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Evil_eyes
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This went straigt to my spam folder in Gmal. I dont know what to think of it.

Good afternoon!

I am a manager of United Business Invest, Inc Company.
We are glad to inform you, that your resume has been successfully selected
from hundreds of candidates.
Search passed on site www.careerbuilder.com! And now we would like to
suggest you to become our agent in the USA!
I am your personal manager, my name is Dmitry Astahov, and my task is to
show you the ropes and to explain what is required from you.

Some information about United Business Invest, Inc Company.
General directions of “United Business Invest, Inc” are the following:
- Complex financial service of corporate clients;
- Financing international trade enterprises;
- Financing navigation business;
- Controlling of assets and private persons' fortune;
- Strategic consulting;
- Marketing service of operations clients, financial (non-financial)
partners and agents organization
Strategically, we serve the following five categories of clients:

• Institutional investors
• High-net-worth individual investors
• Entrepreneurs
• Portfolio company management teams
• Clients that need investment banking or management consulting
services


We help institutional investors and high-net-worth individual investors to
make successful private equity investments to optimize their portfolio
management.
Private equity is an asset class that offers investors unique opportunities
and advantages. Our activities include all aspects of investment research
and
analysis, due diligence, fund administration, in addition to maintaining
the broad vision required to identify and capture private equity investment

opportunities wherever they arise.

Within the ten years’ experience “United Business Invest, Inc” and its
enterprises have accumulated a great number of documents and certificates
and worked out
methods of planning and schemes on how to work in tens of countries.
“United Business Invest, Inc” is a professional member of over-the-counter
market. Financial
risks are insured with Insurance Company.

Our company participates in the investment management on the territory of
Russia. From February, 1 2006 we have begun work with the USA.
We have already clients from the USA who want to invest their capital in
Russian industry. Therefore we help the American businessmen to carry out
the
financial analysis of Russian market for more effective investment of their
capital. At the request of the American clients we search for the most
favourable
offers on work in the financial market of Russia. Thus we help our clients
in the development of their business on the territory of Russia.

Now we want to explain to you a problem which arises at work with the
American clients.

For work with the American clients and for business dealing in territory
the USA under the American law our company has been registered
In Tax services of America. Now our company has all necessary documents and
essential elements for work with the American clients:
UNITED BUSINESS INVEST, INC.
Address: 33 E YALE LOOP
IRVINE, CA 92604
Tax ID (FEIN): 330919210
Duns Number: 09-745-2606
Reference Name: CALIFORNIA UCC FILINGS
Date Provided: 06-29-2005
Therefore we pay taxes from all incomes in territory of America. According
to the Tax Legislation of USA our company should execute the following
rules:
1. Our company should have the financial representative who will be the
resident in the USA
2. All financial operations should is carried out through the financial
representative in the USA.
For payment of our services our clients can pay money directly to Russia,
but it CONTRADICTS LAWS the tax Legislation of USA.
Therefore now the employee in the USA is necessary for us and now I want to
offer you this post.
WE ACCEPT BANKER'S CHECKS, DIRECT TRANSFER OF MONEY TO HANDS, INTERBANK
TRANSLATIONS, FOR PAYMENT OF OUR SERVICES. THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN
CLIENTS
PREFER TO USE CHECKS FOR PAYMENT OF OUR SERVICES. THEY CONSIDER THAT IT IS
THE MOST RELIABLE, CHEAP AND CHECKED UP WAY FOR PAYMENT. AFTER CONSULTATION
WHICH
WE GIVE BY E-MAIL OR PHONE, THEY MAKE OUT A CHECK. MANY CLIENTS ARRIVE TO
OUR OFFICE IN MOSCOW AND AFTER WORK WITH OUR COMPANY THEY WRITE OUT CHECKS.
ALL
THESE CHECKS ARE VALID ONLY ON THE TERRITORY OF THE USA. THEY CAN BE CASHED
ONLY ON THE TERRITORY OF THE USA. WE HAVE BRANCHES ONLY IN RUSSIA AND CIS
COUNTRIES. THEREFORE ONE OF THE DUTIES OF THE FINANCIAL MANAGER IN THE USA
WILL BE RECEPTION OF BANKER'S CHECKS FOR CASHING IN.
SOME CLIENTS WILL PERSONALLY ARRIVE TO YOU FOR PAYMENT OF OUR SERVICES.

Also I want to explain to you a situation concerning payment of taxes. You
should not worry concerning payment of taxes from your incomes.
Because you should not pay any taxes from your incomes as you will be
submitted as " Independent Contractor " and according to the contract
which you sign with our company, you will be exempted from all taxes.

