quote:Wouldn't there still be a nail if it were a thumb? The skin at the underside looked to me to be the beginning(?) of the scrotum. The wrinkles and skin don't appear to be that of the web of a hand. And to me the hair stubble looks more like a penisy area than a knuckle area.
If a body part is that mangled, don't expect the surroundings to look exactly normal.
quote:Perhaps it was a drunk and/or homless person who took a leak out in the cold and passed out before putting Peter back where he belonged?
Frostbite don't work that way. You wouldn't have such a clear line between damaged and undamaged flesh.
Besides, if it's that cold, Peter tends to shrink and crawl back in on his own.
Could it be that the body part has been dipped/covered in some hot liquid? I'm not talking boiling water, I'm talking molten metal or burning oil or something like that. That would explain why the damage is so deep, as well as why it's so local. Napalm splat while taking a leak?
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This image shows frostbite in fingertips with a fairly clear line between damaged and undamaged flesh. The thumb especially seems to show damage similar to that in the OP photo.
Most websites on frostbite suggest that it can occur in the genitals as well as fingers/toes, ears and nose.
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quote:Originally posted by Troberg: Besides, if it's that cold, Peter tends to shrink and crawl back in on his own.
Hey, that IS shrinkage for some of us.
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quote:Wouldn't there still be a nail if it were a thumb? The skin at the underside looked to me to be the beginning(?) of the scrotum. The wrinkles and skin don't appear to be that of the web of a hand. And to me the hair stubble looks more like a penisy area than a knuckle area.
If a body part is that mangled, don't expect the surroundings to look exactly normal.
quote:Perhaps it was a drunk and/or homless person who took a leak out in the cold and passed out before putting Peter back where he belonged?
Frostbite don't work that way. You wouldn't have such a clear line between damaged and undamaged flesh.
Besides, if it's that cold, Peter tends to shrink and crawl back in on his own.
Could it be that the body part has been dipped/covered in some hot liquid? I'm not talking boiling water, I'm talking molten metal or burning oil or something like that. That would explain why the damage is so deep, as well as why it's so local. Napalm splat while taking a leak?
IMO the area doesn't look abnormal- in weighing two of the options open that were brought up (and what are IMO the two that are most likely-thumb vs. penis) I said that it looked more one than the other.
As for peeing outside in the cold, while shrinkage may occur, I doubt it would also result in the penis making it's way back inside one's pants. Sometimes it seems to hvae a mind of it's own but I doubt that it's that good;-)
From the links I've seen above, frostbite at least in some cases, leaves a similar result as in the OP. Perhaps not in all cases, maybe you had specific cites in mind supporting your comment?
As far as a burn via oil or metal, I would think there would be burns or blisters extending beyond the drstically affected area. That's a case where a clean line would be even less unlikely IMO.
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OK, it occurs to me the active topics space should come in the front of this paragraph. I think I left enough space for active topics, but I'll type another sentence just in case I didn't leave enough space.
Could it be someone who tried to use an elastrator to do a home penectomy? Highlight below for NFBSK explanation, but don't say I didn't warn you.
NFBSK NFBSK NFBSK Elastrators are devices used in castration-- basically a strong rubber band that cuts off blood flow to the testicles until they die from lack of blood circulation. These are normally considered a veterinary tool, but some folks who choose castration have been known to use this method. (cite)
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ETA: more active topics space
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If it's a finger, that's some weird hair pattern around there...
Thanks for the earworm LittleDuck! Now I'm even more annoyed that my "You Eediot!" cassette has been missing... I wonder if they have it in CD form...
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quote:Originally posted by Brillo Bee: Could it be someone who tried to use an elastrator to do a home penectomy? Highlight below for NFBSK explanation, but don't say I didn't warn you.
Not sure how long it would have taken for a penis to get in the condition in the OP under those conditions, but I assume he would have had to seek medical attention long before it got to that point had he been trying to do that- say for lack of ability to pee.
Then again who knows how long the interior was functionable? Unfortunately I've become quite curious about this one... Posts: 687 | From: Grand Rapids, Michigan | Registered: Jul 2005
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I'm no expert on the device, but the cite I gave in the post above says that, when used on the testicles, irreversable tissue damage can be done within an hour. I did a little more Googling and found that, as I thought might be the case, these are used in penectomies. (NSFBSK, NSFW cite) Eek!
The thing I have no idea about is what the penis would look like if the procedure went wrong, say if the band wasn't tight enough or if it was removed too soon. I thought of the elastrator simply because the line of damage in the OP seems to be quite sharp.
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ETA: Not to say that medical professionals use these in penectomies, but rather individuals who wish to undergo a penectomy and cannot or prefer to not involve medical professionals.
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quote:Originally posted by Brillo Bee: The thing I have no idea about is what the penis would look like if the procedure went wrong, say if the band wasn't tight enough or if it was removed too soon.
Seems like it could have been someone who did something like that then took it off thinking it would rebound and then waited a wee bit too long in seeking attention...? With the things people try for kicks these days who knows? Jackass-type stunt gone wrong?
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It's hard for me to believe that's a penis....I agree that it's probably a thumb. But I'm not a doctor, so what do I know?
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Maybe it was a cock ring + recreational Viagra accident?
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quote:Originally posted by Angel With Wax Wings: It's hard for me to believe that's a penis....I agree that it's probably a thumb. But I'm not a doctor, so what do I know?
