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I wouldn't say that it's odd that they don't twang (I know you're joking, though)
I imagine HRG was sent to TX by whoever he works for, to set up the compound, because of its inconspicuousness...he's probably not native, and I think our parents shape our accents a lot.
I've lived here almost my whole life, but my parents aren't natives, and I have very little accent....unless it's to my advantage to rock one.
I was just starting to like Eden too.
Is anyone else reading the nbc.com comics?? The one that they posted this week, I could swear I read a couple of weeks ago.....if they hadn't posted it earlier, it's the most specific deja vu ever.
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vfwchick, thank you for reassuring me that I'm not the only one who was thinking that.
As for the ending tonight, I could only say "Holy hell of all hells." This is gonna get madcrazyawesome in so many ways.
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According to nbc.com the show returns on January 1st. For anyone missing episodes, here's the linky for the videos on NBC. Warning -- you have to sit through some commericals.
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For those of you who don't enjoy the show but really want to...maybe you'd enjoy it more if you didn't pick it apart, or actively try to guess what's going to happen on every little event.
No snark intended...personally, I just usually try to sit back & suspend reality for a while. And I'm really enjoying the show.
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Grumpy, on the subject of the "Texas twang"...
I'm a native Texan, born of Texans, and raised all over Texas. Completely devoid of twang. To me, they sound exactly like I would expect. Claire's mom sounds just like my boss when she talks. I was pleased at the lack of fakey-fakey accents and cowboy hats, actually.
The classic Texas accent is most prevalent in rural areas. Suburbs and cities tend to use Standard American English. Midland-Odessa is sizeable enough that while some would have a twang (the Diner waitresses), others wouldn't (the Bennets). That's been my experience the few times I've been there. As the Bennets seem to be affluent suburbanites, I would expect them to use a standard accent over a twang (likewise with the cool kids at school).
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quote:Originally posted by kingfan1978: For those of you who don't enjoy the show but really want to...maybe you'd enjoy it more if you didn't pick it apart, or actively try to guess what's going to happen on every little event.
But...but...that's the enjoyable part, complaining about the show!
Soooo back to actively trying to guess what is going to happen
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I tend to agree that the cheerleader who was supposed to be saved might not be Claire. If she had been killed instead of her friend, Peter wouldn't have been able to use her power to survive the fall (and I am assuming it was her power he used, not Sylar's). If Peter died then, he wouldn't be around to turn into Mr. Bombtastic in the future.
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Here's something that hasn't been discussed. A very good point was brought up in the show itself:
Is it, "Save the Cheerleader, save the world." An "if, then" statement. Or is it, "Save the Cheerleader. Save the world." Two separate statements? Maybe saving the cheerleader was important to someone in the future, but wasn't neccessary to save the world. I hadn't even thought of this until they brought it up on the show, and was surprised, considering how much fans usually pick these things apart. It's like we all automatically accepted that saving the cheerleader meant saving the world.
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I tend to agree that the cheerleader who was supposed to be saved might not be Claire. If she had been killed instead of her friend, Peter wouldn't have been able to use her power to survive the fall
And if she had been killed, Sylar would have become practically invincible. That's a pretty crucial thing to avoid.
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quote:Originally posted by The Year Without A SeaPea: SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE
I tend to agree that the cheerleader who was supposed to be saved might not be Claire. If she had been killed instead of her friend, Peter wouldn't have been able to use her power to survive the fall
And if she had been killed, Sylar would have become practically invincible. That's a pretty crucial thing to avoid.
I don't know, Sylar seems pretty invincible already. I don't think they even captured him, I think he was just playing along so he could learn more about them.
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I tend to agree that the cheerleader who was supposed to be saved might not be Claire. If she had been killed instead of her friend, Peter wouldn't have been able to use her power to survive the fall (and I am assuming it was her power he used, not Sylar's). If Peter died then, he wouldn't be around to turn into Mr. Bombtastic in the future.