If you agree to work in the quality of Financial Manager in the USA you
will have price-work wages. These are 10 % from all incomes in the USA
(checks, bank operations, payment by cash). At the first stage of work
every week you will receive checks for 8000 USD,
therefore your earnings will be not less than 800 USD per week. With the
increase of the amount of our
clients in the USA your earnings will increase as well. It is a very
favourable offer for you which you should not miss. If you disagree for this
work,
please inform us as we have many candidates for this position but only ONE
WORKPLACE which now is offered only to you.
Please give your answer during two working days. And now we hope for your
consent as we require fair, responsible and respectable employees.


At present we have a small amount of clients in the USA as our company has
only recently started work with the USA but by calculations of the marketing

department and according to the business plan in 3 months our company will
have more than 30 clients in the USA.
Thus, in 3 months you will serve more than 30 payments from our clients
(checks, bank operations, payment by cash) a month for a total sum not less
than 70,000 USD, therefore your earnings will be more than 7000 USD a
month.
It is not required a lot of time from you for this purpose. It is enough
one hour a day for performance of work. More simply, when you act in the
quality of
our financial manager, we will inform our clients about you and explain
them that you are our financial manager in the USA.
Then our clients will choose a way of payment of our services:
1. payment by cash. They will come to you for payment. Now our company has
no office in the USA therefore it complicates work.
But our company plans opening official office in 2007. Therefore in the
future clients will arrive to this office.

2. BANKER'S CHECKS. If clients which cannot personally arrive to you that
they will write out checks for your name and then will send
These checks to you by regular mail.

Therefore further if our clients will write out checks for you and when you
receive it,
you should cash money from the check, leave 10 percent for yourself and
send the rest to the financial department of our company.
As you can see it is not difficult and rather profitable!
Also you have a choice! There is the second variant of work. But
unfortunately you can engage in this work only after one-year employment in
our company.
After you work in our company for 12 months, you can be promoted and become
our ADVERTISING MANAGER.
To be appointed to this position in our company you should:
1. Work in our company for one year.
2. To conclude the contract with our company.
3. Arrive to Russia for training and consultation for the period of two
months. All lectures will be held in English.
As we give you an interpreter, you will not have any problems in a language
barrier.
(We will completely provide you with accommodation and meal). Our company
will pay you 40 USD per day during your stay in Russia. You will live in the
Hotel
Arbat in the center of Moscow.
Hotel’s address:
Moscow
Leninskiy Street, 23
(495) 961-2115
4. Receive a taxpayer number in Russia. Please do not worry about it. Our
company will completely take all work on itself. This number gives you the
following advantages:
** When you retire, you will be paid every month from the budget of Russia
900 USD as a retirement benefit.
** You receive free of charge treatment in any hospital on the territory of
Russia.

If you satisfy the above mentioned conditions, you will search clients who
will be ready to invest into economy of Russia.
More simply, you are an interlink between our company and clients in the
USA.
You will receive the salary at the rate of 15 percent from all the sum of
funds which clients will pay to our firm. You will decide who is to be
employed,
and what way. Your task will be search of clients! All stages of work with
one client cost approximately 25,000 USD.
If you find 10 clients who will be ready to cooperate with our company, it
will be easier for you to pass a curriculum in Russia. We will provide you
with
the financial base for carrying out of advertising on territory of the USA.

Advertising will be carried out on TV, publicity boards, magazines,
newspapers.
From ten clients our company can receive profit at the rate of 250,000 USD
from which you can get 15 percent and it is 37,500 USD!
But this work will take you much more time. But now it is early to speak
about it. Now you should know that in our company you are not at a stop!
You are promoted and increase your salary. We respect and remunerate our
employees who are responsible for concern in the work.

All work will consist of the following stages:

1. You should fill in and sign the contract and EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION.
2. To send us by e-mail or fax:
A) a copy of the signed contract and the employment application.
B) Yours Photo ID(In a staff department of United Business Invest,
Inc
will your personal labour book, therefore your photo will be attached to
the labour book)
C) Copy of the ID documents (Driving licence, the passport or
other)
3. After that you will receive a position of Financial Manager in our
company.
At this stage we inform our clients about you. Some our clients will use
checks for payment of our service,
therefore they will write out checks for your name.
There can be some clients will want to transfer money directly in your
hands. But it will be possible only after that
As we shall send you a employer card of our company. You should present
this card to all our clients.
Without this card our clients have not the right to transfer money
directly in hands.
4. Other clients who will prefer to use checks, will write out it for your
name and to send
On your home address regular mail.
5. We inform you how many, when and from whom you receive checks.
6. After you receive checks, you should exchange it for cash.
7. Then you should send money (90 percent from the sum) to our Financial
Manager in Russia:
You should send all money on the bank account of our company in Moscow.
It is settlement
The account of a financial department of company UNITED BUSINESS INVEST,
INC.
For this purpose you should make SWIFT translation of ANY American bank.

