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booyah
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this post is in reference to the following url address.

http://www.911studies.com/911photostudies1.htm

page3-4 = lawn mower marks imo
page5-7 = guard rail doesn't look like a guard rail, looks more like a temporary fence commonly found around many construction zones.
page8 = telephone pole is probably within 8 feet of the road. I dont know what the eavesment is, but the pole is probably closer to the road than it is that sidewalk.
page18a = sidewalk is on the pentagon side of truck, surprise, a truck with wheels and an engine moved. Surprise, a light weight part of the jet is moved by a person to a more remote location that's out of the way of fighting a fire.

all of the others and the stuff with the jeep/cars is confusing and I pretty much need those photos explained to me.
TIA,
-booyah

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TrekkerScout
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Jack White has been debunked so many times, he's hardly worth writing about anymore. His rantings about the JFK assassination "cover-up" and the "faked" Apollo moon landings are the stuff of legends. Here is just one of many sites that explain just how wrong Jack White is: http://www.clavius.org/jackwhite.html.
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patriot1
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This is just someone who craves attention, and literally has waaaay too much time on his hands. If he's so good, put the effort into worthwhile projects, not this crap.

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Singing in the Drizzle
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The guy is a idiot or does alot to make something out of nothing for attentions. Most like its both. I could easly explain most of the problem he had with the photes and not even think about it to much.
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Adelaide
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quote:
Originally posted by TrekkerScout:
His rantings about the JFK assassination "cover-up" and the "faked" Apollo moon landings are the stuff of legends.

But the moon landings were faked! I can't believe that any one who examines the pictures on this site could come to any other conclusion.

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That was hilarious Adelaide.

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TuFurg
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Wow... something tells me that dude has alot of cats... [Roll Eyes]
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tribrats
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I have an uncanny ability to manipulate images in my head from just a picture (and even more so if I can see 2 different angles- I have drawn very accurate overheads from just 2-3 flat pics taken from 2 different angles)) and in my unprofessional opinion, this quack has absolutly no clue about perspective. Anyone worth their salt about photography knows that even a 5' difference in angle of shoot can make the same scene look completely different. Heat (like from a fire) can distort what you are looking at to the point of not knowing for sure where something really is- much like a mirage.

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quote:
Originally posted by Adelaide:
But the moon landings were faked! I can't believe that any one who examines the pictures on this site could come to any other conclusion.

You almost OMANK there, Adelaide! You should thank God you didn't, because chocolate soymilk is awful hard to clean off a keyboard and monitor.

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Singing in the Drizzle
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tribrats,
If you manage to go thru enought pages of his garbage. I will start to see pictures that easly explain the problems he was having with earlier pictures.

One example of this that I remember. The rusted and non-rusted guard rail in two picture taken from similar angles. Later there is a picture of the same area that shows 2 gaurd rails about 20 to 30 feet apart. The furthest for the building is rusted and the closer is not. So one picture was taken closer to the biulding and the rusty gaurd rail was outside the frame. The other picture with far enough back that the rusty gaurd rail blocked the non-rusty rail from the picture. To add to this. In earlier pictures these are the same two gaurd rails he keeps pointing out as not being in some pictures.

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Jason Threadslayer
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pg 1:

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Fully loaded with thousands of gallons of jet fuel, four Boeing airliners are alleged to have crashed at three different sites...
Airlines do not fully load their planes with fuel. They put in enough for full trip plus enough to go on to at least one backup airport plus 45 minutes.

It is thousands of gallons, though. For a Boeing 767 flying from NY to SF, it's 7000 gallons (Patrick Smith, Ask the Pilot, pg 53ff).

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Singing in the Drizzle
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Threadslayer:
pg 1:

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Fully loaded with thousands of gallons of jet fuel, four Boeing airliners are alleged to have crashed at three different sites...
Airlines do not fully load their planes with fuel. They put in enough for full trip plus enough to go on to at least one backup airport plus 45 minutes.

It is thousands of gallons, though. For a Boeing 767 flying from NY to SF, it's 7000 gallons (Patrick Smith, Ask the Pilot, pg 53ff).

Not quite true. On internation fights it maybe cheaper to fulling fuel the airplane so that it has enough for the return flight. The fuel prices in other country can be high enought to justify the cost of caring enough fuel for the return trip.
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tribrats
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quote:
Originally posted by Singing in the Drizzle:
tribrats,
If you manage to go thru enought pages of his garbage. I will start to see pictures that easly explain the problems he was having with earlier pictures.

One example of this that I remember. The rusted and non-rusted guard rail in two picture taken from similar angles. Later there is a picture of the same area that shows 2 gaurd rails about 20 to 30 feet apart. The furthest for the building is rusted and the closer is not. So one picture was taken closer to the biulding and the rusty gaurd rail was outside the frame. The other picture with far enough back that the rusty gaurd rail blocked the non-rusty rail from the picture. To add to this. In earlier pictures these are the same two gaurd rails he keeps pointing out as not being in some pictures.

I love his bull about the monuments in the background (yeah, I've looked at a lot of his pages). He proves himself wrong with those right there. If you compare the angles on his own map and figure the correct angles in the pics, they line up perfectly!

My Dad has some old slides of us sledding. One he took standing and one kneeling. Same exact spot but only a very slight difference in height. In the kneeling one, you would think we are on a flat field. In the standing one, you can clearly see the top of the house and barn down in the little valley between the 2 hills and the top of the hill behind us. Not big hills but just enough to give that illusion.

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Mystara
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I actually live quite close to the Pentagon, I'm not even 5 minutes away by car.

I have seen where the triage was done.

The triage was not done in the place that Jack White claims, because if it were then that means rescuers would have to climb the rail there. The rail is there because there is a drop off at that location. It was actually done on the OTHER side of the Helipad. Which is just a slight bit south of the site of impact. The over head views show clearly where the sidewalk runs through without a rail.

The differentiation between helicopter landing warnings is quite elementary. There exists 4 of them, one on each side of the pad. The one closest to the street is next to the rail and pole. The one with the "missing" pole is on the southern end of the helipad.

This gentleman is clearly a crackpot, as the folks at NASA have claimed. He doesn't take in account the time frame of the photos, as if they were all taken simultaneously, or the fact that vehicles are designed to move around. The rescue vehicles were continuously moving around.

This man needs serious psychiatric help. The part that makes me ashamed is that there will be someone out there that believe this guy.

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usbunch
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I was there in rm 3D765, and Jack White is an idiot. And What Green Berets? Those were just regular soldiers.
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