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Cheris
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Couldn't agree more on The Ramones. I love The Ramones, I really can't stand the Sex Pistols. I've tried to get past the part where they were created to promote a clothing store, just can't do it. The Clash, I'm coming to appreciate more and more.

I love Shatner, but I really think he fits here. Every time I see David Caruso act, I think he's doing a Shatner impression but without the charm.

I know somebody will beat me on the head with a frying pan for saying this, but I have to say Lou Reed. That's only my personal opinion. I think Reed has the image and he can write, but I'm not crazy about his singing.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cheris:
Couldn't agree more on The Ramones. I love The Ramones, I really can't stand the Sex Pistols. I've tried to get past the part where they were created to promote a clothing store, just can't do it. The Clash, I'm coming to appreciate more and more.

I love Shatner, but I really think he fits here. Every time I see David Caruso act, I think he's doing a Shatner impression but without the charm.

I know somebody will beat me on the head with a frying pan for saying this, but I have to say Lou Reed. That's only my personal opinion. I think Reed has the image and he can write, but I'm not crazy about his singing.

Fair enough about the Pistols, but they did the right thing by imploding after one proper album, an album that was pretty damn stellar. They lets them exist in memory as more of an event than an actual musical force. I revere the Ramones more than is healthy, but even I will say that they went on for far too long; the last great album they released was "Subterranean Jungle."

I also see your argument for Lou (another hero of mine). Although he's tried very hard to be recognized as a poet separate from his singing. Bob Dylan would fall under that umbrella as well.

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Cheris
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I revere the Ramones more than is healthy, but even I will say that they went on for far too long; the last great album they released was "Subterranean Jungle."

Couldn't agree more. They really should have stopped long before they did. You're right about The Pistols too, they quit when they should have and that made a difference.

To me, Reed (and I do love Reed) should take the Jim Carrol approach. Write, sing some and leave it at that. His writing is stellar. His writing is also why I've dubbed him the coolest man on Earth.

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Britney: Her images has always been of more interest than her talent. The image has changed a few times -- from innocent, to kittenish, to coquette, to trailer trash, and is now possibly on the upswing, but these are the things people remember. Even her memorable songs worked because they tied into the perception dujour.

(Gossipy aside: I kinda would like to see her back with Justin Timberlake. Cameron Diaz should be with Drew Barrymore [Wink] )

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Whitney Houston in recent years. It takes a lot of negative gossip, and a textbook defunctional marriage, to take away from the memory of a powerful singing voice, but there it is.

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Ashton Kutcher. At this point he is more seventies show,Punk'd, boytoy than anything else. I understand there is evidence he can produce, and that he's actually smart, but I don't think that's the common perception.

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Prince. Amazing talent. Phenomenal. Most people have just come to see him as a weird little man.

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Michael Jackson. Aint touching it, but he wouldn't want me to anyhow.

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Baldwin Brothers: Just a trainwreck.
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Marilyn Monroe/James Dean/Jayne Mansfield/Most celebs that died young or tragically.

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I nominate Courtney Love. This needs no explanation.
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weird, I don't mind Lou Reed or Bob Dylan's singing..

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weird, I don't mind Lou Reed or Bob Dylan's singing.. I agree with Max Renn on the sex pistols

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How about a couple of the earliest "famous for being famous rather than for having talent" ladies, Zsa Zsa and Eva Gabor? Although Eva was funny on Green Acres.

Marilyn Monroe made some classic films, and she was good at what she did, but her early death led to her becoming iconized waaaaaay out of proportion to her talent.

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Sister Ray
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quote:
Originally posted by Freshman:
weird, I don't mind Lou Reed or Bob Dylan's singing..

Neither do I.

Sister "maybe it's because I can't sing myself?" Ray

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Jennifer Lopez, none of her movies has done much much at the box office and her chart sucess is seemingly the result of payola.
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quote:
Originally posted by Max_Renn:
Fair enough about the Pistols, but they did the right thing by imploding after one proper album, an album that was pretty damn stellar.

My personal view of Never Mind The Bollocks aside (4 good songs, lots of crap), I'd argue that Johnny Rotten got out at the right time, while the rest of the band limped on and further destroyed their image with some truly atrocious singles - and then they all got together to collectively piss on their legacy in 1996 with their reunion tour.

God Save The Queen is still one of the greatest songs ever recorded though.

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What would you say the four good songs are? I think most of the album's all right cept for the song "New York" since its apparently a diatribe against the New York Dolls

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God Save The Queen
Anarchy In The UK
Pretty Vacant
Holidays In The Sun

The rest if utter trash, trying to use primary school level puns (e.g. Submission) or intentionally inflammatory imagery (e.g. Bodies) to cover the lack of anything to actually say.

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Sister Ray
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It's always been my opinion that Rotten understood the band and took it not seriously at all, while the others seemed to believe they were doing something of importance.