For transfer of money you should use our bank essential elements.


Transfer fee should be taken from the sum of the checks

If you are interested in our offer, please, write on my e-mail:

astahov@ubinvest.com

The contract on which it is necessary to put your signature will be sent to
you, you should make a copy and send it back to us.
If you have a fax, please send your fax number. We will send it on your
fax. Otherwise the contract will be send to you in the next letter.
We need the full information about you (your full name, your address, phone
number, a FAX is necessary for us, etc.), it is necessary for communication
with
you in case of emergency situations!

We will be glad to welcome you as the representative of United Business
Invest, Inc company in the USA!

Yours faithfully,
Personal Manager
Dmitry Astahov
e-mail: astahov@ubinvest.com
main website: www.ubinvest.com
USA website: www.unitedbusinessinvest.us
Tel: 7(495)589-1989

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ComicBookGeek
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that was a long read but from skimming, I didn't see them ask for money. If they ask for money, it's a scam.

However, I frequently get emails from a company responding to my resume. They never actually address anything on my resume and considering that little of my experience would actually help their company, I don't think they are more than a fly-by-night opperation.

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It seems like a scam, but the company is real and the phone number matches. The US site seems to indicate that there is no shortage of US reps though.

I think you should forward the email to info@ubinvest.com and see what they say.

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Tootsie Plunkette
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quote:
6. After you receive checks, you should exchange it for cash.
7. Then you should send money (90 percent from the sum) to our Financial
Manager in Russia:
You should send all money on the bank account of our company in Moscow.
It is settlement
The account of a financial department of company UNITED BUSINESS INVEST,
INC.
For this purpose you should make SWIFT translation of ANY American bank.

I wonder if, after you 'cash' the checks, and send the money to Moscow (swiftly), your bank comes back and tells you the checks were bogus.

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Discussed here.

More here.

Googling "Dmitry Astahov" gets quite a few hits with similar letters and all say scam.

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Felessan
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Tootsie; you are correct. Strip away all the padding, and it's a basic cheque-cashing scam.

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Money Mule Scam Hits U.S.

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In the words of Four Kitties in a separate thread: Check-forward-a-chow

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Besides it being a scam, the fact that it's from Russia should be a red flag.
Play on words intended, but seriously.

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I guess I don't get how this can be succesful.
Don't banks wait until a deposited check 'clears' before allowing you access to the funds? Maybe I don't understand what 'clear' really means. I assumed that it meant the issuing bank releases funds from the check's account to the depositor's account.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dogwater:
I guess I don't get how this can be succesful.
Don't banks wait until a deposited check 'clears' before allowing you access to the funds? Maybe I don't understand what 'clear' really means. I assumed that it meant the issuing bank releases funds from the check's account to the depositor's account.

Forged checks can take quite some time before the banks determine they are fake. By this time you have sent the funds on and are the one left holding the worthless note when the bank resinds the deposit from your account.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dogwater:
I guess I don't get how this can be succesful.
Don't banks wait until a deposited check 'clears' before allowing you access to the funds? Maybe I don't understand what 'clear' really means. I assumed that it meant the issuing bank releases funds from the check's account to the depositor's account.

Most banks will cash a check for a customer up to the amount that the customer has in his/her account. They might then put a hold on the account for the amount of the check. When the check comes back as bogus, they pull the money out of the customer's account to cover their (the bank's) loss.

Since they have you send copies of identifying information, this could also be an ID theft scam.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dogwater:
I guess I don't get how this can be succesful.
Don't banks wait until a deposited check 'clears' before allowing you access to the funds?

Yes, but cheques can dishonour for a number of reasons long after the clearing period is over. when that happens, the issuing bank automatically recalls the funds from the paying bank, leaving the paying bank with the debt which it then passes on to you.

at that point both banks are debt free and the debt is between you and the signatory of the original cheque.

shitty I know, but I have seen it happen in the course of my job, the banks wash their hands of it.

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If you are ever in doubt, always remember that legitimate job offers DONT TYPE IN ALL CAPS. They also rarely originate in Russia.

Everyone is right, classic check scam. They send a check, you cash it, it bounces, you lose lots of money. Gmail put it in your spam folder for a reason. [Smile]

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Well I knew something was fishy. I just couldnt put my finger on what.

I will send this letter to the company on the US site and see what they say or if they even know.

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Generally, when I put my resume online, I disregard all emails that are not related to my profession. Many of them are advertisements for "home-based businesses", and some of them do sound like scams

This one definetly sounds like a scam

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