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Guardian journalist becomes London organiser for the BNP

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On the evening of Sunday September 24 I was sitting in the Orange Tree pub in Richmond, south-west London, opposite a man who had contacted me by email. He had told me that his name was Nick Russell, and that he was the London regional organiser for the BNP. One these statements was true; the other I knew to be a lie.

Nick is indeed a dedicated party activist. His real name, however, is Nick Eriksen. He is 47, a former civil servant, and he once served as a Tory councillor in Southwark, south London. An intense man, with bitten nails and a permanent frown, he appears forever to be on the brink of losing his temper. His complaints that night were endless: the sale of a local real-ale brewery, the iniquity of Britain's divorce laws, interference from Brussels and, of course, immigration. "Yes, I suppose if I was a half-starved Somali goat-herd, I would want to come to Britain ... the South Africans will never stage a proper World Cup, how could they? It's a black country. They've got the infrastructure the whites left them, but it's a mess now ... I hear there are a hundred thousand Bulgarians and Romanians waiting to get in ... I would have thought the number of people we had living in Britain in the 1930s or 40s was the optimum population." And so it goes on.

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Among my members, I discover, is Simone Clarke, principal dancer with the English National Ballet. During a subsequent conversation, Ms Clarke says that she believes immigration "has really got out of hand", despite her partner, both on and off-stage, being a Cuban dancer of Chinese extraction. She adds: "If everyone who thinks like I do joined, it would really make a difference."

Another is Richard Highton, administrator of the Optical Consumer Complaints Service, which handles complaints about opticians. "Everyone you speak to is fed up and thinks the same," he says. "I would have thought central London is a breeding ground for discontent at what we have at the moment."

Then there is Peter Bradbury, a leading practitioner of complementary medicine and board member of the General Naturopathic Council, which works in partnership with a charity established by Prince Charles. He explains that he first joined the party many years ago, and was a friend of its late founder, John Tyndall.

Gregory Lauder-Frost, former political secretary of the Conservative Monday Club, the rightwing pressure group, emails to say he is unable to be an active member, as he spends most of his time at his home in the country.

And Annabel Geddes, the entrepreneur who created the London Dungeon and who became director of the London Tourist Board when she sold the business, apologises for having lapsed and promises to send a cheque to renew her membership. Annabel volunteers the opinion that Asian immigrants are a "bloody bore" while black people are "ghastly". "I'm a racist," she declares proudly. "We've got to keep little UK basically Anglo-Saxon."

More on the seven-month investigation.

Comment piece on the surprising infiltration of Nazism into the world of ballet, a hotbed of nationalism I understand.

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From the OP: "I'm a racist," she declares proudly. "We've got to keep little UK basically Anglo-Saxon."
On the plus side, she's clearly ignorant as well as an idiot.
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I do think it's brilliant that she used to be chief executive of the London Tourist Board.

What's her slogan? Something like:
"Come to London, but for Goodness sake don't stay."

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It gets better and better: Ms Geddes is no more Anglo-Saxon than I am. Probably.
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It's Mrs Geddes, though, so she could merely have married a Jock interloper, which has caused her hatred of all ethnics, as it can so easily. (My hatred of all foreigners essentially boils down to my dislike of one Scotchman, after all. He spilt my pint in Dundee once, and didn't even apologise, much less offer to buy a new one. I tell you, the whole Scotch race will pay for that.)

For all we know, her maiden name could be something quintessentially English, like Nguyen or Hamza.

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Little point of accuracy, it's Scotsman, not scotch. Scotch is a whiskey, broth or a mist but never a person. [Smile]

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Originally posted by niner domestic actual:
Little point of accuracy, it's Scotsman, not scotch. Scotch is a whiskey, broth or a mist but never a person. [Smile]

I refuse to abide by the Scotchman's insistence on hoity-toity nomenclature. They are quite clearly Scotch, like the egg.

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quote:
Originally posted by niner domestic actual:
Little point of accuracy, it's Scotsman, not scotch. Scotch is a whiskey, broth or a mist but never a person. [Smile]

Nitpick - actually, Scotch is whisky, anything that is whiskey is Irish. [Big Grin]
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Just as long as that Mrs Geddes isn't planning miscegenation. That would be shocking.
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quote:
Originally posted by niner domestic actual:
Little point of accuracy, it's Scotsman, not scotch. Scotch is a whiskey, broth or a mist but never a person. [Smile]

It can also be tape.