Sister "but i still get a kick from reading about their american tour..." Ray

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[/qb][/QUOTE]Sid is everything I hate about the self-parody punk had become by 1979. "You can be a non-conformist too if you dress just like me!". Bah.
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I fell the same way about Harley Davidson,"I'm such a rebel I only wear things that say Harley Davidson on them."

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quote:
Originally posted by Sister Ray:
It's always been my opinion that Rotten understood the band and took it not seriously at all, while the others seemed to believe they were doing something of importance.

Sister "but i still get a kick from reading about their american tour..." Ray

Yeah, Johnny seems sorta reasonable in interviews I've read. It seems he did care about Sid, but was pissed that Sid had become addicted to heroin.

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What about John Wayne?
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Mosherette
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheris:
I love Shatner, but I really think he fits here. Every time I see David Caruso act, I think he's doing a Shatner impression but without the charm.

My god. I've being trying to place what I can't stand about Caruso for ages, and you've got it spot on. Shatner without the charm! [lol]


quote:
Originally posted by ChelleGame:
Whitney Houston in recent years. It takes a lot of negative gossip, and a textbook defunctional marriage, to take away from the memory of a powerful singing voice, but there it is.

"Powerful singing voice"... that's one way to put it I suppose [Wink] Unfortunately the negativity and dysfunctional marriage have still not managed to wipe Iiiiiiiiii-eeeee-iiiiiiiiiii will always love yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo-oo-oo-oo-ooooooooooooou from my brain [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mosherette:
"Powerful singing voice"... that's one way to put it I suppose [Wink] Unfortunately the negativity and dysfunctional marriage have still not managed to wipe Iiiiiiiiii-eeeee-iiiiiiiiiii will always love yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo-oo-oo-oo-ooooooooooooou from my brain [Frown]

Marry me.

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Mosherette
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Oh, OK then.

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Richard W
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Wedding bells!

D'oh! I wanted to post my picture of Mosh and trollface admiring a wedding dress together, but Photobucket is down.

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Congrats to Mosherette and Trollface. Wish you all the best. [Big Grin]

But back to the OP:

Brigitte Bardot is the first that comes to my mind. Terrible actress, even worse as a singer, the Paris Hilton of 60's Saint-Tropez.

I'd also like to give honorable mentions to :

Josef Beuys (german conceptual artist): A cool hat. That's all.

Jean-Luc Godard (franco-swiss film director) : "I make movies no one understands - I must be a genius".

Jean-Claude VanDamme (belgian he-man) : "can't act, can't talk, can't even think... but are you aware of my muscles ?"

Victoria Beckham (ex-spice girl) : 'nuff said.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sister Ray:
quote:
Originally posted by Freshman:
weird, I don't mind Lou Reed or Bob Dylan's singing..

Neither do I.

Sister "maybe it's because I can't sing myself?" Ray

Along with excellent poets & lyricists whose singing talent is still up for debate: Leonard Cohen. But my God, what a voice.


I think Paris Hilton should be disqualified from this list. She was never an artist to start with, unless you count marketing as art. I'll suggest Lindsay Lohan. While I personally see little talent, it doesn't seem to matter now anyways. She's the girl from the broken home, now with eating disorder and drug history.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mosherette:
Oh, OK then.

Hooray!

Take note, fellas, that's how you romance a lady.

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Mosherette
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Hey! I ain't no lady.

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Photobucket's back up. We saw it coming:

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Can't you just see the ideas forming?

(Sorry about the large picture in the thread, but it is a special occasion.)

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quote:
Originally posted by VersesBatman:
George Hamilton. I know him from the movie "Love at First Bite", but he's mostly known as the guy with a tan.

To me he'll always be the killer in Columbo, even if he was only in two episodes.

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Actually, that looks like me and the best man are eyeing each other up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Toys for big boys.:
quote:
Originally posted by VersesBatman:
George Hamilton. I know him from the movie "Love at First Bite", but he's mostly known as the guy with a tan.

To me he'll always be the killer in Columbo, even if he was only in two episodes.
To me he'll always be the "what the hell was Coppola smoking?" pinch-hitter for Robert Duvall in Godfather 3.

Max "Everytime I think I'm out blah blah blah" Renn

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quote:
Originally posted by Mosherette:
Hey! I ain't no lady.

Beg pudding. Take note, lads, that's how you bag a bit of skirt.

quote:
Actually, that looks like me and the best man are eyeing each other up.
Strumpet!

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quote:
Originally posted by Mosherette:
Actually, that looks like me and the best man are eyeing each other up.

That's what I said when I first posted it, but you denied it and claimed to be looking at the dress! Bah.
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Mosherette
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*memory failure*

To be honest, I think I was looking at the dress of the other woman and thinking, "You actually put that on and though "Yes, that looks lovely"?!"

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and managed to clash in style and colour with every single aspect of the bride's dress?

That picture needs a caption competition.

SOmething along the lines of "Can I spare one of these earrings to save money on a proper engagement ring?"

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