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Watched the whole thing last year, via BitTorrent, when there was no certainty that we'd get it at all.
I've been enjoying watching it again, even if it's getting some time cuts so Sci-Fi can run 20 minutes of ads about how you should watch Sci-Fi. I also get horrible reception on that channel.
I recently warned some people on another board not to judge the entirety of the series by the fourth and fifth episodes ("Aliens of London" and "World War Three"). They're really not representative of the series as a whole, and the episode that ran right after is just damn fine entertainment. The first season has some uneveness, but there's too much damn fine drama going on for me to let the stupid farting aliens wreck it for me. Here's to next season having less flatulence and more...well, more awesome.
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quote:Originally posted by Rebochan: I've been enjoying watching it again, even if it's getting some time cuts so Sci-Fi can run 20 minutes of ads about how you should watch Sci-Fi.
They've been cut? Even though you could run them in an hour slot and get 15 minutes worth of adverts in there? Gah!
Out of interest, as you've seen both, can you say what scenes have been cut so far?
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Oh, yes. My pick for the best couple of episodes. In a few weeks time everyone in this thread will be quoting that. That's also the only episode that's been censored in the UK, so far. I'll tell those who want to know after the episode has aired.
Having read through a couple of sites with people talking about the programme, it seems that many people are unaware that it's not aimed specifically at adults - it's a family show, specifically aimed at all ages from 1 to 100. So, if anything seems childish, and it's maybe not as adult as some might think it could be, that'd be the reason why.
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quote:Originally posted by Rebochan: I've been enjoying watching it again, even if it's getting some time cuts so Sci-Fi can run 20 minutes of ads about how you should watch Sci-Fi.
They've been cut? Even though you could run them in an hour slot and get 15 minutes worth of adverts in there? Gah!
I couldn't tell you what's been cut (if anything), but it doesn't surprise me. SciFi channel is greedy for commercial time. The first half of the last season of stargate (both series) they cut the opening down to about 10 seconds just so they could air more ads.
quote:I couldn't tell you what's been cut (if anything), but it doesn't surprise me. SciFi channel is greedy for commercial time. The first half of the last season of stargate (both series) they cut the opening down to about 10 seconds just so they could air more ads.
That's disheartening to find out. Oh well, I'm still happy to finally have some Doctor Who and looking forward to watching tonight!
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quote:Originally posted by Rebochan: The first season has some uneveness, but there's too much damn fine drama going on for me to let the stupid farting aliens wreck it for me. Here's to next season having less flatulence and more...well, more awesome.
The next series begins on the BBC in a week or so. There's an article in The Fortean Times about the cybermen. They make a reappearance in this series. I hope America doesn't have to wait a year to see it. The photograph of the new cybermen makes them look brilliant.
So now I know why so many BBC programmes (documentaries and drama especially) are 40 minutes long. When they are exported to America it fits into an hour's slot. Somehow I can never imagine Dr. Who interspersed with adverts. Don't they interupt the flow of the drama and disrupt the tension?
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Yes, the commercials are a pain. I often tape the shows and fast forward through the commercials if I can, but it is still irritating! Before the wonders of recording machines I used to watch television with book in hand so I had something to do during commercials.
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quote:Originally posted by Andrew of Ware, England: So now I know why so many BBC programmes (documentaries and drama especially) are 40 minutes long. When they are exported to America it fits into an hour's slot. Somehow I can never imagine Dr. Who interspersed with adverts. Don't they interupt the flow of the drama and disrupt the tension?
I noticed when I first watched the new Doctor Who that is wasn't cut properly for the commercial breaks. American programs are usually edited with the commercials breaks in mind, but in Doctor Who it just seemed like random cuts.
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It would be an impossible job for the BBC to provide lots of different cuts for ads to be insterted. Some commercial stations may want three slots in an hour, some four, etc... The editors could not possibly cater for all scenarios. Thus, I suppose, the BBC just shoot the 40 minute episode and let whichever station they sell it to insert their commercial breaks when they want to.
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quote:Originally posted by trollface: They've been cut? Even though you could run them in an hour slot and get 15 minutes worth of adverts in there? Gah!
Out of interest, as you've seen both, can you say what scenes have been cut so far?
From what I've read elsewhere, the cuts so far have been:
Rose: about ten seconds from the beginning of the Wheelie bin scene.
The End of the World: the bit where Cassandra says something like "Gather round, and commemorate the death of the planet with a traditional Earth ballad" – the scene just starts with the jukebox starting to play "Toxic". So they lost a joke there.
There's another cut to the rotating fans scene, with reaction shots from Rose, Moxx of Balhoun and others.
The Unquiet Dead: the whole scene where Rose returns from the wardrobe in the Victorian dress, the Doctor says she looks beautiful "… considering", Rose asks him if he isn't going to change, he says he changed his jumper, and then Rose insists on stepping out of the Tardis first.