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I looked again and can see "thumbiness" of it (it even look like that could be the nail just at the end of the tweezers) but it's just a very odd position for a hand to be in if it were a thumb. The fingers would be normally pointing pretty close to the same position as the thumb but if this was a thumb, the fingers are seemingly being forced at an unatural downward angle for some reason. And then there's the question of that loose skin under it whawould that be?
I tried to hold my hand in a similar position that a hand would have to be in if it were a thumb... just not seeing it. Of course I'm not a thumb doctor either Posts: 687 | From: Grand Rapids, Michigan | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:I looked again and can see "thumbiness" of it (it even look like that could be the nail just at the end of the tweezers) but it's just a very odd position for a hand to be in if it were a thumb. The fingers would be normally pointing pretty close to the same position as the thumb but if this was a thumb, the fingers are seemingly being forced at an unatural downward angle for some reason. And then there's the question of that loose skin under it whawould that be?
If it is a thumb, when it's that badly mangled, you can't really expect it to be in a natural position. It also looks like it is prepped for some kind of treatment, which means that it's probably arranged for easy access.
Grip the base of your thumb, as close to the hand as you can, with your thumb and index finger, palm against palm, and you see something close to this picture (except the burning of course).
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"Grip the base of your thumb, as close to the hand as you can, with your thumb and index finger, palm against palm, and you see something close to this picture (except the burning of course)."
Might be be getting what you're saying but, there is nothing like that taking place in the OP. IMO if you have to do something that isn't happening in the OP just to get a desired result then I don't see the point.
Moot point anyway if we're to believe the link above. I wonder if we'll see this on a STD awareness campaign anytime soon. Posts: 687 | From: Grand Rapids, Michigan | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Might be be getting what you're saying but, there is nothing like that taking place in the OP. IMO if you have to do something that isn't happening in the OP just to get a desired result then I don't see the point.
I was trying to illustrate how a thumb could look if draped as in the photo. At least my thumb looked pretty much like that (except for the burning).
Well, at least it might make me popular with the ladies...
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Well, local anesthetic from circumcision, plus short wave diathermy used to treat genital herpes.
Short wave diathermy is a heating technique using high radio frequency electricity. this site indicates that it should be used for no more than 20-30 minutes, depending on the individual patient's impedance. In the OP case, it was used for 2.5 hours.
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well this is just my two cents, i think it deffinatly looks like a phallus. (sp?) but every time i look at the pic all i can think of is a burned ballpark hot dog, and i get disgusted with myself because i wonder what it tastes like.
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quote:Originally posted by Troberg: Actually, a phallus is an erect penis, and it does not really look that capable of erection.
While it certainly isn't a phallus, I'd have to say it does look a bit phallic. Crop out everything but the shriveled up member and it looks like an elongated, hard thing.
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I just looked it up in about half a dozen dictionaries, and there is no mention of the state of arousal of a phallus. Seeing that definition of phallus on wiki just proves that someone somewhere thinks that, not that it is the accepted definition. I think I will have to trust the dictionary, backed up by several other dictionaries, instead of some guy with too much time on his hands living in his mom's basement. (Yes, I know, the wiki article may well have been edited by someone with an advanced linguistics degree but there is no way of knowing that. I see saying "I read it on wiki" to be not much different than "some guy in a bar told me")
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quote:I just looked it up in about half a dozen dictionaries, and there is no mention of the state of arousal of a phallus. Seeing that definition of phallus on wiki just proves that someone somewhere thinks that, not that it is the accepted definition. I think I will have to trust the dictionary, backed up by several other dictionaries, instead of some guy with too much time on his hands living in his mom's basement. (Yes, I know, the wiki article may well have been edited by someone with an advanced linguistics degree but there is no way of knowing that. I see saying "I read it on wiki" to be not much different than "some guy in a bar told me")
Thanks, geminilee. I had done the same thing, even consulting medical dictionaries. Wiki serves a certain purpose--and I actually do consult it from time to time--but it just isn't trustworthy. As I tell my English composition students regularly, if a source isn't consistently reliable, it's not reliable.
No offense, Troberg--my questions were prompted by pure curiosity, not a desire to be obnoxious.
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Well, the etymological root means to swell (according to the Swedish Academy dictionary of the Swedish language) and the primary meaning of the word is "a symbol or representation of the penis". I don't really think that the old Greeks carried around a model of a limp penis in religious processions.
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Not to prolong this argument (heh), but come on: it was simply inaccurate to say that the term phallus only denotes an erect member. It was an honest mistake.
On a lighter and largely unrelated note, I used to know an old man named Paul Fallus, pronounced exactly the same as the male organ.
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quote:Originally posted by Buzzkiller: I used to know an old man named Paul Fallus, pronounced exactly the same as the male organ.
I don't know if it was intentional, but I did like the "old man" reference.
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"Old man" is a British euphamism for the penis.
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Huh? I never heard that specific definition. Neither, apparently, did dictionary.com.
I don't put alot of weight into what Wiki or Dictionary.com says but did notice that the encyclopedia part of reference.com mentions the erect penis but that's about the only place. Never knew that the clitoris is refered to as a phallus in some of dictionaries I saw.
And of course people always have to ask what you're looking up when you ask to borrow their dictionary...lol
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