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Raven Waift
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quote:
Originally posted by smittykins flinging rotten tomatoes:


2. This is a short story rather than a book: Set in the future with an ultramodern, automated house: it cooks, cleans, gives the agenda for the day, etc. Unfortunately, there's no one living in it, because everyone was killed in a nuclear holocaust. I want to say it's by Ray Bradbury, but I'm not sure.

ETA a 2.

I know this story. It was in an science fiction anthology that I read in high school. I have been searching for for the past hour, but I cannot remember the name of the anthology for the life of me.

In the story, there was a nursery with little animals on the walls made of light that moved, and the house set the cigar out at a certain time, and in the end the house burnt down... right?

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quote:
Originally posted by smittykins flinging rotten tomatoes:
2. This is a short story rather than a book: Set in the future with an ultramodern, automated house: it cooks, cleans, gives the agenda for the day, etc. Unfortunately, there's no one living in it, because everyone was killed in a nuclear holocaust. I want to say it's by Ray Bradbury, but I'm not sure.

This does sound very familiar and Bradbury-like, but I went through my collections and can't find it. Admittedly I don't own everything he's ever written.

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I read one in probably 6th grade that's been bugging me for awhile. It was set in New Zealand or Australia IIRC (but could be wrong) & there was a nothing-like presense that was roaming the country-side 'gobbling' up stuff. This boy ended up fighting the nothing & walled it up in a cave. I remember feeling a bit sorry for the nothing at the end because it was sad that it couldn't see sunlight anymore.

It was not 'The Neverending Story'.

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It wasn't Ragwitch or Shade's Children, both by Garth Nix, either. But if you liked that book, you might like either or both of those.

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quote:
Originally posted by Neffti see you, to see you, Neff:
I was looking forward to spreading my Moomin love! [lol]

When I was in the third and fourth grades, the Moomin craze at my school was very similar to the current Harry Potter craze. Everybody read them, talked like them but we didn't dress like them. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
quote:
Originally posted by smittykins flinging rotten tomatoes:
2. This is a short story rather than a book: Set in the future with an ultramodern, automated house: it cooks, cleans, gives the agenda for the day, etc. Unfortunately, there's no one living in it, because everyone was killed in a nuclear holocaust. I want to say it's by Ray Bradbury, but I'm not sure.

This does sound very familiar and Bradbury-like, but I went through my collections and can't find it. Admittedly I don't own everything he's ever written.
I believe this is There Will Come Soft Rains and yes, it is by Ray Bradbury.

Seaboe

ETA title confirmed through a Ray Bradbury bulletin board. You can find the story in either The Martian Chronicles or The Stories of Ray Bradbury.

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Seaboe Muffinchucker
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Grrr. Please delete.

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quote:
Originally posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker:
I believe this is There Will Come Soft Rains and yes, it is by Ray Bradbury.

Seaboe

ETA title confirmed through a Ray Bradbury bulletin board. You can find the story in either The Martian Chronicles or The Stories of Ray Bradbury.

Thanks for posting this. After reading your post, I went back to check my bookcase, since I do have a copy of The Martian Chronicles. It was missing! A quick search turned it up behind the bookcase, where it had apparently fallen, who knows how long ago.

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I was thinking that the Ray Bradbury one mentioned might have been The Veldt, but then I realized it wasn't.

Anyone else read The Veldt? I really liked that one, and also A Sound of Thunder or whatever that one was called.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ms. K:
Okay, I'll play along.

It's not actually a children's book, like Blueberries for Sal, or Bread and Jam for Frances, but more a preteen or young adult book.

I remember the main character is a girl named Sylvie, living with a foster family, and the foster father is either raping her or molesting her and she runs away, trying to go to Hollywood.

I want to say it's set in the mid to late 1950s, too.

It's been years, and I really liked that book, as depressing as it is.

The book you mean is called To All My Fans, With Love, from Sylvie and it's by Ellen Conford.

I remember reading this book thinking it was going to be her usual lighthearted book - what a surprise! I do remember really liking it though.

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Ms. Kringle
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Thank you Christie!

I remember that I really liked that book, because it was realistic.

Not the usual lighthearted teen novel, but it was a good read, and a well-written story.

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Now I feel all bad because I started this thread, and don't know any of the other books to help others out. Blah! Actually I'm pretty sure I've read the one about the seal, way back when, but I don't remember what it was called either. (Or if the one attempt at the title was correct.)

And as far as the owing a first born to Amazon.com goes... I think I already owe them so many of my "*-born"s that I might as well just not ever have any kids. I'd never get to keep any of them, anyhow. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by smallpotatoes:
Xia,

Could it have been A Seal Called Andre?