Aliens of London: immediately after the spaceship crashes into the Thames, they cut Rose saying "Oh, that's just not fair" and the Doctor and Rose running off, and a few shots of traffic and soldiers on the streets after that.
There seem to have been no cuts from World War III, but I think that was the shortest episode anyway.
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quote:Originally posted by VeebleFetzer: The Unquiet Dead: the whole scene where Rose returns from the wardrobe in the Victorian dress, the Doctor says she looks beautiful "… considering", Rose asks him if he isn't going to change, he says he changed his jumper, and then Rose insists on stepping out of the Tardis first.
Hmm, that can't be right, because the Television Without Pity guy commented on that scene.
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I've seen just about every Doctor Who episode aired -- missed a good hunk of #6's episodes and a few of the ones destroyed by the BBC of #s1 and 2 and 3...
And this is true to the spirit and I LOVE it!!!
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quote:Originally posted by VeebleFetzer: The Unquiet Dead: the whole scene where Rose returns from the wardrobe in the Victorian dress, the Doctor says she looks beautiful "… considering", Rose asks him if he isn't going to change, he says he changed his jumper, and then Rose insists on stepping out of the Tardis first.
Hmm, that can't be right, because the Television Without Pity guy commented on that scene.
That's right. He commented that it had been cut
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quote: Will I annoy anyone if I mention that the next series starts on BBC1 this Saturday?
Not if you report on how good it is without too much spoiling!
The Sci-fi channel has been advertising that the dvd of the current series is coming out soon. I wonder if it will be without the cuts. I've often seen reviewers on North America's Amazon.com complain that many BBC videos have been shortened from the original version.
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Well, the American DVDs are just the Canadian ones sold in American dollars and stores, so...
Any Whovians up north with the set able to comment on cuts?
I'm rather doubtful the time cuts are going to be on the DVDs, silly though they are. But I am concerned that they could use time as an excuse to cut out one of the best scenes of the last episode.
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Count me as another "yank" who loves it (although being from the South I better not call myself a "yank").
Only saw a few episodes of the original series back in the 80's and they really didn't do anything for me. Can't even remember the plot of any of the episodes I did catch although it was the actor who had the dark curly hair and long scarf playing The Dr. Of course, I was a little on the young side back then and into other things. Although strangely at the time, I was really into Douglas Adams and even got to see him speak at a local college.
But I think they've done a really good job roping in the sci-fi fans who may not necessarily be Dr. Who fans. My husband, the ultimate sci-fi geek also never really got into Who previously, now wakes me up Friday mornings with "It's Dr. Who day!"
We really like Christopher Eccleston in the lead role and it'll be hard getting used to a different doctor. But we're willing to make a go of it.
Kind of off topic: But am I the only person who notices that Christopher Eccleston has a weirdly shaped head? It's fine around the jaw area but right around the temples his skull kind of slopes in dramatically. But you can only see it if he turns his head a certain way. It doesn't really bother me at all. In fact, I think he's quite handsome. Just, I don't know,...unique.
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Well, to add to the OP part, I have been watching (though I missed the Unquiet dead somehow, damn DVR) and so far like it, never got into the original Doctor Who much but this one seems to mix an interesting and at times even tense and suspensful story with humor and lightheartedness.
As for the farting aliens.. (here there be spoilers).. At first I did think "ok, its kinda funny but its not making them seem very dangerous", but then after they turn into huge monsters and start killing people that did it for me.
Overall I like it, I'll keep watching it, and since you guys in the UK and Canada seem to still be watching that must mean I have anohter good year left at least Unless SciFi cancels it to put more movies about genetically modified animals on..
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quote:Originally posted by Moth Drone: Kind of off topic: But am I the only person who notices that Christopher Eccleston has a weirdly shaped head? It's fine around the jaw area but right around the temples his skull kind of slopes in dramatically. But you can only see it if he turns his head a certain way. It doesn't really bother me at all. In fact, I think he's quite handsome. Just, I don't know,...unique.
I've noticed that, too. But if you look at Rose, she has a very strong, defined jaw line with less definition in the forehead.
Maybe they were cast to be symmetrical?
Yeah, I'm a dork and that wasn't really funny. ah well.
Anyhoo, saw "Dalek" last night. Bummer that was the last one, because I LOVE how they've updated the Daleks! Crimeny, a giant Dalek battle coulda been way cool with its fighting strategies! Ah well.
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quote:Originally posted by Loyhargil: Anyhoo, saw "Dalek" last night. Bummer that was the last one, because I LOVE how they've updated the Daleks! Crimeny, a giant Dalek battle coulda been way cool with its fighting strategies! Ah well.