Or, possibly, saving "the cheerleader" doesn't automatically save the world. Maybe her death (in another timeline) set off a series of events which originally caused the explosion, but now those events will occur differently. Maybe Peter wasn't meant to be the one who blows up. Maybe he still isn't. After all, his first prophetic dream didn't match exactly with reality. Possibly, the message wasn't "Save the cheerleader, then everything will be ok." but "Save the cheerleader, and you will have a chance of saving the world."
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I was glad to see the show address the cheerleader/world connection, though I'm surprised there is this much confusion. It seems obvious to me that "save the cheerleader" was simply a catalyst to guide Peter toward contact with other Heroes. After that, Claire could fulfill her role in the second item on the agenda: "save the world."
Although is it really the world that's in jeopardy, or just NYC?
Any guesses as to what's ailing Peter? (No, he's not dead.) Two possibilities: first, he's suffereing from the lingering effects of mimicking Sylar. If Sylar's DNA is all messed up, as HRG claims, then perhaps Peter is sharing that junk. Possibility #2 is that Peter suffered some organ damage in the fall, and his brief contact with Claire wasn't enough to heal it fully. While this is the way I would go, it doesn't seem like what the show has in mind. (Especially since further contact with Claire at the jail should've made him better, not worse.)
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A non-spoilery observation about this week's episode: I'd be totally happy to watch a spinoff where Matt and Audrey just sit in a car and banter for an hour every week. They're just fun!
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After last week's episode (Peter is my favorite character), I called my best friend, who had just gone to bed after being awake for 24 hours, and sobbed at her. Then I got drunk off of really, really bad beer until four in the morning (Busch Lite bad). Then for the next two days I had a migraine. Not from hangover, an actual migraine. Turns out the same thing that gives me my deathly wine allergy makes me mildly allergic to beer (or so the doctor said). And this is why I am not allowed to watch TV.
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Goo, you must watch TV, you just have to try a different alcoholic beverage each time to see what does not give you a reaction. It is your duty so that other people with your affliction will benifit from your sacrifice.
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I'll stick to screwdrivers. They've never nearly killed me. If I am going to let shows turn me into a drunk, anyway. Anyway, glad to do my part for the effort.
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quote:Originally posted by Tabbymago: A non-spoilery observation about this week's episode: I'd be totally happy to watch a spinoff where Matt and Audrey just sit in a car and banter for an hour every week. They're just fun!
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Me too. They're fun. I must say, I'm starting to like Peter more and more. At least he doesn't do pretentious new-agey voice overs cough:Mohinder:cough. Hopefully by the time the next season premieres, the creators will realize that the voiceovers add nothing to the show (in fact, they detract) and leave them out entirely. I look forward to seeing more of Hiro and Nikki.
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Audrey told Parkman, "We have a suspect in custody. A hospice nurse from New York."
Parkman responds, "And you think he may be Sylar?"
Now, not to be sexist or anything, but if someone told you they had a nurse in custody, wouldn't you assume it was a woman? I would. I'd be wrong to, but I would.
quote:Originally posted by Amigone201: Now, not to be sexist or anything, but if someone told you they had a nurse in custody, wouldn't you assume it was a woman? I would. I'd be wrong to, but I would.
Not in the context of this investigation. They know Sylar is a man. In light of that, it makes sense that Matt (or anyone on the investigation) would assume male as soon as he heard the word "suspect" regardless of profession. I might assume female nurse if the statement had been about a witness rather than a suspect (but I've encountered enough male nurses that I'm not sure I would).
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While I was recapping Heroes for a recap site (before my arm got totally trashed), I realized that Mohinder's voice-overs are him reading from his father's book. Anyone else connect this?
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I think that horn rimmed glasses guy (clares adopted dad) has the ability to block other peoples powers. The haitian guy being around him a lot is a red herring. Thats why peter sneezed blood when clare and her dad came into his cell, because horn-rim was (consciously or not) inhibiting his healing. Think about it, have you EVER seen clare heal when he is around? And at the police station, psychic-cop-from-alias guy (I'm not great with names) couldnt read his OR clares mind when clare was in the room with him.
