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snapdragonfly
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This is a rant. I am not being particularly logical, nor consistent, nor nice. I'm ranting. I'm bitching, actually. Cause this just annoyes the crap out of me. So bear with me.

I had to go to out for some laundry soap this morning, and it's now the season of the grammar school panhandler. Every time you go to Walmart there's people - KIDS - collecting money for something. Not selling anything, just asking "kin ya gimme some money?" It's always kids. Yesterday at Walmart it was some little boys asked for donations for their "anti drug program." I think it was actually their softball league, because he said something about it, but they figure "anti drugs" is the magic word. I didn't happen to actually have anything smaller than a ten dollar bill on me - he said "we'll take any amount", helpfully, but I explained kindly to him that ten bucks was more than I really was able to spare.

At least he told me what it was for. The little girl out in front of Kmart said to me, and I quote, "Do you want to donate some money?" To which I REALLY had to bite my tongue not to say, "actually, no."

But that is not what I did. I stopped, glanced at her dad comfortably seated behind the table and not doing much of anything, and then asked her my most proper teacher voice, (making sure I projected so that Mr.It-Never-Occured-To-Me-To- Coach-My-Kid-As-To-Polite-Salesmanship could hear me,) "And who are you?" She answered. I said, "And who are you going to give the money to?" she told me, her softball team. I said, "what do they need the money for?" and she told me for their trip or their tournament or whatever it is that apparently they can't plan ahead of to budget for, or their parents can't or won't or just don't pay on their own. Again, I had no change, but I was on my way in, not out, so I told her I'd get some change for her later.

On the way out the same little girl gave me the same little koolaid mustachioed grin (Dad is apparently too busy sitting on his butt to locate a wet wipe, I guess) and said, "Do you wanna give us some money?" I gave her a dollar. Frankly I didn't want to, not because of her, but because of the parents and coaches who are the ones making the kids do this. But I did anyway. I'm a sucker, I guess, and she can't help it she has schnorr parents.

My problem with this is on several levels. For one thing, this asking for money gets old. I know it's for these little kids and blah blah blah. But it's ALWAYS for sports. And it's EVERY weekend. Every dang time I GO to the store. Now me personally - if every piece of sporting equipment in the world were to suddenly be squirted out of the universe like a watermelon seed and never seen again, I could care less. I don't like sports, don't wanna watch or do them and I don't especially want to spend my tax dollars on them, so I kinda feel like they'd be better off taking some nice piano lessons, heh, BUT, I realize that sports keep kids busy and thus they are a good and wholesome thing and some people like them. *shrug* So fine. I'll give a buck.
BUT this is something that these kids are doing as an extra curicular activity on their own and it CHAPS MY ASS that their parents are out there with the little moppets, endorsing this behavior, because quite frankly, what I would REALLY like to do is go up to the parents and say,

"hey! My daughter needs pointe shoes (we go through 4 pairs a year at least) and ribbons and toe pads, would you like to donate some money so I can buy her some?"

Because what is the difference? It costs a LOT of money to be in dance, after it's all said and done. Recitals are murder - recital fee, costumes (anywhere from 2 to 5 and 50 to 100 bucks each) and photos and new toe shoes, plus you gotta get the little prima donna some flowers. We dance moms think we ought to set up a booth in front of Walmart and have our teeny ones out there in their cute little tights and beg passersby for money for leotards.

What is the difference? Well, the fact is that all us dance moms can afford it, some better than others - I could find other things to do with the money, for sure, but I *do* have it. I don't know if these little baseball players (90 percent of the time that is who is asking for money) are ALL from poor, broken, disadvantaged homes and their parents can't pony up the money, or if their parents just figure the whole world owes jocks something for free, or what.

Am I just being a grouchy old bat or is this really out of line? Yes, my own daughter sells Girl Scout cookies, but it's HARD WORK selling cookies, and I have coached her as to how to sell politely - and she does. She's very professional and courteous if she gets a "no", and I don't know just how to explain the difference but I think there is one, between selling something and just asking for money.

But then again I'm always being hit up for useless crap like overpriced wrapping paper and 12.00 ugly plastic mugs which, quite frankly, I WOULD just rather give them some money and not have to pay for their overpriced crap. My son always said it was no fair he had to sell that overpriced Boy Scout popcorn that people just bought out of pity - EVERYONE (almost) loves GS cookies, they pretty much sell themselves most of the time. So - it's not much of a hardship to sell the cookies. People want them.

