Classical, Pop or Country--a singer in any of those styles can carry it off. There are some tunes that if performed in a style different than what they were written sound DREADFUL. Think of the Country and Pop singers who try to do the Schubert AVE MARIA or Adam's O HOLY NIGHT for their Christmas albums; or, conversely, have you ever heard an opera singer trying to render a folk song? The effect is often like Marie Antoinette pretending to be a milkmaid.

The only other tune I can think of that is so versitile is "Silent Night".

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DemonWolf
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Yleemjseg:
Unfortunately, i've heard Amazing Grace so many times, i can no longer stand the song. I actually have to change the channel if it begins on TV. At my funeral, anyone who bgins to play or sing Amazing Grace will be immediately removed.

"New Britain" (the tune usually associated with the poem "Amazing Grace") is one of the few tunes that can be performed in almost any style and still sound good. Jazz, Rock, Folk, Gospel, Classical, Pop or Country--a singer in any of those styles can carry it off.
I respectfully dissagree. It can be performed in almost any style, but what stirs the emotion is the wail. The rising and dropping of the tone (we'll ignore the drone of a bagpipe for now). Rendering it in such a way as to make the song seems "happy" seems wrong to me.

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There are some tunes that if performed in a style different than what they were written sound DREADFUL. Think of the Country and Pop singers who try to do the Schubert AVE MARIA or Adam's O HOLY NIGHT for their Christmas albums; or, conversely, have you ever heard an opera singer trying to render a folk song? The effect is often like Marie Antoinette pretending to be a milkmaid.

The only other tune I can think of that is so versitile is "Silent Night".

One on my pet peeves is hearing The Star Spangled Banner sung differently. It just sounds wrong and usually bad to bed.

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