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Dara bhur gCara
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quote:
Originally posted by Zachary Fizz:
Just as long as that Mrs Geddes isn't planning miscegenation. That would be shocking.

Is it even possible for the Scotch to interbreed with humans? We'll need to ask Embra. I understand her beau is a fellow Scotch, so her own confinement is perfectly safe, of course.


Edit: I've gone too far, haven't I?

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quote:
Originally posted by GenYus:
quote:
Originally posted by niner domestic actual:
Little point of accuracy, it's Scotsman, not scotch. Scotch is a whiskey, broth or a mist but never a person. [Smile]

It can also be tape.
Or a boiled egg wrapped in sausage meat, covered in breadcrumbs.

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Originally posted by Dara bhur gCara:

Is it even possible for the Scotch to interbreed with humans? We'll need to ask Embra. I understand her beau is a fellow Scotch, so her own confinement is perfectly safe, of course.


Edit: I've gone too far, haven't I?

You more or less get away with it because you're Irish*. We know its just jealosy talking for being consistantly voted the SECOND sexiest accent in the world... [Big Grin]


*and because your post reminds me of the "Scotch Mist", the Garth Marenghies Darkplace episode.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dara bhur gCara:

Edit: I've gone too far, haven't I?

I think there is no limit on how far you can go where Scots are concerned, Dara.

And apparently Embra thinks so too. Ahem.

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We'll need to ask Embra. I understand her beau is a fellow Scotch, so her own confinement is perfectly safe, of course.

Well, the 20 week scan looks a bit like Donald Duck, but it's early days yet.

I just hope the poor wee thing doesn't inherit my tail. Damn my English genes.

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[highjack] The Scotch Bonnet is the North Carolina state seashell. [/highjack]

-kitoboo

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[continuing hijack]Why does North Carolina had a 'state seashell'? Hertfordshire doesn't - but there again Hertfordshire doesn't have a coastline.[/continuing hijack]

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Hi, Jack!

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Good question, Andrew. North Carolina has dozens of state symbols including two kinds of berries (strawberry and blueberry). We do have a coastline though and I have found Scotch Bonnets there myself.

As to why we have a state seashell, I don't really know. I guess we just like state symbols and it's a pretty shell.

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The General Assembly of 1965 designated the Scotch Bonnet (pronounced bonay) as the State Shell. (Session Laws, 1965, c. 681).
Official State Symbols of North Carolina

BTW, I live in Scotland County.

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BNP ballerina stumbles into the spotlight.

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The Sugar Plum Fairy in English National Ballet’s production of The Nutcracker had to confront angry colleagues before yesterday’s matinee performance after she was revealed to be a member of the British National Party.

Her opposition to immigration is a sensitive issue at the ballet company because nine of her ten fellow principal dancers — including the father of her child — are immigrants.

Yat-Sen Chang, who has been Clarke’s partner for five years, was born in Cuba and has a Chinese father.

Only one other principal, Sarah McIlroy, is British. The rest are Cuban, Estonian, Georgian, Russian, Czech or Japanese.

The dancers were instructed not to comment yesterday, but Clarke said in a recent interview that she does not mix with the other performers outside working hours. “I don’t socialise with people in the company,” she said. “It’s all too much.”



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[snip] nine of her ten fellow principal dancers — including the father of her child — are immigrants. [snip] Clarke said in a recent interview that she does not mix with the other performers outside working hours.
Now I'm wondering if the "mixing" that produced her child occurred during working hours. [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by kitoboo:
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The General Assembly of 1965 designated the Scotch Bonnet (pronounced bonay as the State Shell. (Session Laws, 1965, c. 681).
Official State Symbols of North Carolina

BTW, I live in Scotland County.

-kitoboo

The pronunciation is weird to me, as bonnet is pronounced as it it is written over here.

Also, Dara, I do hope you're not going to judge all of Scotland by the "people" of Scumdee.

(I kid - my best friend lives in Dunde - but it does seem to have a rather large number of problems).

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I've never actualy heard anyone pronounce it bonay.