I don't even know what conclusion I am trying to reach here.

If that stupid dad had spent five minutes telling his little girl to say, "hello, our softball team needs money to go to state, can you help?" (totally within the ability of a child to do)it wouldn't have irritated me so much but -

JEEZ, it's bad enough he's too lazy to pay her way, you'd think he could spend 5 minutes at least teaching her how to panhandle CORRECTLY.

*whew* rant over.

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I feel your pain.Sometimes I avoid going into stores just because there are panhandlers outside.(This is my first time here, so if I mess up let me know)

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Christie
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There is a difference though between panhandling and asking for donations to a good cause. Granted one man's good cause is another man's waste of time, but fair enough at least they think it's a good cause. That said, I agree with you snapdragonfly, they shouldn't just be standing there asking for money. There ought to be a big banner explaining who they are and what the money is for --- and more importantly they should be offering something for that money.

Around here we get the sports teams staked out in front of Canadian Tire or Loblaws most week-ends too but the kids are usually raffling off something or selling chocalate bars. I don't remember ever seeing kids just standing asking for money.

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I get what you're saying. With Scout Cookies you at least get the cookies. I have a difficult time giving $1 to little Timmy just because he's going to a baseball tournament. Lots of parents in other activities from dance to equestrian to show choirs pay their kids expenses or at the least have funraising activities. I don't know why some sports clubs (& probably other non-sport activities) feel they're different & that they can just ask for money.

The Sonics (drive-in fast food joint) around here do fundraisers where they let the kids & parents carhop & keep the tips. I usually round up to the nearest dollar or add an extra $1 on the rare occasions I end up at a Sonic on a fundraising day. If I spent a lot of time at Sonic & was getting hit up every weekend, I'd probably be more hacked.

And I hear you on the dance thing!! I was a little tiny bit happy when I found out DD was unable to dance in her recital because of our vacation plans. I was looking at over $200 in fees, costumes & such due before Christmas & the recital isn't until June!!

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I know exactly how you feel. Parents like that should be ashamed. Most of the time the things they sell aren't worth having, either, so if I decide to help out, I'll just say, "I don't need __________, but here's a little donation." Sometimes I just say, "No thank you." and keep walking, even if they're just asking without selling anything.

Car washes are a big thing around here. At least the kids feel like they're earning the money, and they usually do a good job.

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You can't escape rudeness even with Girl Scouts. The last time they were in front of Kmart, the girls were screaming "BUY SOME GIRL SCOUT COOKIES! BUY SOME COOKIES!" at the top of their lungs to everyone who walked by the entrance.

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Because what is the difference? It costs a LOT of money to be in dance, after it's all said and done. Recitals are murder - recital fee, costumes (anywhere from 2 to 5 and 50 to 100 bucks each) and photos and new toe shoes, plus you gotta get the little prima donna some flowers. We dance moms think we ought to set up a booth in front of Walmart and have our teeny ones out there in their cute little tights and beg passersby for money for leotards.

Its the same with martial arts. The uniforms (sometimes multiple uniforms- in different colors), tournament fees, equipment, testing/certification fees, etc. Yet, my son isn't out there panhandling his way along. We're paying for it. (of course, I could have him out there, busting concrete blocks as intimidation and shake-down any passers-by).

I hate that method from the OP too, though. There were some young teens recently outside our local Walmart, raising money to go somewhere southern and warm for a tournament. They weren't just begging, they were passing out gum and candy if you donated. They were doing a dorky "2, 4, 6, 8, help our team" cheer. One girl had her face painted up and flags with the teams colors in her ponytail. When I was on my way in, they asked if I'd donate, I said I'd have to catch them on the way out, and they remembered. Because when I walked out, they didn't ambush me again, they waited for me.

Those kids aren't so bad. At least they were making an effort instead of just demanding money.


*edited to add a word

*edited again because I'm an idiot tonight.

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I'm going to draw ire now and say I'd rather give to a pan-handler than some child's sports team or camp or band trip (or worse, mission trip). I can't prioritize a stranger's fun and games, even if that stranger is little, over another stranger's food, even if that stranger is adult (and possibly weird).

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Christie
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quote:
Originally posted by Chloe:
I'm going to draw ire now and say I'd rather give to a pan-handler than some child's sports team or camp or band trip (or worse, mission trip). I can't prioritize a stranger's fun and games, even if that stranger is little, over another stranger's food, even if that stranger is adult (and possibly weird).