*withholds comment until the rest of the season is shown*
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quote:Originally posted by Loyhargil: [QUOTE]Anyhoo, saw "Dalek" last night. Bummer that was the last one, because I LOVE how they've updated the Daleks! Crimeny, a giant Dalek battle coulda been way cool with its fighting strategies! Ah well.
The Dalek was scary. I am delighted, amazed, and impressed.
And if you believe that was the last one, I have some famous architecture to sell you. I mean, (a) we now know they can survive falling from orbit, and (b) they are now bad-@$$ as well as iconic. They'll be back.
Man, now I'm gonna hyperventilate! Bring on the Daleks, baby!!!! Bring 'em on!!!!
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Is there something wrong with me for almost having felt sorry for the dalek at the end of the episode?
And as for there being more (and this goes for Time Lords as well as daleks) ... how can there truly be no more when time travel is possible? All of the ones in existance at a given time might have been destroyed, but is it not possible to travel to a time when they still existed? In the case of the Time Lords in particular, is it not possible to encounter one still out there jaunting through time at a point in his personal history before the Time War that killed them all?
(My apologies if these are DUHHH questions ... I never saw any of the other versions of the show so I don't know any of the extended history of "the way things work." I know nothing about the Time War that was referenced in this episode.)
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quote:Originally posted by TallGeekyGirl: And as for there being more (and this goes for Time Lords as well as daleks) ... how can there truly be no more when time travel is possible? All of the ones in existance at a given time might have been destroyed, but is it not possible to travel to a time when they still existed? In the case of the Time Lords in particular, is it not possible to encounter one still out there jaunting through time at a point in his personal history before the Time War that killed them all?
It's never quite explained, but Gallifrey exists (or existed) kind of outside of time, as did the Time Lords. So they can't go back into their own history and change things (although that doesn't explain the Valeyard, or the multiple Doctor storylines). So once they're wiped out, they're wiped out.
And, of course, there's the idea that they were wiped out backwards in time, as well as at the point that they were wiped out.
Truth be told, I doubt that Russel The Davis himself really knows, and if you asked him he'd say that it "didn't matter".
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Tall Geeky Girl, I expect the writer fully intended for us to feel sorry for the Dalek! That's what made this episode so good.
I'm trying to stay away from the Tennant Doctor Who thread since I won't be seeing that for a while, but I am curious. Is he looking to be a good Doctor?
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Yes, Tennant's shaping up to be excellent, so far. Better than Eccleston, in my opinion.
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Last night, I watched my first Dr. Who in almost 20 years. As soon as I heard the Tardis sound, I was hooked. Then it was THE THEME SONG! I just about woke up the kids when that one hit. I'd forgotten how much I missed that song. Of course it was the Dalek episode I forgot how much I hated/loved those salt shakers from the BBC.
Now the real test will be how I feel about the series AFTER I get over the “Wow I'm 20 again!” and actually WATCH an episode So far, the new doctor is alright. My wife still misses Tom Baker.
Oh, and I still have a Tom Baker Dr. Who scarf that a previous GF made for me. Maybe I'll wear it on Friday for the 'new' episode.
I'll let my kids watch the episode and get their reaction. Like the time we all watched the Thunderbirds (Dad, they're puppets!).
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quote:Originally posted by Rebochan: I recently warned some people on another board not to judge the entirety of the series by the fourth and fifth episodes ("Aliens of London" and "World War Three"). They're really not representative of the series as a whole, and the episode that ran right after is just damn fine entertainment. The first season has some uneveness, but there's too much damn fine drama going on for me to let the stupid farting aliens wreck it for me. Here's to next season having less flatulence and more...well, more awesome.
"Excuse me, would you mind not farting while I'm trying to save the world?"
You Americans should wait until Father's Day. That episode ranks right up there with Dalek, just because it's a story about a companion.
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quote:Originally posted by Doug4.7: Oh, and I still have a Tom Baker Dr. Who scarf that a previous GF made for me. Maybe I'll wear it on Friday for the 'new' episode.
/hijak
Ha! Wanna hear something WAY sad and geeky?
In law school I attended a Halloween party dressed as a Dalek. I spent many hours making it out of black and silver posterboard. It took a while to get the shape of the base just right and get it duct taped well. I made little flaps in the front so I could reach out and get driinks. I had shoulder straps so I could carry the bottom part around with me effortlessly.
The best part? You could remove the top part, and underneat I was Davros, creator of the Daleks, complete with bald-cap with wires running through it.
Being in the middle of the midwest, exactly ONE person knew who I was. That's all it took for me to be happy.
Yeah, I never dressed as a Princess for Halloween. I was far happier underneath a giant paper mache snoopy head.
/end hijak
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There's an article in The Fortean Times about the cybermen. They make a reappearance in this series. I hope America doesn't have to wait a year to see it. The photograph of the new cybermen makes them look brilliant.
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