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Dawnshadow
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So this quarter I enrolled in a human sexuality class at my college. Unfortunately, the professor is the worst professor I've ever had. She didn't seem that bad at first-- a bit flightly and shy, which, given the subject, is a Bad Thing, but then we got the first test.

Sample questions: True/False:

quote:
"The vagina is the birth canal as well as the place where the penis is contained."
With the mental image of retractable penises dancing in my head, I answered 'false.' According to the professor, the answer was true. Never mind that a "container" implies where something is STORED, not to mention my openly lesbian classmate's protests....

quote:
"According to Freud, everything is sexual."
"True," but, in the video we watched on him, one of the quotes was that "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Hence, not EVERYTHING is sexual, hence, this question is technically false.....

Multiple Choice:

quote:
"Of the following cultures, which one has the most difficulty with womens' sexuality?"

a. Africa
b. The Middle East
c. India
d. All of the Above

...Since when did an entire CONTINENT have a single culture? They're not even all countries or reigons; there's a continent, a reigon, and a country....

(The "correct" answer was D.)

Worst part? The professor didn't even justify her "answers," just said "it was curved." I would've got a better grade with clear questions than I got post-curve, because I somehow managed to guess wrong on every badly-worded question on there. So, after talking to a classmate (an open lesbian who I'd estimate to be in her forties; this is important later on) I decided to go to the ombudsman and bring up the test. Unfortunately, I didn't have the test on me at the time, but fortunately, I have him for another class this quarter and he knows I'm smrt. He said to talk to her, but her office hours are during another class of mine and I had the feeling that it wouldn't do any *good,* so I decided to just let it go and give her a bad evaluation at the end of the quarter.

Two weeks later-- earlier today-- after class, I was packing up my laptop that I take notes on when my professor the ombudsman walked up to me, said 'hi,' and explained that he'd been there the whole time observing. (I was almost late, so I'd not noticed his presence.) After class, I ended up talking with the lesbian woman for a bit and found out *why* he was there. Appearantly, I hadn't been the only one complaining about the class, and now the "vagina contains the penis" thing is the laughingstock of campus. (Not only that, but rumor has it that the professor hasn't even read the $100 textbook [which, fortunately, is very well-written and is more informative than the lectures; I plan on reading what the class doesn't cover this summer] and is doing this off the top of her head, which is why so much of it is either stupidly obvious or just plain wrong.) The professor appearantly thought it was the lesbian woman who had complained to the higher-ups (she hadn't, actually; she's only on campus two days a week, making scheduling appointments a bit difficult, and was going to let it slide) and sent a message through the school that she had been "threatening" in class. She does contradict the professor when the professor is wrong, but she's a great woman and a wonderful person to have in class. However, said lesbian has about 50 protections against various discrimination, including age and orientation, and she's an adult honors student who already has a couple degrees and is only in class for personal enrichment, AND her partner is a lawyer.

I think this is going to be the professor's last class here. And if not, I'm telling everyone I know to stay far away from her classes. I just feel sad because the class would've been AWESOME with a good professor. ;;

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When I saw the "vagina is a container for the penis", I just couldn't help but think to myself, "so, if the penis isn't in its proper container, will it shrivel up and go bad?"

Dawnshadow, we've all had some pretty awful professors in our day. I'm glad you were able to successfully do something about yours.

Tow "but where's the container's lid?" knie

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Are you sure she's a professor? She might be an instructor. There's a rather complicated structure of rank involved in post-sec teaching that a lot of students aren't aware of. It's possible she's part time and being paid peanuts, which isn't an excuse, but might be an explanation.

In any event, if I were her, I'd switch to using the textbook's testbank. She clearly doesn't have much of a knack for writing a clear exam question.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dawnshadow:

quote:
"Of the following cultures, which one has the most difficulty with womens' sexuality?"

a. Africa
b. The Middle East
c. India
d. All of the Above


That is one of the most stupid questions I've ever seen.

OPTION 'd', how can ALL of the above have the MOST difficulty with womans' sexuality?

And, like you say, I can't imagine all Africans or Indians or people from the Middle East have the same attitude towards womans' sexuality. I'm not sure of the figures but that has to be about 1/4 of the world's population!

