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Jar Bear
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Yeah, completely NSFW [Wink]

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/07/28/another_dell_laptop_burns/

Is that image real?

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Zabia
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I don't know anything about that exact story, but it is not unusual to hear about laptops (or cellphones) exploding due to blackmarket batteries. Looking at the burns and the fact that the battery was mentioned. I would think that. IMHO, UMMV

ETA, could someone please make a Not Safe for Lap joke. I can't think of one.

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Squishy0405
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And here I was thinking there would be a dildo attatched. *sigh*

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bassjohn
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Just a coincidence?

The pop up ad that Snopes left on my desktop after checking this thread was for Dell computers - I'm really going to try one of their laptops now!

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Troberg
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And here I was thinking there would be a dildo attatched.
It's called a joystick...

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Griffin at the Maul
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This is not limited to Dell laptops. HP and IBM have also had this issue, as well as some cellular phones, but it has always been attributed to a cheaper aftermarket battery. Just goes to show you that there sometimes is a reason for the OEM charging a little bit more money.

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Tom o' Bedlam
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quote:
Originally posted by Troberg:
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And here I was thinking there would be a dildo attatched.
It's called a joystick...
Up until this very moment, I'd always wondered why they were called that.

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Nion
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*starts breathing again*

Okay, it's not my model. [Big Grin]

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Johnny Slick
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I'm all about being silly, but how is this NSFW? Are some people here actually laptops who object to same-object immolation?

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Corwin
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Well, it wasn't safe for the office in which it spontaneously combusted.

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Freshman
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it kinda looks photoshopped to me.. the colors don't match each other

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kroma
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quote:
Originally posted by HSSenior:
it kinda looks photoshopped to me.. the colors don't match each other

What colors don't match? You realize it's covered in fire extingusher powder, right? That's why it looks kinda weird.
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Ganzfeld
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The first time, I thought was some kind of joke but this looks bad for Dell laptops.
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bassjohn
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Seems like Dell are taking this seriously and have withdrawn 4.1 million laptops!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4793143.stm

for the BBC News story

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AnglsWeHvHrdOnHiRdr
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Laptop batteries.

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bassjohn
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Laptop batteries.
OK batteries...
The point I was trying to make is that previous post were blaming the fault on "cheaper aftermarket batteries", whereas the fault lies in the OEM batteries fitted by Dell.

BTW I do not have any personal grudge against Dell, but big firms are always happy to charge extra for manufacturers parts and let the faults be blamed on cheap imitations.

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AnglsWeHvHrdOnHiRdr
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Okay.

That has nothing to do with whether laptops or laptop batteries are being recalled.

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Griffin at the Maul
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Everybody loves to pick on Dell. Hp issued a recall on batteries for the same reason in April.
HP Recall

The reason that manufacturers recommend (and could potentially void the warrantee for not) using OEM parts is that they have no control over how aftermarket parts are built, and cannot be certain that said parts confirm to their specifications and requirements.

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Nion
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To further the point, the batteries in question are made by SONY.

My battery is the one that came with my Dell, is made by Panasonic, and is perfectly fine.

So flame Sony, not Dell . . . and pun intended. [Wink]

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Jason Threadslayer
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quote:
Originally posted by bassjohn:
The point I was trying to make is that previous post were blaming the fault on "cheaper aftermarket batteries", whereas the fault lies in the OEM batteries fitted by Dell.

BTW I do not have any personal grudge against Dell, but big firms are always happy to charge extra for manufacturers parts and let the faults be blamed on cheap imitations.

Unfortunately, the problem is bigger than that. There are cases where the parts were actually OEM parts that had failed QA and bought/stolen by another company and sold as good parts, old revisions of parts sold as newer revisions (and the reverse), mislabelled parts (246 USD Pentium II 266 MHz marked as 375 USD Pentium III 300 MHz, etc. In some cases these parts ended up in OEM hardware or sold as OEM replacement parts.

Even big corporations fall victim to counterfeit hardware. L-3 Communications bought a bunch of scrapped Philips ICs from an unauthorised retailer.

See "Bogus!" for more.

I have a bogus 512 MB SODIMM that's actually a 256 MB stick. The seller had taken a 256 MB stick and stuck a new sticker on it.

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Mycroft
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Similar battery problems go back a long way- I remember aroung 20 years ago when the BBC Master Computer came out, one of the advances over the older model was the use of a battery backup to retain system settings, unfortunately they used a lithium (old style not Li ion) which unfortunately they tried to recharge due to a circuit fault, and with explosive consequences. At the same time Sinclair introduced a pocket TV, also wity a lithium battery which proved to be temperature sensitive, reportedly destroying a warehouse in the US
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Mycroft
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CSGirl
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I just got an email from the company I work for saying that nationwide we have 6,000 of the recalled batteries. They said the recall was issued last week, but this thread certainly makes it seem as if they knew before that. My model is one of the recalled ones- and I am definitely taking my battery out now! [Eek!]

From the email:
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Earlier this week Dell announced a recall for over four million notebook computer batteries. The suspect batteries were placed in laptops that were shipped between April 2004 and July 18th of this year. A short-circuit could cause the battery to overheat, creating the risk of smoke and fire.

We have verified that over 6,000 laptops with these batteries have been shipped to our locations within North America. This recall also includes systems purchased under the Employee purchase program. At this time, we have been unable to confirm the number of systems shipped to locations outside of North America.



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Mystara
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I can verify this as well, the company I work for (U.S. Census) just issued a recall notice on the Dell laptop batteries.

Reasoning was that they are a fire hazard.

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Griffin at the Maul
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Looking at the record of battery fires versus that number of LiIon batteries sold in a year, the chances are very, very good that you will not have an incident, even if you are the owner of one of the recalled batteries.
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There have been 19 recalls of Lithium Ion batteries in the past few years, and more than 40 reported laptop fires since 2001. Popular Mechanics Blog
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a potential failure can arise if—during the Li-ion manufacturing process—metal particles are allowed to contaminate the interior of the cells. Over time, those particles can move into the separator, which is an insulating barrier between the anode and cathode sides of the cell. That creates a short circuit between anode and cathode, allowing electrons to flow freely and quickly, and the battery fails.-Ars Technica


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