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The icon represents me singing the praises of Superman Returns!

Just got back from seeing Superman Returns. How did I like it? I'm already so pumped to see it again that I can't sleep, that's how much I liked it. I will readily admit, Singer borrowed *heavily* from the Donner films. I will also admit there were parts that the movie needed added, as well as some parts that the movie didn't need. None of those things mattered in the end though, because the movie, the characters, the actors, the plot, the dialogue, the special fx, and EVERYTHING was through the roof! 5 out of 5 stars from me. I even got to see it with an audience that participated! They laughed, gasped, and applauded in all the right places. I gotta say, there's nothing like seeing a movie like that. The movie received applause at the end, something I haven't experienced in quite a while.

Oh, and that Spiderman 3 Teaser is even better on the big screen! The audience applauded at that too!

Rotten Tomatoes - Certified Fresh

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Wow, your review makes me wish that I didn't hate Superman so much. I don't know why, but I can't stand him.

I'm sure its just because I'm a super villain.

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Hey, we all have our likes and dislikes! I, personally, have dislikes of many characters that others feel are as iconic as I feel Superman is.

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Well, a lot of people don't like Superman because some writers back in the day turned him into sort of a walking (flying?) deus ex machina, able to use his already ridiculous powers to an ever-increasing array of ridiculous ends. Also, in the hands of some writers, he was pretty one-dimensional, with effectively no character flaws. I could imagine either of these things as leading to a dislike of the character.

Of course, it could also be that he's a NFBSK: superdickery.com.

Although it's of course possible that you hate the character for another reason, such as your being a supervillain. [Wink]

With all that said, despite my own aspirations to super-villainy, I'm looking forward to seeing the movie myself.

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That's one great thing to be said for this movie - Superman/Clark Kent *is not* one dimensional in it at all. He's not angst-ridden or anything like some of the Marvel Universe, but he's not completely without emotions, either.

PS - I've enjoyed superdickery for a long time now, great stuff. [Big Grin]

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I Just watched the trailer, and I have mixed feelings... I've never been too fond of that flying boy scout in a red cape, but I admit the movie seems to rock.

However, the actor should be twice the size and rather looks like a dressman in a fashion catalogue.

I guess I'll go and see it with my kids, and they'll love it - but I doubt it will be as good or as clever as Spiderman or the X-men series.

Ah - BTW : I spent undue office time visiting superdickery.com... one of the funniest sites ever. Highly recommended if you're in desperate need of a good laugh.

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Routh is smaller than Reeve, for sure, but he's not that much smaller than him that I think he really needed to be bigger. He had been away from the Earth's yellow sun for 5 years, after all, I can buy that he lost some pounds.

While he definitely looks "pretty," he also gives a raw masculine vibe that I wasn't expecting.

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OK, OK, by "size", I meant *body mass*. C.Reeves just looked much more like the comic-book Superman. I don't doubt Mr. Routh's performance as an actor, but he looks as if someone would choose Brad Pitt to play Conan the Barbarian. Athletic, yes, but not enough.

But if the sun (or lack thereof) is responsible for that skinny Supey, I don't mind. [Wink]

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Meh, I've always been a fan of the smaller, more realistic Superman portrayals. For example, Dean Cain in Lois and Clark. After all, in the real world, who's gonna believe bumbly Clark kent has such broad shoulders and huge muscles? [Razz]

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I haven't seen the movie yet and I'm not sure when I will (Supes has never been one of my favorites either). I do have to thank you guys for introducing me to Superdickery though. This is awesome. [Big Grin]

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Christopher Reeve was pretty, too.

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I think we need a Superdickery movie. Actually, it would probably get stale pretty quickly... I don't know if Superman beating everyone up and laughing at them would stay funny for 90 minutes plus.

But a man can dream... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by A Man of Wealth and Taste:
I think we need a Superdickery movie. Actually, it would probably get stale pretty quickly... I don't know if Superman beating everyone up and laughing at them would stay funny for 90 minutes plus.

Didn't they try that, to an extent in Superman III? I mean, he didn't force Jimmy Olsen to marry a gorilla or anything, but he was still pretty dickish.

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A Superdickery movie would only be funny if Jimmy Olsen got a new, ridiculous power every fifteen seconds.

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... or if Superman would end his everlasting hesitation between Loïs Lane and Lana Lang by becoming a Muslim and marrying both...

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Originally posted by Midgard_Dragon:
Meh, I've always been a fan of the smaller, more realistic Superman portrayals. For example, Dean Cain in Lois and Clark. After all, in the real world, who's gonna believe bumbly Clark kent has such broad shoulders and huge muscles? [Razz]

Used to very funny effect in an SNL sketch when the Rock hosted. Lois and Jimmy and the crew would all laugh at Superman behind his back..."who does he think he's fooling?"

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I may see it just because of Kevin Spacey..heh. I'm more of a batman person

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Looks like a triple post spectacular! [Razz] Anyways, Kevin Spacey is *the* reason to see this movie if you're not a Superman fan. He's delightfully evil while not hamming it up like Gene Hackman did. But he still has that "fun" side that Hackman did.

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Saw it at a 10 PM showing last night. Enjoyed it a great deal, and having a lot of trouble getting the music out of my head. [Smile]

There were flaws (the entire premise of the movie was a mistake, IMHO) but it's worth seeing. And the flying scenes and most of the other effects are fantastic. In the Christopher Reeve movies, the effects weren't quite there yet...but this time, you really will believe a man can fly.