It also explains why sylar didnt reach through the glass and kill him, but he could reach through the glass and grab eden when he wasnt there.
If I remember right, Isaac couldnt paint when he was in the room.
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I was about to get all upset and start calling you a fool... but this makes perfect sense! Dang! How long until January 22nd?
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SikBoy, that's actually a really good theory. I was going to join Malruhn in calling you a fool until I thought about it. We only know that the Haitian erases memories for sure. The show has never actually come out and said that the Haitian is the one blocking powers, only strongly implied it ("you'll find your voice doesn't work with my friend here", which is what Bennet told Eden when he first brought her into his group). Bennet has a lot of reasons to hide that he has a special ability himself, including ending up a test subject himself (the last episode mentioned that Bennet is not the top of the food chain in his group) and the fact that there's a superhero serial killer about.
Randomly, someday go back and watch Homecoming. I noticed Bennet never, ever runs, even when he should. At first I was thinking Jack Coleman has a problem with his back or legs that the directors have been trying to downplay, but with how long it took him to find Jackie's body, it makes me wonder if it's something about his character and not the actor.
And don't make me CP and long-ass theory about Peter and Sylar.
ETA: Discussing SikBoy's theory with a friend who is just as into Heroes as I am, we thought about Homecoming, when just Eden and the Haitian were around to take Sylar down. But as far as we know, Sylar's powers still worked until Eden started telling him to go to sleep. All we saw the Haitian do was take him to the ground once he was already falling asleep. In Six Months Ago, when the Haitian took Eden, we never saw how he did it.
The only thing that doesn't seem to fit into this is neither Matt nor Ted mentioned Bennet being around when they were kidnapped, but could have been that Bennet's pretty non-descript while the Haitian sort of stands out (Ted mentioned in his situation that he was a bar in a college town and there were some professors in the bar. I actually originally thought he said "a professor" and thought he was talking about Bennet, who certainly looks like one). Matt wasn't just unable to read the Haitian's mind: he was unable to read all minds in the room once he noticed the Haitian.
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Interesting theory, and one I'm almost willing to get behind, but there's a couple holes. The first one is Matt, who managed to read Bennett's mind while he was strapped to the table. But since we've seen Matt almostkindasorta beat out the suppression once since then, it's possible that he's being set up as being especially special/determined. But the one I can't alterna-theory away quite so easily is the fact that Nathan took off right in front of him. I suppose it's possible that he could have built up enough speed to get out of range before Bennet brought the hammer down (or that he was deliberately allowed to escape), but it seems like a bit of a stretch.
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Tabby, the thing about Nathan taking flight is that both Bennet and the Haitian were there, and the Haitian is the one we have been lead to believe has the power-supressing abilities. It could be that they weren't using them at the time, since no one bothered to stop him.
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Re: Nathan's flight. IIRC, we floated a theory back then that Bennet was testing Nathan, pushing him to see how far he would go. This was based on a line of dialogue that I've forgotten at the moment.
What we'd have here is Bennet as power-jammer and the Haitian as mind-jammer. That would explain why the Haitian alone (assuming he was alone) was able to take down Matt Parkman.
The SiKboy theory has the advantage of explaining how Sylar was able to attack Eden, which otherwise comes out of nowhere. It would still make Bennet look dumb for leaving Sylar unguarded.
Amigone201: ...if someone told you they had a nurse in custody, wouldn't you assume it was a woman?
File that under "Sloppy Writing," like Radioactive Man deciding that The Haitian was Haitian without hearing him speak. There's at least one of those in every episode. Then again... Parkman is a mind-reader.
A Guy Named Goo: ...Mohinder's voice-overs are him reading from his father's book. Anyone else connect this?
Subconsciously, maybe. But I'm glad you pointed it out. If that's the case, though, then Papa Suresh's colleagues were right: he's a crackpot. His "theory" doesn't seem to be based on any data, yet he's entirely correct, right down to the addresses of subjects he's never examined.