Jaci

Nope, unfortunately that's not it... I'm pretty sure the book I'm looking for had a boy and a girl, (definitely a girl) and I think there may have been a couple of seals, not just one. I think there was some kind of magic in it as well.

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Oh I have a couple.

1) All I really remember was this boy lived in a house that was heated by a little volcano in the basement.

2) I can't remember how it started but I know this boy comes down stairs and the patterns on this crazy quilt are dancing around and he follows them out the door. I remember the images being very vivid.

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Blucanary, for #1 try The Finches' Fabulous Furnace by Roger Wolcott Drury.

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Maybe someone can help me with one that spooked me as a kid--I only heard an excerpt from it, on one of those PBS reading shows. It involved a boy who encountered two strange men that he thought were hoboes, but they turned out to be interstellar fugitives of some kind. They warned him of enforcers coming that would look human except with unearthly green eyes.

he didn't believe it until he started seeing the people with green eyes. That's all I really remember, except the line "Red for danger, green for danger" that was running through his head when he first saw them.

Any clues?

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I JUST had one this morning. It was a book about a modern Jewish girl who, through a vague time travel element that appears when she opens the door for Joseph during Passover, becomes a girl named Chaya during the holocaust. I don't want to give away the ending for it, but I do remember it if it's necessary. It was a really good book.

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Librarians balk at giveing someone's check out history to the government but will they give you your own? Do they even maintain this. I'm wondering if the library where I grew up still has a record of what I checked out - at least from when they got the computerized system.

It would make threads like this so much easier.

OTOH there have been two books I was going to ask about and somehow mangaged to pry the titles out of the deep dark recesses of my brain.
Anyone else read The Changeover or Futuretrack 5?

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Seaboe Muffinchucker
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quote:
Originally posted by Aud:
Librarians balk at giveing someone's check out history to the government but will they give you your own? Do they even maintain this. I'm wondering if the library where I grew up still has a record of what I checked out - at least from when they got the computerized system.

My bet is that they have absolutely no record of what you checked out before they went to the computerized system. They probably destroyed the cards (if they even still own the books). Plus, since the cards live in the books, they wouldn't've even had a separate record of who checked out what.

Modern libraries often destroy the checkout record as soon as the book is returned so that they cannot determine who has checked out a particular book. They can only determine, if the book is checked out, who officially has it. You can see the potential for confusion, I'm sure (what if the book was reshelved without being checked in properly? What if someone borrowed a library book from the person who checked it out?).

Now, if they had such a record, would they give it to you? Depends on the library director, I suspect.

Seaboe

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quote:
Originally posted by Stormfeather:

The other book was a sort of horror/mystery thing that involved a group of kids who got stranded in an old "abandoned" house. They were trapped there due to flooding, and couldn't get out for a while. During the course of the book, various kids disappeared, and were possibly killed (I can't even remember if any were actually *dead* at the end of the story, but I remember at least their friends thought they were). The house itself was the property of a stage magician of some sort, and had some of his various tools of illusion, including a guillotine. I remember the book creeping me right the heck out when I first read it, but now it's bugging me.

I am almost certain you are talking about A Deadly Game of Magic Joan Lowery Nixon wrote tons of these "teen mystery" books and I burned through them when I was around thirteen or fourteen. This was one of my favorites.

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Seaboe Muffinchucker
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quote:
Originally posted by Super Sloppy Rebochan:
I JUST had one this morning. It was a book about a modern Jewish girl who, through a vague time travel element that appears when she opens the door for Joseph during Passover, becomes a girl named Chaya during the holocaust. I don't want to give away the ending for it, but I do remember it if it's necessary. It was a really good book.

The Devil's Arithmetic by Jane Yolen.

Seaboe

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Oh, WOW that was a good book.

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Seaboe Muffinchucker
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quote:
Originally posted by gnome:
Maybe someone can help me with one that spooked me as a kid--I only heard an excerpt from it, on one of those PBS reading shows. It involved a boy who encountered two strange men that he thought were hoboes, but they turned out to be interstellar fugitives of some kind. They warned him of enforcers coming that would look human except with unearthly green eyes.

he didn't believe it until he started seeing the people with green eyes. That's all I really remember, except the line "Red for danger, green for danger" that was running through his head when he first saw them.

Any clues?

Dick Estell is the Radio Reader and you can find a list of all the books he has read on the air by following this link. Try there.

Seaboe

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Seaboe Muffinchucker
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quote:
Originally posted by PallasAthena:
Oh, WOW that was a good book.

There are many good books in this thread. Are you referring to any one in particular?