There is a panhandler that stands near my building and every morning I give him a couple of quarters. I've had people tell me I shouldn't give money to panhandlers because they're just going to buy booze or drugs with it but :shrug: I dunno. I can't give to everyone but I can't not give to some.

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I won't give money to a panhandler. No way in HELL will I give money to a panhandler, especially not when I'm in San Diego or Los Angeles for the day.

I'll buy somebody a cheeseburger or something, but I'm not giving a dude who's OBVIOUSLY stinking drunk (I'm sorry, when your clothes smell like Mad Dog 20/20, I'm not giving you jack or shit), or under the influence of something (I can tell a tweaker from a stoner from someone who is mentally ill, I've had lots of practice with my neighbors, another rant entirely) cash to go buy more alcohol or other pharmaceutical pursuits. It's not happening. Call me cold-hearted and cruel, I don't care.

I will buy Girl Scout cookies, and commiserate with the Cookie Mom (I did that, I hated it, and was the Cookie Mom for the whole damn troop, and wanted to kill the other parents by the time I was done). I won't donate to somebody's soccer program, or softball program, because if I can scrimp and save to put MY kid in sports, or dance, or various school programs, so can the lazy ass parent just sitting there watching the kid panhandle.

But I won't give any money to someone selling crap for their school....with the exception of band and chorus. Band and chorus have boosters, sometimes, and that's basically how they raise money for new uniforms, new music, and for members who can't afford it to go on their trips. My parents could afford the fees that went along with chorus, but not everybody could, and those that couldn't got helped along. I won't give to football or basketball boosters, they get plenty of money from the district because of course the jocks are WAY more important than any pansy music program (I have a lot of ire stored up over this particular subject). And I sure as hell won't buy something, or let my kid fundraise, for the school in general. Hell no. Let them learn to budget better, and stop pouring money into sports, and start putting it into books, and classroom supplies, and other things that are more academically inclined.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chloe:
I'm going to draw ire now and say I'd rather give to a pan-handler than some child's sports team or camp or band trip (or worse, mission trip). I can't prioritize a stranger's fun and games, even if that stranger is little, over another stranger's food, even if that stranger is adult (and possibly weird).

No ire from me. That IMHO, falls under the catagory of 'Not my money so none of my business'. As long as you're not buying child porn or financing Bin Laden, I'm very much into keeping my nose out of others finances.

Its kinda like I don't care if you donate to a vegetarian charity & you probably don't care that I donate to a religious charity. You probably wouldn't ask me to donate to your charity & I won't ask you to donate to mine.

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This is why the store I work at only allows the scouts (both boy and girl) to sell things. But I have noticed the boy scouts are really annoying when they're selling popcorn in thr front of the store. So basically for about 4 tp 6 hours, they repeatedly ask me if I want to buy popcorn. I refuse nicely saying "No thanks, I akready have popcorn at home." And usually its the same kid that asks me over and over. And they tend to block the enternce so when the coustomers are leaving, they can shove a order form in their face as the parents are just sitting there watching.

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Re: panhandlers, some businesses in Pioneer Square in Seattle had a good idea: they provided people with coupons they could give to panhandlers; the coupons were good for free meals. So people could help out the panhandlers without giving them money that they might spend on drugs or booze.

As far as school fundraising goes, by the time my kid was in 2nd or 3rd grade, my feeling was that I'd rather just write the school a check for $50 and have them get it all then buy a bunch of overpriced crap and put money in the pocket of some fundraising company.

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I don't like fundraising unless it's done as a learning experience and for a good cause. This year the elementary SPED department at my school sold fleece scarves in the school colors. One of the paras cut them and fringed them with a rotary, and we made orders, sent them home with the kids, then we sorted, graphed, and inventoried the orders, totaled up our sales, bagged the orders, and delivered them. We used the money for classroom supplies and bought all the kids lunch at McDonalds at our end of year field trip. It was explained in the letter with the order forms that the money would go to the SPED kids, but we didn't have a specific purpose in mind until we saw our totals.

I've ordered from countless band catalogs. Another one I have supported was the local dance studio. A lot of the families here can barely afford to put their kids in dance class, and the kids make little goodie bags that they sell at various holidays. I think the kids need to work for the money I give them.

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Here is where you went wrong:
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Originally posted by snapdragonfly:
...I gave her a dollar...