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I have to wonder how she wound up teaching that class. For example, English is my subject matter, and even at the beginning of my career, I could teach correctly "off the top of my head" in an English class. However, I also have a history endorsement, due to some classes I took in college just out of pure interest; I never took any methods courses, just survey courses. Last year, because of a last-minute shake up in staff, my principal begged me to teach history. I didn't want to, and even told him I'd probably be bad at it, but I was the only one, so I became a history teacher. I totally sucked at it. It wasn't my thing, it was way outside my comfort zone, and no matter how hard I tried, I still sucked.

Is this prof new? Is this her academic area? Does she have a general habit of incompetence, or is it only in this class? I've met profs who are amazing academics, but terrible teachers.

It's so disappointing when a class should be awesome, and then just isn't. I once had a class called "Education of the Culturally Different." Stupid name, but the idea was to examine educational methods and learning styles of people from a variety of cultures, mostly Native American because of where we are geographically. The teacher was a white woman who was married to a Native American man and had two sons. She was a liason between the two cultures and had participated on a number of boards and committees to try to help solve some of the terrible racial tensions that we have. Sounded great to me, but then she spent the whole semester blabbing about how her kids got picked on by Native kids in res schools and by white kids in "town" schools and how her husband's family hated her because she was white and how her dad had never seen his grandsons because he disapproved of her marriage, blah blah blah. It was all one big pointless soapboxy rant about her life. I really learned nothing about educating the [snark] culturally different. [/snark]

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quote:
Originally posted by Towknie:
When I saw the "vagina is a container for the penis", I just couldn't help but think to myself, "so, if the penis isn't in its proper container, will it shrivel up and go bad?"

Some guys seem to think so! [lol]

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I've seen some darn bad questions, but those about take the cake. [Eek!]

Container, eh? I know I left my plastic wrap somewhere... [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Dawnshadow's obnoxious prof:
quote:
"The vagina is the birth canal as well as the place where the penis is contained."

As a grammar/ word nerd, I feel it is my duty to point out that, at least from a linguistics point of veiw, your prof is kinda/ sorta right.

I was reading an excerpt from the book cunt: a declaration of independence by Betty Dodson, and in it, she writes that the word 'cunt' is originally a word meaning 'woman' while 'vagina' is derived from a word meaning 'sheath' that is, a receptacle for a sword/ penis.

not that i'm defending your prof, definitly not, but I just wanted to expose my inner nerdiness. that is, I don't agree with the sentiment, just that I love entomologis

also- i'll try to find the excerpt as well.

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And here I was thinking - they're calling tighty-whiteys vaginas now?

Wait. That doesn't sound right... [fish]

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Please refrigerate penis after opening? [fish]

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Dawnshadow, btw, how did your grades turn out in this class?

Not that it really has anything to do with anything, I'm just curious. I mean, from the OP, it seems as if some higher-ups are taking the students' complaints seriously. I never had anything like this happen to me in college so I wondered if it affected your grade or not?

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quote:
Originally posted by MissE:
Dawnshadow, btw, how did your grades turn out in this class?

Not that it really has anything to do with anything, I'm just curious. I mean, from the OP, it seems as if some higher-ups are taking the students' complaints seriously. I never had anything like this happen to me in college so I wondered if it affected your grade or not?

The class is based on attendance, 2 exams and a paper. I got a 92 on the first exam post-curve, even though I missed at least a third of the multiple-choice questions through bad wording; I must not've been the only one confused. (The short essay section was much easier.) The second test and apaer haven't been turned in yet, but since my other major is english I'm not too worried about the paper.

So they're not as bad as they would be without a curve, but they'd be better with clearer questions....

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I wish higher ups at my old campus would listen, we complained about a lecturer last year, she ran the class as an intensive for a week, no problem there, until we got there and she annouced that each afternoon we were to just carry on with the activities as she would need to go early to sort stuff out because she left the country the day after the intensive finished. We never got feedback on these activities, were left with no on campus support for the semester and then when the exam came out, she changed everything that it was said we would need to know. this was the third year in a row she had been complained about and they still didn't do anything. She had 3 separate catergoroes of complaints about her last year from my campus alone.
ETA- i just remembered the lecturer who ran his subject as an external subject, no student was to use any other research other than the readings he had chosen for the book of readings, then when it came to the exams you had 24 hours to complete them and email them back, and you literally needed to work for the whole 24 hours solid to complete them, one question was a fill in the blank, and it had to be the exact word from the readings, meaning you had to re read the whole 300 plus pages to find that one word.