[Smile]

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I read voraciously as a child, and none of these books sound familiar, which seems rather odd to me.

I'm also bummed that mine doesn't ring a bell for anyone - oh well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker:
quote:
Originally posted by Super Sloppy Rebochan:
I JUST had one this morning. It was a book about a modern Jewish girl who, through a vague time travel element that appears when she opens the door for Joseph during Passover, becomes a girl named Chaya during the holocaust. I don't want to give away the ending for it, but I do remember it if it's necessary. It was a really good book.

The Devil's Arithmetic by Jane Yolen.

Seaboe

AH! FINALLY! Thanks. I didn't even know what would be a good Google search, but that book, along with Number the Stars and Letters from Rifka, were very popular reading in late elementary school. And my three-quarters non-Jewish heritage are showing through because it was the prophet Elijah, not Joseph. Apologies.

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Seaboe Muffinchucker
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Bthyb, I'd be delighted to help you find it but I don't have enough information--for example, do you have any idea when you read it? Were both stories in the same book?

Seaboe

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quote:
Originally posted by Super Sloppy Rebochan:
Thanks. I didn't even know what would be a good Google search, ..

That's because something like this doesn't work as a Google search. You'd do better to search Amazon (using the advance search feature and keywords) or, even better IMO, Abebooks.com.

There are problems with Abebooks, however. One is that it is for booksellers and not all of them include a synopsis of the book in their description. Also, many titles have many, many copies (each one of which gets its own entry). On the other hand, it doesn't have to be a book in print.

My search for "Chaya" in the keyword field turned up 666 hits and I paged through about 380 of them before finding your book. So if you have the patience, it can be done.

Seaboe

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quote:
Originally posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker:
Bthyb, I'd be delighted to help you find it but I don't have enough information--for example, do you have any idea when you read it? Were both stories in the same book?

Seaboe

I read it in the late 80s or early 90s, and both stories were in the same book...thanks for asking.

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quote:
Originally posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker:
quote:
Originally posted by PallasAthena:
Oh, WOW that was a good book.

There are many good books in this thread. Are you referring to any one in particular?

[Smile]

Seaboe

Hah! Yeah. I was specicically referring to Devil's Arithmetic, but as I am going back after my gut reaction post, I can see that that statement applies to quite a few of the books. So, yes and no I guess. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker:
quote:
Originally posted by Super Sloppy Rebochan:
Thanks. I didn't even know what would be a good Google search, ..

That's because something like this doesn't work as a Google search. You'd do better to search Amazon (using the advance search feature and keywords) or, even better IMO, Abebooks.com.

There are problems with Abebooks, however. One is that it is for booksellers and not all of them include a synopsis of the book in their description. Also, many titles have many, many copies (each one of which gets its own entry). On the other hand, it doesn't have to be a book in print.

My search for "Chaya" in the keyword field turned up 666 hits and I paged through about 380 of them before finding your book. So if you have the patience, it can be done.

Seaboe

Yow. I actually hit Amazon this morning, and even tried looking at Letters from Rifka and Number the Stars because they're all about roughly the same subject matter and age group to see if there would be a suggestion or a fan list. Thanks for the tips, though - hopefully, I'll have better luck next time.

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This thread inspired me.

I was going to ask about a book I couldn't remember, but thought it would be tacky to do so without looking for it first.

I searched on Abebooks and discovered it was The Mysterious Girl in the Garden by Judith St. George. Problem solved. Now I just need to find a copy.

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quote:
Originally posted by Name That Tabby:
Blucanary, for #1 try The Finches' Fabulous Furnace by Roger Wolcott Drury.

-Tabby
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That's it. I didn't find it when I searched Amazon before but know I know the title I found it. I may have to order one of the used copies.

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Yes! THANK YOU SmallTownKid! I think that is it, at least, the title rang bells when I saw it, and the brief synopsis on Amazon.com sounds a lot like it as well, from what I remember.

*Adds it to shopping cart* Luckily this one is reprinted, so I don't have to muck about with the used copies and hope I get a good dealer. [Wink]

Now someone just ask about one that I know, so I can feel like I'm returning the favor!

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Originally posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker:
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Originally posted by Super Sloppy Rebochan:
I JUST had one this morning. It was a book about a modern Jewish girl who, through a vague time travel element that appears when she opens the door for Joseph during Passover, becomes a girl named Chaya during the holocaust. I don't want to give away the ending for it, but I do remember it if it's necessary. It was a really good book.

The Devil's Arithmetic by Jane Yolen.

Seaboe

No kidding...I love Jane Yolen, but I've never heard of that book. I wonder how I avoided ever hearing of her when I was a kid, anyhow.

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