Don't give if you don't want to. I will NOT give to folks like that. Too easy for the money to be abused.

Just walk by and ignore them.

Note, I have been know to stand out in the front of stores with a silly yellow bib and give away Tootsie Rolls AND have a jar for donations. However, I never ASK for the donations. I actually ask the parents if it is okay for their child to take a Tootsie Roll. If they say they can't give right now, I say, "No problem, have a Tootsie Roll".

Again, if you don't feed the bears, they won't become a problem and have to be shot.

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I have been known to purchase Girl Scout cookies--I don't take them home: too much of a temptation. So I'll give the girls money and tell them to ask the next person out of the store what their favorite GS cookie is and give them a box of that without asking them to donate. It surprises me how many of them will do it, too.

Snapdragonfly, you are right on about the money that goes for sports. I wish I could line up some of my needy little student friends and ask people to give money for pens, notebooks and laptops. Or kids I know who really deserved (and needed) a scholarship to a university, but they weren't part of a local sports dynasty family. I am all for throwing around a ball and making it look like fun, but why can't those of us who like art or reading or writing get cash now and then for our trips to the lake to paint or to fund the research for our novels? Why is the money always about trips for jocks and cheerleaders?

I used to drop a dollar in every bucket for every sports trip/tournament/uniform thing that came a long. Then I met up with a bunch of cheerleaders who were very up front about being from what I KNEW was a very wealthy school in another town --and they were asking for money for a Cheerleader Trip to Europe in front of the grocery store in a less affluent area...and I did not contribute. You want to get someone to finance your trip? Get back to your own hometown and have the taxpayers THERE finance it, but don't expect the family who just had to decide between diapers and baby food to give your money so you can go to EUROPE for fun. Don't stick you decorated coffee can under the nose of the elderly lady who's living on a fixed income. Better yet, go HOME, look through your wardrobe and take a few things to the consignment shop, get a job, save your allowance, give up your lattes...but don't come asking ME to give you my mortgage money so you can go to France.

I will give to the Veterans of Foreign Wars and when they say "Thank you" I make sure I say "No, thank YOU." I hand off cash to abused women's clinics (although there's a group that camps in front of that grocery mentioned above and I can't understand what it is they are actually for...they have a big sign with lots of words in pretty writing that you have to squint at sideways and it still doesn't make sense. And the guy running it has a spiel about "Help us save our women and children from abuse." Not sure who "our women and children" are. He does pretty well. We're all so programmed to hand over cash when someone asks nicely and makes puppy eyes (me included) that I'm guessing Osama bin Laden could probably stand outside the grocery store with a coffee can decorated with pictures of WMD and beheaded soldiers and we'd all drop a quarter in without thinking twice. (That's an exaggeration only to make a point. I would hope we would be astute enough to grab him and hustle him down to the police station.)

Oh dear, I didn't mean to make a long, whining post, but reading through this just got my dander up again. Now I'll have to brush it all down before I can get to sleep.

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In September of 2001, some little neighborhood kids kept coming around trying to sell us baseball cards. This wasn't for any charity other than their own - they admittedly wanted the money to buy ice-cream. They must have stopped by at least 3 times, and each time we said no. They didn't even have a box of baseball cards or anything - the kid was holding just one in his hand, and it was encased in plastic. I kept wondering if he'd stolen it from a parent's collection.

Then, shortly after 9-11, they were back, this time sans baseball cards. They just had a shoe-box and asked for money for the "victims of the World Trade Center." No signage, no mention of Red Cross, nothing. So I called their house - only a teenager at home, who was surprised the rugrats weren't inside. I told her what they'd said, and she confirmed that they weren't collecting for 9-11. The little bastards.

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My daughter (the soon-to-be high school senior) gets those fund-raising things every year for her band trip. The problem is, the paperwork says "do not send children out door-to-door". The instructions basically tell the kids to hit up their families and to have the parents take it to work and annoy co-workers.

There's a couple problems with that- one: Most of my family lives in another town (nearby enough for visits, but not for driving over and begging they order overpriced cheesecakes). Two: her father nor I work outside the home. Heck, even both of my parents are retired. My kid doesn't have a workplace to send this order form to. Besides, even if we did, there'd be several other parents there from the same school, with the same order forms.

Luckily, for the last couple of years, my parents have been paying for my daughter's band trip and we just give her spending cash.