Oh, and pat yourself on the back if you laughed at the Addis Abbaba reference. [Smile]

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Of course! The whole theatre laughed at the Addis Abbaba reference! [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Echinodermata Q. Taft:
Saw it at a 10 PM showing last night. Enjoyed it a great deal, and having a lot of trouble getting the music out of my head. [Smile]

The trailer music or the reworked John Williams score? After I heard the music in the first trailer, I was humming that one.

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I'm guessing the reworked John Williams score, they used it *a lot* in the movie.

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quote:
Originally posted by Midgard_Dragon:
I'm guessing the reworked John Williams score, they used it *a lot* in the movie.

That's fantastic. I just visited the official site and went through a couple of trailers. #1 has snippets of the song, but I really want to hear it all.

I also couldn't help noticing that in the framing picture, Brandon Routh really DOES look like Superman, despite his young age.

USA Today recently did a Life segment on the Man of Steel through the ages. The story said that America's changing values were reflected (whether consciously or not) in the actors we chose to portray Superman. In the 50's we had an older guy, George Reeves, who looked fatherly, because we were a somewhat paternalistic culture. In the 70's and 80's, Christopher Reeve was a bodybuilder, portraying our love of the physical. More recently was Dean Cain, still a big guy--a former football player, actually (who played for Buffalo!)--but younger, reflecting the culture's growing obsession with youth. Today, apparently, we like pretty boys. Hence, the handsome and gymnast-like Brandon Routh.

The Superman of the recently-ended (and dearly departed! [Frown] ) Justice League Unlimited, was drawn to be almost ridiculously muscular, and not exceptionally young-looking. Not sure what was up with that, although I do recall several slightly different looks and builds for that character. Most of the time, though, he appeared to be almost an upside-down pyramid shape (which, I'm quite sure, each drawing was based on).

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Brandon Routh not only looks like Superman, he *is* Superman. He owns the role much like Reeve did in 78.

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quote:
Originally posted by A Man of Wealth and Taste:
Of course, it could also be that he's a NFBSK: superdickery.com.

In my state of delirious insomnia, these are reminding me of those "Lost Gospel" stories where Jesus was an utter brat when he was a kid.

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Saw it today, too--pretty good. I just got distracted by thinking, "that kid needs a haircut, bad!!!!" What's with the shaggy dog little boys nowadays? I'd buy it if he was a young Jewish boy, but it just looked messy!
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I love the shaggy dog look. It looks like he's actually a kid and not some well-groomed miniature adult that most parents try to make their children.

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quote:
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[The trailer music or the reworked John Williams score? After I heard the music in the first trailer, I was humming that one.

Oh, definitely the reworked John Williams score. (And having come back to glance at the thread, there it goes again...)

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Originally posted by A Man of Wealth and Taste:
Of course, it could also be that he's a NFBSK: superdickery.com.

I hope you are happy with posting the link. You wasted two days worth of my working time when you posted it. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Lainie:
Christopher Reeve was pretty, too.

Wasn't he? *swoons*
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I saw it yesterday, having never seen any of the Christopher Reeve ones (I was a bit too young, and didn't really like superheroes much when I was a kid). Very well done, even to those of us who don't get any of the references!

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Saw it today with the whole family on IMAX with 20 minutes of 3-D! It RULED!!! The 8YO loved it. The 5YO did too but...SPOILER WARNING FOR A LATER SCENE...there's a scene about 3/4ths of the way through where Superman gets really beaten up. Like knocked to the ground & kicked repeatedly & punched a lot & stabbed with Krypton shards. DD really had a hard time with that & was crying a bit in the theatre. I did explain to her that it wasn't real & that Superman was not really getting hurt & she seemed OK. She said later she'd like to see it again. However, it was unexpected so I thought parents might want to know.

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I just saw it tonight. I absolutely LOVED it, although I thought Routh and Beckinsdale both look too young for him to have been gone five years.

Will someone please explain the Addis Ababa reference to me? It went over my head.

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quote:
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I just saw it tonight. I absolutely LOVED it, although I thought Routh and Beckinsdale both look too young for him to have been gone five years.

Will someone please explain the Addis Ababa reference to me? It went over my head.

After Lex steals the Kryptonite from the museum, the camera pans down from the broekn glass to a marker that says "Addis Ababa, L9 Pallasite Meteorite" or something to that affect. Addis Ababa is where a meteorite was said to have landed in Superman: The Movie, this is where Lex originally obtained his chunk of Kryptonite in the first film, by having it shipped from there.

I think I got all that right.

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Saw it today with the whole family on IMAX with 20 minutes of 3-D! It RULED!!! The 8YO loved it. The 5YO did too but...SPOILER WARNING FOR A LATER SCENE...there's a scene about 3/4ths of the way through where Superman gets really beaten up. Like knocked to the ground & kicked repeatedly & punched a lot & stabbed with Krypton shards. DD really had a hard time with that & was crying a bit in the theatre. I did explain to her that it wasn't real & that Superman was not really getting hurt & she seemed OK. She said later she'd like to see it again. However, it was unexpected so I thought parents might want to know.

The parents might also want to note that the movie is rated PG-13 (not being snarky, hope it doesn't sound that way.) So, you should already have a bit of warning that something non-kid-friendly's gonna happen. However, that scene with the beat down was just over the top brutal, even I was shocked by it, and had my hand over my mouth in shock the whole time. It was, honestly, the most painful thing I've ever watched, but it was done so well!

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