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Now, how is this suppose to work? Kids have to go to the bathroom so the teacher has to escort them. Who watches the class the teacher is suppose to be teaching while he's in the bathroom?
quote:"In our judgement, now, the students did not do anything to warrant disciplinary action," Field told The Associated Press. "They did what they were told to do. We hold the adult responsible for what happened."
Would that be the adult who made the rule that students had to be escorted but didn't provide anyone to do the escorting, leaving it to teachers who, presumably, are suppose to stay with the classes they are supposed to be teaching?
Sounds like the teacher is in a Catch 22.
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I don't understand why school in the article is making it sound like peeing in a bottle is a bad thing? I agree it was a catch 22 and I don't even know that anyone (except the poliy makers) should be "punished" at all. It sounds like someone was going to get into trouble no matter how they did it, either the boys went unescorted or the teacher went leaving his class unattended. I am curious what the teacher tried before he had the boys pee in the bottle.
On a side note my aunt would always bring an empty bottle on road trips when he three boys were young so when they had to pee they wouldnt' need to stop for a bathroom. My cousins had small bladders(still do). Another question I have is where did he have them pee in the bottle and was it private? Also I'm curious how the boys feel about this incidence.
Edited to add, I'm curious if this is a boys only school because there is no way a girl could pee in a bottle. If it is co-ed thank goodness the girls didn't have to pee.
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I agree that the rule puts the teacher in a very awkward position, having to either supervise or escort, but still. I'd think that they could ask a teacher in a neighboring room to make sure that none of their class got too out of hand while they made a quick trip-- that's how they did it when I was in grammar and high school.
Peeing in a bottle seems a little extreme, just because of the privacy issues involved. And the possible germs-- did they all pee in the same bottle? What did they do with it after? Did other classmates see this?
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So because three boys have to pee, two classes are interrupted while one teacher takes them to the bathrooms and another teacher watches two classes. How many times a day does that scenario take place in that school district?
One the face of it, this is a badly thought out plan.
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Sara Claus- Not disagreeing with you that it's a horrible policy. I think it's pretty dumb, and accomplishes nothing, because a kid who is determined to cause trouble will, regardless of the amount of supervision. I just don't think the way it was handled in this instance was the best choice.
Of course, hopefully this publicity will make the school change its policy, so there's that.
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quote:Originally posted by happyholidaysfrog: I'm curious if this is a boys only school because there is no way a girl could pee in a bottle. If it is co-ed thank goodness the girls didn't have to pee.
Not to hijack, but my wife found two 12 oz. waterbottles (top opening the size of the standard soda bottle) in my seven year old daughters room that she filled with pee. It is possible. We're still trying to figure out how and why.
ETA: What ever happened to hall monitors & bathroom passes?
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quote:Originally posted by happyholidaysfrog: I don't understand why school in the article is making it sound like peeing in a bottle is a bad thing?
quote:Another question I have is where did he have them pee in the bottle and was it private?
I suspect that privacy, rather than the bottle-peeing itself, was the issue. It sounds like they peed in the bottle in the classroom, which is probably not a private setting. It's a public school, and most public schools are coed, so there were probably girls in the room. Peeing in front of casual acquaintances of the opposite sex is not generally an accepted activity in our society.
If 8th-graders really can't be trusted to go to the bathroom and come back (a sad but quite possibly true state of affairs), then the school needs hall monitors.
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I'm becoming increasingly concerned that those charged with educating our children seem to be losing touch for so-called common sense. Right now in this forum alone we've got a banned costume sword picture, a prohibition against purses and now a self-contradictory policy regarding restroom breaks. Is this some kind of experiment in critical thinking for the students, that they learn what not to do by observing the consequence of bizarre policy?
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