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Comment: In training, Do US Navy Seals really have to raise a kitten and
eventually kill it? I guess this is supposed to turn them into
cold-blooded killing machines...?

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Nazis, Navy Seals, all the cool kids are doing it. Not to mention all the kittens killed from common household masturbation.

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Yes it true, but first they have to raise them in little square jars.
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If that was all you had to do, I would have volunteered myself!

But my first thought was:

"Kill an aardvark, become an emu!"

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Over here, I heard it was a chicken or a rabbit that then had to be killed and eaten.

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I have seen documentaries where marines had to kill rabbits when on survival training and then eat the rabbit.

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I've heard tell of survival training where the participants spent a week carrying the rabbit or chicken around with them and caring for it, only to have to kill it on the last day and eat it. I took it with a pinch of salt as it seemed very impractical to me to tote a probably unwilling animal around with you.

On Bad Lads Army (the Officer version), the lads were on a cross-country run and were shown how a rabbit was killed. The rabbit had myxy and was in distress so the trainer put it out of its misery with a neck break. The lads then made a grave for it (probably for the sake of the TV cameras). The business of the grave shows how we anthropomorphise animals.

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World champion boxer Kostya Tsyu relates a similar story in his autobiography. He was at a national training camp when he was 16 and had to tend the chickens. (That is not a euphemism)

At the end of the camp, he had to kill all the chickens for everyones dinner.

He went on to be possibly the greatest pound-for-pound fighter ever, so it may work.

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A kitten, huh?

I was told by an Iraqi man (who very much believed it) that American Marines had to kill a member of their own family in order to complete their training. You'd think the Navy Seals would outdo that. Frankly, I'm disappointed.

Killing kittens just doesn't have the dehumanizing effect that it used to.

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So to become a SEAL, he has to kill a member of a Marine's family?? [lol]

Sorry, it had to be said!

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Anybody else think of this?

from "Three Kings":

quote:


Gates: Any questions?
Vig: Yeah, is it true to be special forces, you gotta cut off an enemy's ear?
Gates[to Troy Barlow]; Are you able to control him?


It seems pretty obvious that killing and eating a snake, rabbit, or chicken during survival training is a hell of a lot different than raising and killing a kitten. And besides, if you actually did raise it, it wouldn't really be a kitten any more, now would it? Honestly....

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hehe well I can see the point of killing a snake or a rabbit on Survival Training.. It is *Survival Training* after all, the point from the title seems to be to learn to survive in the wilderness, Dunno about other countries but I know here you can certainly keep yourself fed off rabbits. Perhaps a better way would be to raise a male & female, let them ermm go like rabbits and soon you'll have a banquet [Wink]
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I do know that killing and eating a rabbit is part of the US military's SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) school.

It's designed for pilots and special forces types who are most at risk for being cut off from the main body of US forces and captured. It includes a mock POW camp complete with interrogators and torturers. (FYI: Not sure if the "must sign a waiver to have one small bone broken during interrogation" is true about SERE)

Anyways, everyone I've talked to says the instruction part of the course includes a class on how to eat a rabbit in the field, and get every last bit of nourishment from it, including eating the bone marrow and eyeballs.

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Similar legend (different characters) in another thread:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/ubb/get_topic/f/36/t/000745.html

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I don't know how tough it makes them? Farmers do it all the time. Care for and raise something and then kill and eat it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg of Winter:
It includes a mock POW camp complete with interrogators and torturers. (FYI: Not sure if the "must sign a waiver to have one small bone broken during interrogation" is true about SERE)

Nope.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt H.:
quote:
Originally posted by Greg of Winter:
It includes a mock POW camp complete with interrogators and torturers. (FYI: Not sure if the "must sign a waiver to have one small bone broken during interrogation" is true about SERE)

Nope.
That's right, you actually have to sign a waiver to have either a finger or toe severed with a pair of tin snips.

Right? *nudge* *wink*

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It has nothing to do with 'making them into a killing machine', and why in the heck would they use a cat/kitten?

SEALs are mentally programed to kill in an instant, without hesitation if the situation arises from the earliest stages of training.

And personally, I think every one should have have survival training that would include how to catch, kill, eat and use all of an animal.

. . . and a kitten would hardly be worth the time and trouble. Good grief.

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Im reading a book now about soldiers trained from birth who are given a puppy to raise. After a year they have to kill the puppy. Sounds like a UL to me.
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7thWheel, are you going to keep us in suspense or do we get to know the name and author of the book? [Smile]
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