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Grumpy, I connected the thing with Mohinder reading from his father's book in Six Months Ago, when Chandra and Sylar are quoting parts of his book later in the episode and it's word for word what Mohinder said at the beginning of the episode. I am not sure if the fact that Mohinder didn't come up with this stuff on his own makes him any more or any less boring, though.
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TWOP dropped the ball again...minor nitpick, again, because I love the site.
When describing Jessica shooting at DL, they totally missed the fact that he phases bullet through him, so the recapper thinks that she hit him once in the shoulder, then just completely missed him the second time.
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mouse goddess, my closest friend and I write an alternative recap site because we were so fed up with how TWoP was handling our favorite shows. Heroes isn't up yet, but I can give you the URL.
While watching the last ep with a friend, did anyone else notice Peter was wearing Sylar's watch and coat? This actually ties into my long, convoluted theory that boils down to Sylar originally had Peter's power (and the watch stuff was a talent that he developed on his own), and that Sylar and Peter are going to be connected. I also think Sylar was the one giving Peter his dreams in the cell (since we know that Peter dreamwalks without any control) and was possibly affecting his health, probably because Peter was the one that stopped him from getting Claire. The most telling thing is in Peter's dream at the beginning of the episode, Sylar tells Peter "you don't even understand your own powers", and in the very next dream he's going all explodey.
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quote:Originally posted by Grumpy: Amigone201: ...if someone told you they had a nurse in custody, wouldn't you assume it was a woman?
File that under "Sloppy Writing," like Radioactive Man deciding that The Haitian was Haitian without hearing him speak. There's at least one of those in every episode. Then again... Parkman is a mind-reader.
Mm, no I'm gonna concede. Jenn closed that up real nice for me.
quote:A Guy Named Goo: ...Mohinder's voice-overs are him reading from his father's book. Anyone else connect this?
Subconsciously, maybe. But I'm glad you pointed it out. If that's the case, though, then Papa Suresh's colleagues were right: he's a crackpot. His "theory" doesn't seem to be based on any data, yet he's entirely correct, right down to the addresses of subjects he's never examined.
Well, we don't know what else it says in the book. Just the conclusions, because they're poetic and make for good voiceovers.
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Since mouse goddess mentioned the shortcomings of the TWoP recap, I'd like to quote another observation that sheds some light on the show, without the recapper realizing it:
quote:...if Sylar really had attempted to take Claire's brain, wouldn't she just have healed as quickly as he would have tried to cut into her? He'd be all, cut cut cut and she'd be all, I'll see your cut and raise you a heal and it would just go back and forth until finally, exhausted, Sylar just dropped her and ran off...
True. I'd wager this is why we had to see Claire with a stick in her brain earlier. In order for Claire to be in jeopardy during the "Homecoming" episode, the viewer had to be convinced that she could be killed if her brain is damaged (at least, as long as the foreign body is still there). Thus, that whole plot digression.
One other thing TWoP catches is the newly popular "Bennet the Power-Blocker" theory.
Say, isn't it strange how Peter is the only one who's interacting with the other heroes? He's had scenes with Nathan, Isaac, Hiro, Mohinder and Eden (while she was undercover), and now Claire, Parkman, and even Sylar. Significantly, he has not interacted with anyone from the Niki plotline -- yet Niki, DL, and Micah were in Peter's dream.
If nothing else, that was a message to viewers bored with Niki that yes, she will someday have relevance to the plot.
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Did anyone notice that Peter was dressed as Sylar in the last scene of the last episode? My theory is that Sylar, pissed at Peter for stopping him from getting the cheerleader, is trying to torture him physically and mentally (the dream where Sylar appeared to him at the beginning of the ep and told him he doesn't understand power is a big clue). I have long suspected that Peter and Sylar are somehow connected, mostly because I believe Sylar's original power was Peter's until Sylar figured out how to keep the powers he absorbs.
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