quote:I (like just about everyone else with an e-mail account) receive lots of spam offering to sell "incest photos,"
I have 5 email accounts and I've never gotten incest photo spam. Lots of other porn spam sure, but not incest photos.
I agree with what YudanTaiteki said. Based on a porno I saw recently, some people get off on a cavemen stumbling through a time portal and banging modern women. I doubt most of the watchers of said porno thought the guy was really a caveman, but were able to pretend for as long as it took.
Time-traveling cavemen have nothing on the hotness factor of "Playmate of the Apes" (No, seriously, it's the best! Invite some friends over, make popcorn, etc)
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quote:Based on a porno I saw recently, some people get off on a cavemen stumbling through a time portal and banging modern women. I doubt most of the watchers of said porno thought the guy was really a caveman, but were able to pretend for as long as it took.
Sure, but in that case, the actor is at least initially clothed and made up to look like (our conception of) a caveman. It's not so easy to put someone in clothing that will make him/her visually identifiable as someone else's relative, especially when they're going to be featured in still photos that include little or no clothing.
quote:It may be that for people who have that sort of fetish, even people acting as if they are brother and sister is good enough.
How do people "act as if they are brother and sister" in still photos?
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I think they ment "good enough" to mean that they look alike enough to appear to be related.
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Live-action "incest photos" I suppose require a suspension of belief, despite how obvious the people in the pictures are not brother/sister/father/mother/etc. Depending on the talent of the artist, incest drawings would be closer to the "real thing" since they could draw the people participating in the acts similiar and such like brother and sister and all.
I hope that made sense because I'm not feeling well.
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I would have assumed that the incest label was to imply either that at least one of the participants was under age, or that the two had been doing it together when at least one was under age. My assumption is that it is a polite way of labelling photos for pedo- and hebephiles.
YMM, of course, V
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quote:Originally posted by Michael Cole: I would have assumed that the incest label was to imply either that at least one of the participants was under age, or that the two had been doing it together when at least one was under age. My assumption is that it is a polite way of labelling photos for pedo- and hebephiles.
YMM, of course, V
I guess there would be some cross-over but on the odd "incest porn" site I've stumbled across it was obvious that everybody was over-age.
From what I could tell, in some cases at least it was a marketing label that's apparently more appealing than "ugly people".
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quote:Originally posted by snopes:
quote:It may be that for people who have that sort of fetish, even people acting as if they are brother and sister is good enough.
How do people "act as if they are brother and sister" in still photos?
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I think they ment "good enough" to mean that they look alike enough to appear to be related.
My sister and I look nothing alike....
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quote:Originally posted by Nocturnal Goddess: The Unpunny Joke: ... often porn sites will have a thumbnail for each gallery (lesbians, teens, anal, bondage, whatever).
Frequently the thumbnail for the incest gallery will say that they have proof. I assume this means driver's licenses, or similar ID, showing their last names and perhaps a part of their street address.
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I have never seen any incest porn, but I suppose you could suggest a family relationship even in a still photo: Girl in catholic school girl uniform holding a report card with all F's is being spanked by older man Big orgy scene and everyone is wearing a t-shirt that says "Smith Family Reunion" If it were a series of pictures it would be even easier to tell a story of incest without words. And I agree that snope's current avatar seems creepily suited to this topic!
quote:It may be that for people who have that sort of fetish, even people acting as if they are brother and sister is good enough.
How do people "act as if they are brother and sister" in still photos?
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By having people who post the pics entitle the thread something like "me and my sister." Or "brother and his two sisters."
Neither has to be true. It's all in the fantasist's suspension of disbelief.
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It's like a lot of kinky sex, much of the "scene" is in the person's imagination. All the photos have to do is feed the existing fantasy by claiming to show incest and maybe having a few words along the lines of "after watching my sister shower ...." to help the viewer's fantasy.
I kept receiving spams about teen-with-grandparent action (mind you, these were the oldest teens and youngest grandmothers I'd ever seen ).
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To jump in, the incest fetish has a lot to do with domination (not to be confused with BDSM).
Typically, it's a male dominating a younger female.
As someone who works closely with porn (shut your yaps! I don't make it, I don't star in it, I don't like it very much. I just work in a company the deals in porn. And no, we DON'T spam), I come across "incest" porn on a daily basis.
Typically, this type of porn is older and includes a storyline as opposed to newer porn which is considered "Gonzo" in style. That is, just jump into the sex without any set up.
The "Incest" porn plays to the fantasy consumer who wants to believe this kind of taboo is happening right in front of him or her.
We (meaning my company) always reject incest porn since we have internal rules banning it. But it's not really incest. It's always (I have yet to see otherwise) an older male, masquerading as a brother or "Daddy" (in fact, there are several titles called "Who's your daddy?" and varients of) seducing an innocent, virginal, uncorrupted young sibling, daughter, or cousin.
The male *always* mentions how he's lusted after her for ages and just can't handle it anymore. The female always says no but is overtaken with passion and lust.
It's all about domination, albiet not with whips and leather.
As for the look of the actors, the only thing that matters is that the male is older and the female is younger.
They don't have to look the same. The script handles that. If they look remotely similar, they're siblings. If they look immensely different, they're cousins. Baddabing.
