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Comment: It is true that a Coke (one can) has 10 spoonfuls of sugar?
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According to Coca-Cola, an 8 ounce serving has the equivalent of 27 grams (97 calories) of sugar. This means that the standard 12 ounce can has 40.5 grams (145.5 calories). A typical teaspoon of sugar contains 16 calories. Therefore, a can of Coca-Cola has just over 9 teaspoons of sugar, which is fairly close to the commentor's claim.
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It's corn syrup though. Thanks to the racist tariffs on non- white countries bringing in cane sugar our Coke has to be made with syrup due to the uber price difference.
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The tariffs aren't racist -- they apply equally to all countries that grow sugar no matter what the ethnicity of their population.

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I have to ask, WTH are you talking about? I have to admit that I'm far more interested in science than economic policy but what tariffs are you two referring to?

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Which 'white' countries produce cane sugar? More importantly, the tariffs cover all sugar, not just cane sugar.

I'm not defending the tariffs, but implying that they are racist is a little unnecesary and over the top.

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Yeah, I don't think any malice was intended when the tariffs were established. They do more to protect the corn farmers than to punish Caribbean states.

However, I do agree that HFCS sucks, and I wish the soda manufacturers would offer their products with cane sugar and let me decide which I prefer to drink. I'd gladly pay an extra nickel or dime per soda if that were the case. As of now, I'm stuck drinking diet cola. Blech.

I get the real think when I'm in Guatemala, and I'm going to see if they sell coke with sugar in Puerto Rico in a week or so. I'll keep you all informed... [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by BeachLife:
Which 'white' countries produce cane sugar? More importantly, the tariffs cover all sugar, not just cane sugar.

I'm not defending the tariffs, but implying that they are racist is a little unnecesary and over the top.

Australia produces sugar cane
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The US and the EU produce sugar.

World Sugar Statistics from Ilovo, a South African sugar company.

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from Ilovo
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The international sugar season runs from September to August
Soooo...sugar is always in season? AWESOME!

But there's also some disturbing news from this site if you're American. We're majorly getting our asses kicked by Mexico and Brazil. I can't let my country down! MUST EAT MORE SUGAR!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by reflex:

However, I do agree that HFCS sucks, and I wish the soda manufacturers would offer their products with cane sugar and let me decide which I prefer to drink. I'd gladly pay an extra nickel or dime per soda if that were the case. As of now, I'm stuck drinking diet cola. Blech.

I get the real think when I'm in Guatemala, and I'm going to see if they sell coke with sugar in Puerto Rico in a week or so. I'll keep you all informed... [Smile]

OT- Sometimes you can find soda from Mexico or other places in small or ethnic grocery stores... It's either made with sugar or there is some other difference because it tastes different. I once bought a Coke like this in a glass bottle at a liquor store in my neighborhood, and it tasted fantastic. I was hooked.

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The sugar tariffs actually go back through most of our nations history, so its not just about protecting corn farmers, although thats a recent aspect of it. Its only 20 years or so ago that our soft drink manufacturers switched to corn syrup. We briefly relaxed our sugar tariffs in the 70s, but Reagan's Republicans quickly accepted sugar industry lobbying (bribes) and restored it, a factor that helped precipitate the switch to corn syrup.

The sugar tariffs are basically massive corporate welfare for what sugar growers we do have in this country. Our climate isn't well suited to growing sugar, but because of the growers political lobbying we subsidize them enough to be able to grow it rather than just importing cheap sugar. Sometimes a politician will try to stand up to them, but there is just too much money spent on lobbying, and not enough public awareness for there to be public will behind it. It costs us a lot of money actually, since the effect of the expensive sugar is felt in all of our food industries.

That having been said, I don't think these tariffs are racially motivated, they're just too firmly entrenched for corrupt politicians to get rid of. Although there may have been a racial element when they were first instituted, considering back in those days our sugar plantations were manned by slave labor.

I think we really need to cut off our absurd sugar tariffs and just move to free trade. The only people to benefit are a few farmers trying to grow a crop in the wrong climate, and the list of reasons against it are immense. Many central american farmers would be growing sugar instead of cocaine if there was the market for it.

