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it's on youtube, but here is a set up of it in the globe and mail. I've watched it quite a few times, it's rather captivating.
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Wow... I keep watching it over and over. Very good... very, very good. I really like Dove lately, with their "Real Beauty" ads. This one is awesome. Thanks for sharing.
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That was fascinating. I agree with what one of the judges said--Dove has done a great job of positioning itself and getting on my "radar."
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quote:Originally posted by Ryda Wong: Awesome, Callee. Just awesome.
I was trying to think of another way to way to word what I was thinking, but I can't so, what Ryda said
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quote:Originally posted by Thomas A. Anderson: I thought she was more attractive before the 'enhancements'.
Well... the sad thing is that a lot of people don't. I didn't see anything wrong with her before, but she certainly did look like a supermodel afterwards.
I'm one of those who's been touched in the head by the media's images of what beauty should be - I'm trying to fix that.
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Makes you think before wishing you looked like someone on a magazine cover.
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quote:Originally posted by KatrinaDuck: I'm one of those who's been touched in the head by the media's images of what beauty should be - I'm trying to fix that.
When you find out how, let me know.
Ryda "who's tired to death of hating her body" Wong.
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quote:Originally posted by KatrinaDuck: I'm one of those who's been touched in the head by the media's images of what beauty should be - I'm trying to fix that.
When you find out how, let me know.
Ryda "who's tired to death of hating her body" Wong.
You know, the thing that finally made me accept my body (pretty much) for what it is was alt-porn modelling. I've always considered myself to be too short, chubby, and square-faced, but seeing my body on screen over and over desensitized me to its flaws, while at the same time exposing me to the opinions of hundreds of people who liked my body FOR its supposed flaws. I'm sure this is not the effect that modelling would have for everyone, but for me it really made a big difference.
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I have been hovering over the keyboard trying to find a way to put this...
Firstly, it's a brilliant piece of work (that was easy).
Secondly, the consequences of that advert are so far-reaching. So much pain and self-hatred for many women who feel they don't match up to the impossible ideal and can't make peace with that, or see it for the sham it is and know it in their hearts.
This ad could so easily have been quite frightening, but they've managed to strike the balance very carefully so that the tone is one of gentle concern, and of carrying support to the viewer, rather than outrage pouring anger upon fear.
I'm left saddened by the way things are, but happy to have the sham illustrated for me and encouraged that the advert has been made at all. The whole effect is reassuring. I'm really impressed.
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quote:Originally posted by KatrinaDuck: I'm one of those who's been touched in the head by the media's images of what beauty should be - I'm trying to fix that.
When you find out how, let me know.
Ryda "who's tired to death of hating her body" Wong.
You know, the thing that finally made me accept my body (pretty much) for what it is was alt-porn modelling. I've always considered myself to be too short, chubby, and square-faced, but seeing my body on screen over and over desensitized me to its flaws, while at the same time exposing me to the opinions of hundreds of people who liked my body FOR its supposed flaws. I'm sure this is not the effect that modelling would have for everyone, but for me it really made a big difference.
I know it's not the same thing, and I'm not trying to say it is, because it obviously isn't but this ad already made me think of the following.
I sometimes do hair modeling for my friend's salon, which usually is just me showing up and they do tings to my hair to teach the newer people. This last time though I got professional makeup and had pictures taken by a professional photographer because they were sending the pictures in to hair style magazines. When I looked at the pictures and saw how model-y I looked in them (with just the hair, makeup and lighting as it was before any computer changes were made, if there were any) all I could think was "I wish I really looked like that"
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quote:Originally posted by KatrinaDuck: I'm one of those who's been touched in the head by the media's images of what beauty should be - I'm trying to fix that.
When you find out how, let me know.
Ryda "who's tired to death of hating her body" Wong.
You know, the thing that finally made me accept my body (pretty much) for what it is was alt-porn modelling. I've always considered myself to be too short, chubby, and square-faced, but seeing my body on screen over and over desensitized me to its flaws, while at the same time exposing me to the opinions of hundreds of people who liked my body FOR its supposed flaws. I'm sure this is not the effect that modelling would have for everyone, but for me it really made a big difference.
Last year, I was approached for nude modeling at one of the university figure drawing classes. $25 an hour, all above-board and legit. And I needed the money. No way. Not at 220, not at 110, not now.
I have no problem being nude with me (or with SO). However, I have a compulsive fear of being judged, and my weakest attribute to me is my looks. I could never, ever do that.
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Due to the curse of dial-up I'm unable to view the video but I'll have access to DSL this weekend. Until then, I can't judge the ad, but I'm going to agree with this comment:
quote:It’s good to see that the number one video on YouTube can be something smarter than a cat flushing a toilet.
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Candy: as I said, it's different for different people. I know several girls for whom nude modelling was a horrible detriment to their self esteem. For me it was eye-opening to realize that most people did not notice my flaws or liked them. The website I was on was supposed to seem "amateur" though so my photos weren't retouched much.
