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Robots might one day be smart enough to demand emancipation from their human owners, raising the prospects they'll have to be treated as citizens, according to a speculative paper released by the British government.

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/1221tech-robots21-ON.html

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We sci-fi nuts considered this possibility LONG ago. [Wink]

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The BBC reported this too:

Robots could demand legal rights

Zachary Fizz is right to be scared of those robot camel jockeys. And since he's a conservative, it's worse than he thinks - apparently they won't just be making us race for their own amusement - they'll be demanding social security and the right to vote, too!

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If granted, countries would be obliged to provide social benefits including housing and even "robo-healthcare", the report says.

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This is my current opinion, due to change every five mor ten days:

Since nearly all robots are for practical purposes -- and, let's face it, human-like intelligence is not very practical -- I don't think this will be a problem for some time to come. When the first really intelligent robots do emerge, they still won't have the same needs as humans so what they will desire as "rights" may be something completely different than what we consider human rights.

The rights we grant each other are not universal. They come from millions of years of evolution, from our mammal-primate-human survival and reproductive needs. I can't believe that we'll be able to, or even really want to, develop a robot with the same needs, at least not for a long time. In many ways, robots will surpass (and in many many ways already do surpass) human intelligence but it will be a long time (if ever) before they are something we or they would consider social animals.

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The Animatrix comes to mind...

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Next they'll be telling us it's unethical to eat the things...

It's a more interesting idea than you'd think at first, though. It might seem absurd that robots could get to the point of campaigning for this sort of thing. But it won't actually be robots campaigning, in the same way that it's not cows that campaign against being eaten, or chimpanzees that campaign against being experimented on.

At some point a group of people will decide that robots have reached a stage of development that means they deserve fair treatment. That's far more likely to happen than the robots themselves deciding, and it would be interesting to see exactly when it happens and how seriously it's taken. At the moment, I imagine most people would think any group campaigning for this to be insane, but robots have already been developed that are capable of behaving in similar ways to insects or lampreys (that is, simple creatures - to be fair, the lamprey robot actually has the brain of a real lamprey so it doesn't really count as an example here.)

There are definitely people who feel that it's wrong to kill or harm insects...

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I wonder which religious group will oppose robot rights? And I'll know we're truly in the future when I see a robot pride parade.
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We're here!
We're robotic!
Get used to it!

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quote:
Originally posted by One-Horse Open Jay Temple:
We're here!
We're robotic!
Get used to it!

Good, but how about:

We're here!
We have gears!
Get used to it!

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You know, Hubert, I tried to rhyme something, but I was fixated on adjectives. I genuflect before you.

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quote:
Originally posted by One-Horse Open Jay Temple:
You know, Hubert, I tried to rhyme something, but I was fixated on adjectives. I genuflect before you.

Thank you kind sir. I wouldn't have even thought to put a chant before you did though. Another came to mind. This is from Futurama though so I can't take credit:

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I wonder which religious group will oppose robot rights? And I'll know we're truly in the future when I see a robot pride parade.
And if you're opposed to robot rights, which mega-retailer or television network are you supposed to boycott?

- snopes

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
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I wonder which religious group will oppose robot rights? And I'll know we're truly in the future when I see a robot pride parade.
And if you're opposed to robot rights, which mega-retailer or television network are you supposed to boycott?

- snopes

Well, Best Buy and the Scifi channel for starters. They've been catering to those damn robos for far too long.
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You know, if we allow gay marraige, then we open up the doors to people marrying robots

Actually, I know some women who might prefer being married to their vibrator

Oh yeah, won't someone think about the children?

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Actually, it gets even dicier. Some nano-bots could be self-replicating. So is it okay for a robot to abort a replication process?

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quote:
Originally posted by GenYus:
Actually, it gets even dicier. Some nano-bots could be self-replicating. So is it okay for a robot to abort a replication process?

Egads!! That might put a whole new spin on the question of when life starts. What if the nano-bot's code is something like this

code:
function NFBSKit
if(check some condition)
replicate
else
go blind
end if
end func

Is the presence of the if condition analogous to an abortion? or is that routine the robotic equivalent of mastrubation? Will it be illegal to have the specific condition be false? or will it be illegal to put a replication routine inside an if condition?

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