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The human sexuality class at the college I attended (a Jesuit university) was taught by a nun.

I didn't take it because they didn't offer a lab section.

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quote:
The human sexuality class at the college I attended (a Jesuit university) was taught by a nun.
I'm not sure I've ever laughed this hard before. [lol]

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quote:
Originally posted by Joe Joe Joey Junior Shabadoo:
not that i'm defending your prof, definitly not, but I just wanted to expose my inner nerdiness. that is, I don't agree with the sentiment, just that I love entomologis

I think you mean that you like "etymology." Entomology is the study of insects.

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How long has this person been teaching?

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quote:
Originally posted by MizzyLou:
Is this prof new? Is this her academic area? Does she have a general habit of incompetence, or is it only in this class? I've met profs who are amazing academics, but terrible teachers.
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This is the end of her first year at my campus and she's young enough to be in her first year or three of teaching; yes, she was hired to teach the clinical psychology courses and this class is technically in that area for some reason; I don't know for sure, but I've been mostly concentrating on finishing my gen ed classes this year so I'm not in touch with the latest psychology gossip and I'd not thought to see if she has anything published. (That would be a good idea, though....)
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I keep trying to contain it, but it keeps escaping. I must need different bait.

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Would you really take a sexuality class with a lab section that was taught by a nun?

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quote:
Would you really take a sexuality class with a lab section that was taught by a nun?
Well, perhaps she was a Sperm Reciver Superior?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jenn:
I keep trying to contain it, but it keeps escaping. I must need different bait.

Mine seems to be malfunctioning. How do I get one in there in the first place?

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"Do not use penis if past safety seal is not intact"
[fish]

That has got to be some of the worst worded test questions I've ever seen! Never thought of my vagina as rubbermaid before [Smile]

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There are several things seriously wrong with that test. (edited because I didn't read the whole OP... I have to read more carefully)
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quote:
Originally posted by mrs.hi-c cream:
"Do not use penis if past safety seal is not intact"
[fish]

That has got to be some of the worst worded test questions I've ever seen! Never thought of my vagina as rubbermaid before [Smile]

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Maybe she heard "The box a penis comes in" joke and decided it was fact?

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What was this prof's name, Mackey?

Dawn--now the man puts his penis in the---; the man puts his penis in the---; the man puts his penis in the---; hmmmm, now where the hell did I put the damn thing?--Storm

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[lol] DawnStorm

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Does the vagina contain the penis like firefighters contain the fire?

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Please, lets not turn this into glurge, dispite it's having some of the elements that go into glurge.

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quote:
Originally posted by mrs.hi-c cream:
"Do not use penis if past safety seal is not intact"
[fish]

That has got to be some of the worst worded test questions I've ever seen! Never thought of my vagina as rubbermaid before [Smile]

Put your own joke about "burping the lid" here.

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quote:
Originally posted by DawnStorm:
Please, lets not turn this into glurge, dispite it's having some of the elements that go into glurge.

OK, NOW you just made that into a challenge! (insert evil laugh)

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I've seen poorly-worded questions before, but this is probably the worst example.

A container for the penis? Wouldn't that be called "underpants?" If I was storing one in my vagina, I would have a lot of trouble walking.

"Contained" is a poorly-chosen word. "The place where the penis is inserted during intercourse" (perhaps they should specify "heterosexual" intercourse) would be a better choice.

The Freud question is inaccurate. Freud attributed some human behavior to aggression, not sex. Also, it is not known for certain if he actually said the cigar quote.

And you're right about the culture one. "Africa," "the Middle East" and even "India" are all made up of many different cultural groups.

My own story about poorly-worded questions:
I took American history in my junior year of high school. The question (a short-essay question) was something to the effect of "What was Franklin D. Roosevelt's greatest political achievement?" I wrote about the various social programs FDR implemented to combat poverty during the Depression era. I got the question wrong. The "correct" answer was turning black voters to the Democratic party. My teacher's reasoning was that I wrote about a social, not a political issue. Sounds like a stupid technicality of semantics. And "greatest achievement" seems to me like a matter of opinion anyway. (but this was an "I'm right and that's it" kind of teacher.)

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Originally posted by kjbrasda:
Would you really take a sexuality class with a lab section that was taught by a nun?

Only if she graded on a curve.

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