Ryda: I feel lucky every day that I managed to make it through childhood and adolescence without too much damage to my self esteem. While I go through periods of self hatred due to depression, and while I was for years overly critical of my body, I seem to have it much easier than many. I guess all I was trying to say with my post was that sometimes affirmation comes from strange places and you women shouldn't give up on one day loving your bodies.
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quote:Originally posted by ThistleSmelt: I guess all I was trying to say with my post was that sometimes affirmation comes from strange places and you women shouldn't give up on one day loving your bodies.
Actually, I just thought about when I was most comfortable in my own body.
In the dungeon. First, because there's all sorts of nekkid or nearly nekkid bodies in a dungeon. Secondly, because, in sub-space, I wasn't responsible for my nudity. SO, as the dom, was.
I'm not even sure I can analyze what that means (presence as an object, the gaze...blah, blah), but it took all that judgement off me....
So, yeah, I get that.
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I guess the most important part is, does it actually sell Dove products? I would think it'd be more apt to sell something like Glamour Shots.
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Add me to the list of people tired of hating their bodies. It's horrible how we let the media tell us who is beautiful and who isn't. For example, my husband tells me every day how gorgeous and sexy he finds me, but I can't help but think he's crazy because I'm not what the media considers to be attractive. How f*cked up is that?
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quote:Originally posted by magpie: I guess the most important part is, does it actually sell Dove products? I would think it'd be more apt to sell something like Glamour Shots.
It's not an ad for Dove products, so it's not about selling Dove products. It's an ad for the Campaign For Real Beauty. I suppose that in the end, by promoting the denigration of the 'beauty industry' Dove is positioning itself as a caring brand, therefore incidentally increasing sales somewhat.
But the ad itself, is not to increase sales.
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Does anyone else remember the PSA in (I think) the mid to late 80's that was supposed to be about liking yourself for what you were?
It showed a girl looking at a model in a poster and wishing she was as pretty as the model, then the model comes out of the poster and says something to the girl about what she (the model) really looks like. They then do a reverse make-up on the model until she looks like an average woman and absolutely nothing like the woman in the poster. That ad has always stuck with me, and I would hope that this ad has the same effect on people that that PSA did on me (recognizing the illusion for what it is).
quote:Originally posted by magpie: I guess the most important part is, does it actually sell Dove products? I would think it'd be more apt to sell something like Glamour Shots.
It's not an ad for Dove products, so it's not about selling Dove products. It's an ad for the Campaign For Real Beauty. I suppose that in the end, by promoting the denigration of the 'beauty industry' Dove is positioning itself as a caring brand, therefore incidentally increasing sales somewhat.
But the ad itself, is not to increase sales.
I already use several Dove products, because I happen to like them, but this ad made me glad my money is going towards that company. Also, I touched my friend's hair the other day and it was so soft I asked what kind of shampoo he used. He said Head and Shoulders and so I was thinking about switching once I'd run out of my Dove shampoo. Today I decided I'd rather keep buying the Dove, partially because of the ad.
NeeCD I very vaguely remember something like that (more that it sounds familiar than I actually remember). I'd like to see it.
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quote:Originally posted by KatrinaDuck: I'm one of those who's been touched in the head by the media's images of what beauty should be - I'm trying to fix that.
When you find out how, let me know.
Ryda "who's tired to death of hating her body" Wong.
You know, the thing that finally made me accept my body (pretty much) for what it is was alt-porn modelling. I've always considered myself to be too short, chubby, and square-faced, but seeing my body on screen over and over desensitized me to its flaws, while at the same time exposing me to the opinions of hundreds of people who liked my body FOR its supposed flaws. I'm sure this is not the effect that modelling would have for everyone, but for me it really made a big difference.
Last year, I was approached for nude modeling at one of the university figure drawing classes. $25 an hour, all above-board and legit. And I needed the money. No way. Not at 220, not at 110, not now.
I have no problem being nude with me (or with SO). However, I have a compulsive fear of being judged, and my weakest attribute to me is my looks. I could never, ever do that.
Actually, and I could be wrong about this as I have yet to take that figure drawing class that I should have taken already, many figure drawing classes like to use models of varying sizes and shapes. Since it's a study of the human form, the more practice and knowlage an artist has about different body types the better. And frankly I'd get bored drawing the same stick thin super model all the time. If it's a serious figure drawing class, I doubt there would be much judging on the basis of your body.
If you look at classical art, many of the female figures in paintings had a much fuller form than the models today. In my art history class we were shown slides of figures of extreamly large stone age woman. Probably stood as a firtiltiy symbol...or, as one of my classmates put it, "caveman porn."
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That's an awesome piece of work. Add me to those who thought she looked better, or at least "good" before the makeup and airbrushing. And I thought she looked "good" after the makeup as well, but the airbrushing, man, after seeing what she transformed from, just made her look completely alien. I've never liked the supermodel look, and I likely never will, seeing people enjoying this kind of thing helps reaffirm that I'm not a complete freak.
PS - I hope men and women both can take away something from this, but I wonder if they'll do a guy version? It would be interesting to see how an average looking guy with a set of decent muscles becomes Mr. Super-Model-Playboy-Body-Builder.
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Most of the Dove products I've seen work a lot better than their opposition. Adverts like this only enhance that viewpoint.
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