And for the Older woman younger male, there's a grouping for that too. It's called MILF. There are some older titles where the older female seduces her son or younger cousin, but these are rare. Usually, the incest with an older female is with another female, usually the daughter. All you need there is a 30-40 actress and a 20 year old actress. Much easier than Male/Female incest fantasies.
Errr, anyway, uh.........
yeah.
The funniest porn title I ever saw was called "Grannies, Trannies, and a Midget."
ETA: Stupid fat fingers, edited for some typos and clarification
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I have not. But did the puppets have sex with REAL people or other puppets? Eh?
Let My Puppets Come have puppets doing the deed with flesh and blood humans.
Kind of like Meet the Feebles....
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I've seen incest porn pics where the two participants show their driver's licenses. I'm still not convinced, though.
I've also seen pics where there are twins, and they are probably real twins, but they don't actually have relations with each other...they both do the same guy, or they just strip next to each other.
Most of the time, it's just an older/younger pairing who aren't related.
We're told that incest is really common in the real world, so we expect there to be at least some genuine photos of it. Plus, I think most people have had fantasies about family members at some point, so they can relate to the material on some level.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: you could take pictures of just about anybody and claim they're "incest photos,"
There is a large trend currently in internet porn sites featuring "MILFs". The same holds true, as they could take a picture of just about any woman and claim she's a mother.
I don't think the reality really matters to those that find those fantasies as exciting. They choose to believe what they want to believe.
It's really not that different than two people role playing in their love life. Yes, on a logical level I know that my spouse is not actually my school teacher, and that I am not actually in detention...but I'll take the spanking anyways.
(Oops...perhaps that was too much information)
quote:Is there a segment of the porn audience that really looks at sexually explicit photos of strangers one way, but if those same pictures are identified as "incest photos," they suddenly think, "Wow, they're brother and sister -- that's HOT!"
To answer simply...yes.
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The "worst porn movie titles" list has me laughing so hard I had to stop to breathe I want to print it out and take it to the video store.
ETA: "WHITE MEN CAN'T IRON ON BUTT ROW " I must rent that. I just can't imagine.
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Trust me, Snopes-- When one fixes PCs and Macs for a day job, and has a regular music gig on the weekend, one learns that there is an audience for just about anything imaginable. (shudder)
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That reminds me... just what aspect of PC fixing involves going through someone's collection of image files?
Am I going to have to delete my blueprints for a Doomsday device before I let a repairman near my compy?
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: you could take pictures of just about anybody and claim they're "incest photos,"
There is a large trend currently in internet porn sites featuring "MILFs". The same holds true, as they could take a picture of just about any woman and claim she's a mother.
I beleive the term MILF has been mutated from "Mother I like to NFBSK" to "Woman old enough to be somebody's mother I like to NFBSK"
I mean technically, even 20 year old's can be called MILF.
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quote:Originally posted by First of Two: just what aspect of PC fixing involves going through someone's collection of image files?
The part where you recover files for restoring them to a new computer or where you're a forensic computer technician gathering evidence for a trial.
I don't count the latter, as it's "Investigative repair" and obviously they're supposed to be looking for something.
But what part of recovery involves looking at the files? Whenever I've seen operations involving files (like virus scanning and such), all you see is a quick flash of the filename.
So if the freak in question is smart enough to change the filename from "pigNFBSKer30.jpg" to "pgf30.jpg" what would lead anyone to have a look at it?
Or is it just that there are a lot of stupid/lazy freaks?
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Lets face it, if you don't expect that some computer repairmen get damn nosy with the systems they work on, you need to be more careful. Hell, I'm sure that half of the porn they own the took from client's computers. That pic of you and your SO might be on his wallpaper.
quote:Originally posted by Donovan Ravenhull: Lets face it, if you don't expect that some computer repairmen get damn nosy with the systems they work on, you need to be more careful. Hell, I'm sure that half of the porn they own the took from client's computers. That pic of you and your SO might be on his wallpaper.
Advice for being careful:
Don't allow ANY Instant Messaging client to start on boot.
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quote:Originally posted by Donovan Ravenhull: Lets face it, if you don't expect that some computer repairmen get damn nosy with the systems they work on, you need to be more careful.
Yeah, just ask Gary Glitter!
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quote:Originally posted by Donovan Ravenhull: Lets face it, if you don't expect that some computer repairmen get damn nosy with the systems they work on, you need to be more careful. Hell, I'm sure that half of the porn they own the took from client's computers. That pic of you and your SO might be on his wallpaper.
Advice for being careful:
Don't allow ANY Instant Messaging client to start on boot.
Maybe I should move this post over to Techno, but since we're here anyway.....
Last time I installed a new version of Yahoo Instant Messenger (it's the IM my mother has, so I need to be able to match up with her), it decided it WILL start on boot no matter how or how many times I tell it otherwise. Anyone know how to outwit it on that subject?
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quote:Originally posted by Mad Jay: I beleive the term MILF has been mutated from "Mother I like to NFBSK" to "Woman old enough to be somebody's mother I like to NFBSK"
I mean technically, even 20 year old's can be called MILF.
I think the implication of "Mother I'd like to fuck" has always been "A friend's mother I'd like to fuck" or "A woman old enough to be my mother I'd like to fuck", rather than simply "A woman who has given birth I'd like to fuck".