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I was pretty sure we'd discussed these photos here before, but I couldn't find a link.

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These photos are of the BaxGlobal plane that had a run in with 'Alberta
Hail' last week...The pilot managed to return and land at the Calgary
airport. This damage was inflicted upon the plane 5 minutes into the flight
after takeoff from Calgary. After managing to somehow bring the plane to a
safe landing, the pilot....QUIT !!! No shit, he basically got out of the
Cockpit and said..." I quit !!!"
Unreal !!!

Last night circa 2300 our BAX aircraft flight 705BX encountered severe weather over Alberta Canada. The aircraft was cruising at 35,000 feet when it encountered tennis ball sized hail. The pictures below show some of the damage. All landing lights were destroyed, as was the radar.
Amazingly, the engines continued to work. The crew was forced to make a "blind" emergency landing. Upon safe return to the ground the first officer and flight engineer quit. It is expected that the aircraft is a total loss as its structural integrity has been compromised.

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That isn't a BAX Global plane. The plane in the photos has the color scheme for Capital Cargo International.
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This site posted the pictures and received the following comment from someone claiming to be the pilot:

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Dear Pilotguy71, The aircraft was is not a BAX aircraft. It was not flight 705BX. It was not in cruise flight. It was not at 35,000 feet. There was no way to measure the size of the hail much less compare it to sporting equipment. Only half of the landing lights were destroyed. Not only did we not make a "Blind" emergency landing we don't know what a one is. The Flight Engineer and I did not quit. And the aircraft was not a total loss. Pretty much the only thing you got right is that it was over Alberta, Canada. Please do some research next time.


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Its a cargo converson since all the windows are plugged. Its a older model plane like a 727. With those picture and it being dark it would take me some time to figure it out.

Anyways, definetly looks like hail damage. This is why they try and avoid thunder storms. It will be expencive to repair but not as expecive as scrapping the whole airplane.

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I agree with the supposed pilot above, the damge does not seem that severe. Sure, the windows took some hits (although one of them looks all right), as did the landing lights (and probably the position lights as well). The nose looks bad, but remember that it's only thin plasic covering over the radar antenna, so it will not take much to break it. Some sheet metal should be replaced, but it's not enough damage to endanger the aircraft.

This will cost some money to fix, but it did not endanger the aircraft.

The main risk it is probably engine damage, but modern turbofan engines are surprisingly robust.

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quote:
Originally posted by Singing in the Drizzle:
Its a cargo converson since all the windows are plugged. Its a older model plane like a 727. With those picture and it being dark it would take me some time to figure it out.

Hint: Look at the eyebrow windows and the rear-mounted engines...

It's a 727.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt H.:
quote:
Originally posted by Singing in the Drizzle:
Its a cargo converson since all the windows are plugged. Its a older model plane like a 727. With those picture and it being dark it would take me some time to figure it out.

Hint: Look at the eyebrow windows and the rear-mounted engines...

It's a 727.

Thanks I was pertty sure it was a 727, but it was late and I did not wish to wrong or spend time looking it up. I did not get the window when look at the picture but I did see the Kruger Flaps and was pertty sure 727s had then, not DC-9s.
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More specificly, it's a 727-20, tail number N708AA. This website seems to have contacted the pilot and gotten the real story. According to that, the a/c is back in service.

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I'm a little curious how the left-side windscreen didn't appear to take any damge. It looks like the hail struck and damaged the front projection of the aircraft more or less uniformly except for the few square feet around the pilot's windscreen.

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I'm a little curious how the left-side windscreen didn't appear to take any damge. It looks like the hail struck and damaged the front projection of the aircraft more or less uniformly except for the few square feet around the pilot's windscreen.
The wind can make it come slightly from one side, which makes a huge difference in angle. It's also important to remember that a windscreen is much weaker after it's been broken, so perhaps the broken one just took one exceptional hail, then the rest damaged the already broken glass with smaller hits that an undamaged glass would just have shrugged off.

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quote:
Originally posted by Singing in the Drizzle:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt H.:
quote:
Originally posted by Singing in the Drizzle:
Its a cargo converson since all the windows are plugged. Its a older model plane like a 727. With those picture and it being dark it would take me some time to figure it out.

Hint: Look at the eyebrow windows and the rear-mounted engines...

It's a 727.

Thanks I was pertty sure it was a 727, but it was late and I did not wish to wrong or spend time looking it up. I did not get the window when look at the picture but I did see the Kruger Flaps and was pertty sure 727s had then, not DC-9s.
The clue was in the in-cockpit photo! 1-2-3 !!

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That is why we are trying to get an A-10 as our new storm penetration aircraft...

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