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The sugar plantations in the Caribean also relied on slave labour.

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Anywere there are big Hispanic communities you can find Coke(Sprite, Pepsi, whatever) with sugar(and in glass bottles) that are imported from Mexico. They taste better and are smaller in size. I love going to the local grocery as well as Dillons(Owned by Krogers)to buy them. But, I have read in some newspapers lately that regional bottlers are not happy and want to stop the importing because it cuts into their profits. The soda companies really don't care because a Coke is a Coke no matter where its made. As long as it meets the basic standards.
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quote:
Originally posted by reflex:
However, I do agree that HFCS sucks, and I wish the soda manufacturers would offer their products with cane sugar and let me decide which I prefer to drink. I'd gladly pay an extra nickel or dime per soda if that were the case.

Here you find some of the sodas that are bottled locally are made using beet sugar since this is grown and produced here and therefore, is easy to get. It has a different flavor from either corn syrup or cane sugar but it's closer to the latter.

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Yay! This thread just helped me solve the mystery of why Mexican Coca-Cola tastes so much better!

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Dr. Soda

A case of 24 7oz glass bottles of real sugar coke.

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Another vote for Mexican sodas! HEB (a TX chain) carries them; so does the Food Lion in my rural VA home. I like the Jarritos and the sangria flavor that I believe Topo Chico makes.
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I have a question for the soda buffs. All coke here lists "sugar (glucose/fructose)" as the second ingredient. Is that the same as cane sugar, or is it corn syrup?

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Tariffs or not- one thing is certain- Coke tastes much better in Canada, where it's made with real sugar.

I was reading a few articles recently about Corn Syrup. According to several people, it has kind of an addictive quality to it. You drink some, and you want more and more. Back in the 1950s, if you tried to down 2 liters of Coke, you'd probably find yourself pretty full pretty fast. Today, I can literally drink down a 2 liter container of Coke, Pepsi, Mt. Dew and other soft drinks. After drinking that one 1/2 liter of Coke in Canada, I was starting to feel full.

When did Corn Syrup take over much of the sugar market in the USA? In the 1970s. When did people start to notice a higher and higher obesity rate in America? In the 1980s. Have we seen a sharp rise in soft drink sales over the last 30 years? I don't have a source to quote, but I bet the answer is yes. I bet Corn Syrup is playing a large role in our obesity and diabetes problem- and the funny thing is, while we are tariffing sugar we are subsedizing corn syrup. Your tax dollars at work people. Enjoy it.

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Slight sidetrack, but on topic...

I used to live in Dublin, TX, one of the only places where you can get Dr. Pepper made to the original formula, with real cane sugar instead of corn syrup. People go nuts for it. You can buy it at Central Market in Fort Worth for ridiculously high prices, and sometimes you'll see a gas station or something advertising "We have Dublin Dr. Pepper!" My Dad used to buy 24 packs of it, as well as cases of the bottles, to give as gifts to family and friends who oohed and aaahed over it.

I could never taste that big of a difference in it. It was good, but it wasn't a huge difference from regular Dr. Pepper. However, it was vastly more satisfying. I could drink one of the small 8oz bottles and get just as much satisfaction as I got from drinking a 20oz of the regular. When we moved out of there, I couldn't understand why the soda suddenly seemed so much less satisfying. I could guzzle an entire can in minutes and still crave more. The sugar really does fill you up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cobra4J:
When did Corn Syrup take over much of the sugar market in the USA? In the 1970s. When did people start to notice a higher and higher obesity rate in America? In the 1980s. Have we seen a sharp rise in soft drink sales over the last 30 years? I don't have a source to quote, but I bet the answer is yes. I bet Corn Syrup is playing a large role in our obesity and diabetes problem- and the funny thing is, while we are tariffing sugar we are subsedizing corn syrup. Your tax dollars at work people. Enjoy it.

Yeah, the obesity problem could be the fault of corn syrup, but don't give it all the credit.

