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pob14
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Chicago Tribune story

The story may require registration. In summary: The city provides the space for a "Christkindlmarket", a festival/marketplace run by the German-American Chamber of Commerce, every Christmas season. They were going to show trailers for "The Nativity Story" on monitors there, paid for by the filmmakers, to help pay for the market.

The city has asked them not to, on this theory:
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"Our guidance was that this very prominently placed advertisement would not only be insensitive to the many people of different faiths who come to enjoy the market for its food and unique gifts, but also it would be contrary to acceptable advertising standards suggested to the many festivals holding events on Daley Plaza," Jim Law, executive director of the Mayor's Office of Special Events, said in a statement.
Now, I'm in favor of the separation of church and state, but if they're all that worried about offending somebody, shouldn't they call it something other than "Christ-child-market"? Is anybody actually going to be offended by an ad for a movie about the Christmas story being played at a Christmas festival?

Edited to fix tags.

Further edit: Dammit, I can never keep Rantidote and Soapbox Derby straight. I meant to post it there.

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Maybe the people at the Mayor's Office of Special Events are not as fluent in German as you are?

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Ach du lieber!

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Color me confused, a Christkindlmarkt is basically one big commercial celebration of all the tackiness that makes Christmas so special, I don't believe that a trailer for a Nativity Story would make much of a difference, why with the eyesores they sell as ornaments these days it would probably be the least offensive thing in the whole place.

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Sigh. Does this mean that they'll no longer dye the river green on St. Patrick's day for fear of leaving the non-leprechauns out and hurting their feelings?

Chicago has so many ethnic festivals... in the summer there's one practically every week somewhere in the city. Some others have religious overtones as well, and it always seems to be no big deal, as it's part of the culture being presented. OTOH, the Nativity movie isn't about the German culture per se... so I can kind of see the complaint. If it were a movie specifically made in Germany or something.. it'd be a bit more relevant to the German American C.O.C.

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I agree with the officials' decision. People just shouldn't be allowed to peacefully assemble to practice their religious customs! It's not like there are any laws that state this is required...oh...wait.
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Originally posted by dreams of thinking machines:
I agree with the officials' decision. People just shouldn't be allowed to peacefully assemble to practice their religious customs! It's not like there are any laws that state this is required...oh...wait.
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No one is preventing anyone from gathering anywhere or doing anything. The city recommended that the organizers of the festival turn down advertising support from the makers of the film "The Nativity". I seriously doubt that they are doing this on religious grounds, as this is an event called "Christkindlemarket" that has been held on city property for years (there's also a nativity scene, a Christmas tree, a menorah, and a Kwanzaa candle in Daly Plaza, where the market is held). My understanding is that what was considered objectionable was the idea of setting up video screens that would play scenes from the movie, as that would be against Chicago's policy on advertisments on city property. (I can't find the offical policy online, but I seem to recall that it would be okay to have signs indicating that the movie "is a proud sponsor of" the event, but that any blatant 'advertising' is off-limits)

There's no 'war on Christmas' to be seen here, folks, move along.

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Simply Madeline, I would be looking to agree with you, but then why did Jim Law also make a point of saying the trailers:

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...would not only be insensitive to the many people of different faiths who come to enjoy the market for its food and unique gifts...
Where does this idea that it would be "insensitive" to people of other faiths come from, and why is it considered relevant?

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Simply Madeline
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Originally posted by Embra:
Simply Madeline, I would be looking to agree with you, but then why did Jim Law also make a point of saying the trailers:

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...would not only be insensitive to the many people of different faiths who come to enjoy the market for its food and unique gifts...
Where does this idea that it would be "insensitive" to people of other faiths come from, and why is it considered relevant?
Hmmm, don't know. Maybe his point is that if they show this trailer, they'd have to show trailers from movies about all the holidays being celebrated at this time of year. And nobody wants to see trailers from that horrible Adam Sandler Hanukkah movie. Or maybe it's the fact that there's already a nativity scene on the plaza and having an additional reference to the nativity would be overshadowing the other religious and secular symbols of the season on display. Or maybe he's saying that people of all faiths are offended by blatant commercials by a movie studio.
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Yes, you're right - he doesn't say it would be offensive to people of "other" faiths. Just that it would be offensive to people in general, regardless of faith.
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