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Fun though it is to mock these ninnies, I suppose the question has to be asked: how has it come to pass that "respectable" folk (including the toothsome Ms Clarke) are now flocking to the banner of the British Nazi-Moron Party? I can understand their traditional core support among those who are ill-educated, inarticulate, and (not to put too fine a point on it) thick, but these new middle class members really ought to know better. What anxieties are they suffering to make them think this way? (if I can use "think" in the same breath as BNP, which is unlikely).
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I was reading Part II of the story and couldn't help but notice this part:

RVP, Railway Tavern

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Those who gather at one of the most popular Saturday evening RVPs, outside Liverpool Street station in London, are generally redirected to a second-floor bar above the Railway Tavern, a pub a few hundred yards away. This is a popular venue for BNP buffets and quiz nights: it was here that the party's London activists held their Christmas party the weekend before last.
Gaah! Can I suggest that we drop this one from our list of potential meeting spots...?
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quote:
Originally posted by Zachary Fizz:
Fun though it is to mock these ninnies, I suppose the question has to be asked: how has it come to pass that "respectable" folk (including the toothsome Ms Clarke) are now flocking to the banner of the British Nazi-Moron Party? I can understand their traditional core support among those who are ill-educated, inarticulate, and (not to put too fine a point on it) thick, but these new middle class members really ought to know better. What anxieties are they suffering to make them think this way? (if I can use "think" in the same breath as BNP, which is unlikely).

Maybe they haven't heard of UKIP. At least with UKIP one can disguise one's racism by claiming to be nationalist instead.

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Originally posted by BringTheNoise:
quote:
Originally posted by kitoboo:
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The General Assembly of 1965 designated the Scotch Bonnet (pronounced bonay as the State Shell. (Session Laws, 1965, c. 681).
Official State Symbols of North Carolina

BTW, I live in Scotland County.

-kitoboo

The pronunciation is weird to me, as bonnet is pronounced as it it is written over here.

Also, Dara, I do hope you're not going to judge all of Scotland by the "people" of Scumdee.

(I kid - my best friend lives in Dunde - but it does seem to have a rather large number of problems).

Oh, no. I spent seven years living in the small Scotch hamlet of Glasgow, where I was finally accepted by the primitive herdsmen and barter-traders there. In time, I grew to understand their strange chantings and gruntings, and realised that, really, Glaswegians are a lot like people. Only tiny.

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Originally posted by BringTheNoise:
Also, Dara, I do hope you're not going to judge all of Scotland by the "people" of Scumdee.

(I kid - my best friend lives in Dundee - but it does seem to have a rather large number of problems).

The main problem with Dundee is its proximity to Aberdeen.

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Oh no, I've provoked infighting among the Scotchish!

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Oh no, I've provoked infighting among the Scotchish!

Bah - nothing worse than an Oirish with delusions of grandeur. Betraying your Celtic roots and sucking up to the English oppressors by slagging off your kinsmen, the Scots. You're an Uncle Tam (like 'Uncle Tom' - you see what I've done there?)

Your sort will be first against the wall come the revolution.

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Aberdeen is a wonderful place. I'll hear nothing against it. At least most of the junkies have the decency to be polite when begging for change in Aberdeen.

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quote:
Originally quoted by Richard W:

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This is a popular venue for BNP buffets and quiz nights....

I imagine it goes like this: "We must smash the the vile foreign immigrants who are polluting our Anglo-Saxon master race. Rise up and cleanse the land of their scum! But first, please help yourself from the selection of cheese nibbles and settle down for some trivia quiz fun!"
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Yes, Aberdeen is a very nice town. Oh, you mean Aberdeen, Scotland not Aberdeen, North Carolina.

Nevermind.

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<Watches you all with the smug aloofness of one who has lived much of her life in the Fair City of Perth>

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quote:
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<Watches you all with the smug aloofness of one who has lived much of her life in the Fair City of Perth>

I think you'll find thats the FORMER city of Perth... Never mind, I'm sure if you're good, one day you'll get to move to the big smoke... [Razz]

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<Watches you all with the smug aloofness of one who has lived much of her life in the Fair City of Perth>

I live in neither Dundee or Aberdeen, but I'm currently commuting to Aberdeen Uni a couple of days a week and I have to say in all honesty that, as a casual visitor, Aberdeen city is one of the grimmest, bleakest, and most wretched places I've ever been (and I've been to both Thurso and Wick). Dundee on the other hand gets the most sunshine of any place in Scotland and the city centre is nice and compact. It's got a nicer vibe all round. And it has a big statue of Desperate Dan - what more do you want?

Just this minute about to drive through to the Fair City of Perth actually - lovely place, but the last bastion of welly-boot-wearing Tories in Scotland, which unfortunately means it must be scourged. Unfortunately your sort will be up against the wall right behind Dara's sort, and the Aberdonian sorts, and also the Edinburgh swine, and the Weegies, and all the bloody highlanders and islanders, and those on the border (too close to the English oppressors), come the revolution.

Scotland for the Scots!! (the right sort of Scots anyway)

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