What about:
-PCs
-video game consoles
-cable & sattelite tv
-central air
-suburban sprawl (less walking/more driving)
-Parents that watch too much news & think if they let their kids out into the neighborhood they have a 90% chance of being abducted & sold as sex slaves in mysterious foreign lands, or murdered/molested by rabid bands of heroin junkies and their pit-bulls with bird flu.

I personally blame lifestyle changes well ahead of our crappy foods.(For arguments sake I'll say 80/20)

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O- no argument Jeffrey- lack of exercise is probably as much to blame for obesity as anything else-

However, as Blushingbride noted, when a soft drink is made with real sugar, you feel like stopping after 8 or 12 ounces. You don't need 4, or 48 ounces- It's the difference between 100 calories and 400 calories. 100 calories can be walked off in a mile or 2 (1/2 hour walk). Anybody got the time to walk 4-8 miles to burn off one big gulp?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeffrey814:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra4J:
When did Corn Syrup take over much of the sugar market in the USA? In the 1970s. When did people start to notice a higher and higher obesity rate in America? In the 1980s. Have we seen a sharp rise in soft drink sales over the last 30 years? I don't have a source to quote, but I bet the answer is yes. I bet Corn Syrup is playing a large role in our obesity and diabetes problem- and the funny thing is, while we are tariffing sugar we are subsedizing corn syrup. Your tax dollars at work people. Enjoy it.

Yeah, the obesity problem could be the fault of corn syrup, but don't give it all the credit.

What about:
-PCs
-video game consoles
-cable & sattelite tv
-central air
-suburban sprawl (less walking/more driving)
-Parents that watch too much news & think if they let their kids out into the neighborhood they have a 90% chance of being abducted & sold as sex slaves in mysterious foreign lands, or murdered/molested by rabid bands of heroin junkies and their pit-bulls with bird flu.

I personally blame lifestyle changes well ahead of our crappy foods.(For arguments sake I'll say 80/20)

Jeffrey

You forgot "eating huge portions very quickly in between classes/meetings/trains etc" and "only feeling satisfied by sugar-fat-salt laden food."
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When did Corn Syrup replace sugar in most U.S. sodas?
Back during WWII actually, when all the sugar was going to the war effort. Each household was given rations for things like flour and sugar.
Most companies lost out on being able to get sugar so they had to find others things to "sweeten" their products with. Pepsi tried to get around this by buying cane sugar fields down in Cuba. But as soon as they did the U.S. Government step in and took control of the fields because they belonged to a U.S. company(Of Course that was before Castor overthrow the Cuban government and took control of everything and kicked out most Americans and American Companies).
Then most companies found it was cheaper and easier to keep using corn syrup because corn can be planted in almost every state of the union. They wouldn't have to ship sugar in, and it would keep farmers in business. It was only later when sugar became cheap and readily available again that the Government tapped on heavy tarrifs.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vivling.:
I have a question for the soda buffs. All coke here lists "sugar (glucose/fructose)" as the second ingredient. Is that the same as cane sugar, or is it corn syrup?

I see you are in BC. If that's the case, chances are it's cane sugar. Unless you have a can of pop that came from the States in which case, corn syrup it is.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vivling.:
I have a question for the soda buffs. All coke here lists "sugar (glucose/fructose)" as the second ingredient. Is that the same as cane sugar, or is it corn syrup?

I see you are in BC. If that's the case, chances are it's cane sugar. Unless you have a can of pop that came from the States in which case, corn syrup it is.
It might also be beet sugar. I've learned unless it's specifically makred as cane sugar it can be either.

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quote:
Originally posted by Noemi:
It might also be beet sugar. I've learned unless it's specifically makred as cane sugar it can be either.

Noemi

It is possible that it's sugar beers, however it is unlikely as 90% of all refined sugar in Canada is from sugar cane.

"Canada produces over 1.1 million tonnes of refined sugar annually. Approximately 90% is refined cane sugar from imported raw sugar. The remainder is refined beet sugar from Canada's domestically grown sugar beets."

Sugar Industry

IIRC, the inexpensive supply of cane sugar is part of the reason that Lifesavers are now made in Canada.

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