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Wow... I've fundraised a lot over the past few years and I've never acted like any of those horror stories. My mother would kill me if it got back to her. [Wink] Some other post have really brought up some good points though about which groups fundraise, etc. I know that around here it's only ever the swim team and baseball who fundraise, I never see the local dance group or the soccer teams. Just the swim team selling oranges, outside a grocery store so you can imagine how much they sold, and the baseball team selling tickets for something or other that isn't worth the money.

When I went to Greece through my high school, all of us were too young to get a job in order to get our own spending money. So, in addition to getting a birthday card two years that said, "We hope you had fun in Greece, Happy Birthday," we went to local grocery stores and bagged groceries for free, and if people offered a donation we took it and thanked them. We also went through all of our things and went to a flea market. I sold I don't know how many old books.


Because I did that, I tend to look down more on people who just sit around with a bucket and I'm less likely to give a donation. It's not like the businesses in my town won't let you bag groceries, etc. Why do you need to sit there and look pathetic hoping I'll give you money? At least put a basket together or something...

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Originally posted by snapdragonfly:
It costs a LOT of money to be in dance, after it's all said and done. Recitals are murder - recital fee, costumes (anywhere from 2 to 5 and 50 to 100 bucks each) and photos and new toe shoes, plus you gotta get the little prima donna some flowers. We dance moms think we ought to set up a booth in front of Walmart and have our teeny ones out there in their cute little tights and beg passersby for money for leotards.

Around here the dance kids sell crap and stand in doorways collecting money too. Dance kids, cheerleaders, band kids, Key Club... pretty much everybody but the football teams (plenty of money there!) and the academic clubs.

At least when the band collects donations, they put on a mini-concert in front of the store.

If you're wondering why so many are in front of Wal-Mart, it's because WalMart not only allows the kids to be out there collecting donations, they also will match whatever the group collected while in front of the store, up to a certain amount. It's quite a good gig.

(Edited to fix some unintended snarkiness.)

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Originally posted by Morgaine La Raq Star:
Originally posted by Chloe:
I'm going to draw ire now and say I'd rather give to a pan-handler than some child's sports team or camp or band trip (or worse, mission trip). I can't prioritize a stranger's fun and games, even if that stranger is little, over another stranger's food, even if that stranger is adult (and possibly weird).

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No ire from me. That IMHO, falls under the catagory of 'Not my money so none of my business'. As long as you're not buying child porn or financing Bin Laden, I'm very much into keeping my nose out of others finances.
Well, obviously, I would donate to the Al Quaeda Center for Pedophilic Art, but it's not tax-deductible... [Smile]

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I refuse to buy from the fundraising catalogues my kids school sends home. I'm not paying £10 for some daffodil bulbs so the school can get a couple of quid. I also refuse to let me kid participate in the British Heart Foundation sponsored skips. I dont think charities should be using kids like that to raise money.

I do however make sure I go to my kids and niece and nephews school fairs and concerts. I support the young enterprise schemes they do in primary 6-basically draw up a business plan and make and sell goods. I remember doing it myself and it teaches great skills with any profit going to school events. I'm happy to give to the Scouts or any other group who packs my shopping for me or buy a couple of raffle tickets for a kids group.

I think the extra curricular things are important for a kids development. The cost of activities can put a lot of parents off, not due to not caring enough but they genuinely cant afford it.

I've seen a few families with disabled kids basically begging for money too lately in my local paper. The portable oxygen machine to take a kid on a modest holiday I can see people giving for, but I cant see people giving the several thousand for a family to take their autistic kid plus parents and siblings for a long holiday in Disney, Florida so the kid can swim with dolphins again.

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I have asked for money from people before, but in no way did I act like some of these children (and adults!). A few select members of my chorus were invited to Puerto Rico for this November for a week to participate in a choral festival, do our own concerts, etc. The trip costs close to a grand, and most college students cannot afford $1000 besides tuition, books, and other stuff.

So, being the fundraising organizer for this trip, I had two people stand at every enrance to out performance hall before our Spring Concert in our beautiful chorus robes. This was my exact spiel, complete with smiles, "How are you"s, and "No obligations at all!"

"Hello! How are you this evening? Would you like to donate to help members of the Cabrini College Chorus afford our trip to Puerto Rico this November? Absolutely no obligations!"

While it may not have been perfect, we had a lot of inquiries about the trip. We also got a lot of compliments on how we handled the fundraising and how we didn't abuse everyone who walked past us.

In my opinion, there's a right way and a wrong way to fundraise.

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