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Danger Echidna
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This bit of news is a couple of years old, so my apologies if it's been covered already. A quick search in the archives yielded no results.

Anyway, what do you guys make of this?

I just found this article recently, when reading Wikipedia's List of notorious subliminal messages. I'd be very interested in any of your comments, and if anybody happens to know where I can find an audio sample of this toy I'd greatly appreciate it.

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From the article:
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"You know China is not friends with us," Skelton said, speculating about the explanation for what she fears is a subliminal message hidden in the toy. "They're trying to get back at us. What's the best way? Teach kids when they're young to hate. It's scary."

Hmm. No hate there. [Roll Eyes]

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The Skeltons don't plan on taking Wal-Mart up on the refund offer.

"It still plays music," said Blanche, "and if we take it back we lose our proof."

What is she trying to prove? That the Chinese are trying to turn our infants against us for their own gain?

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What do I make of it? It's balderdash, just like the other "messages" in white noise supposedly placed there by dead people (who apparently cannot get Haley Joel Osment's manager to take them seriously, even when Whoopi Goldberg is so busy with some damn awards ceremony). What else do I think? I think Wikipedia is a highly unreliable source if it places this dubious case under the heading "Only subliminal messages proven to be deliberate are located in this part of the list." Proven because some parents said it in the World Net Daily? [Roll Eyes] That's what I make of it. Thanks for asking! [Smile]
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Well, I hope they make tinfoil hats in infants' sizes. [Roll Eyes]

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World Net Daily is about half a step above the quality of Newsmax.com.....and still less accurate than the news that my Rice Krispies gives me each AM.
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Danger Echidna
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I didn't take it seriously in the least myself. But just for curiosity's sake I would have loved to actually hear the "message" they were referring to. I have a weakness for stories like these.

And like S&C, I found the parents' xenophobic reactions to the toy's Chinese origin to be hilariously absurd.

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While you are listening to that make sure you spin your Rolling stones albums backwards to hear those messages too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Danger Echidna:
I didn't take it seriously in the least myself. But just for curiosity's sake I would have loved to actually hear the "message" they were referring to. I have a weakness for stories like these.

And like S&C, I found the parents' xenophobic reactions to the toy's Chinese origin to be hilariously absurd.

Chances are, WorldNetDaily made it up. This is the same company that accused a talk show host I used to work with of "plotting on the air to kill the President." Funny, I was running the show the night they mention and don't remember hearing a single thing like that.

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Blanche does not remember the name of the toy, but said the box bears the Wal-Mart brand label Kid Connection.
Uhh, wouldn't any legit news service have here go back and read the darned toy so they can report the proper name?

My guess is this is a parody of the Fisher Price Ocean Wonders stuff (my kid has one) and nothing else.

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OK, here's another more 'legit' version with a picture of an actual newspaper clipping:

http://www.rense.com/general33/walmartbabycribtoy.htm

-Tim

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wasnt that like the lion king mufasa toy that supposedly cursed or something and it was blamed on how the sound was looped.

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What about the Teletubbies doll that supposedly said "faggot faggot?"
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quote:
Originally posted by Rehcsif Mit:
OK, here's another more 'legit' version with a picture of an actual newspaper clipping:
http://www.rense.com/general33/walmartbabycribtoy.htm
-Tim

That's the same paper originally quoted in the article above and the exact same couple, the only source anyone has brought up so far. So, no, it only serves to further convince me that the story was the couple's active imagination plus a suspicion of toys made in China.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ganzfeld:
That's the same paper originally quoted in the article above and the exact same couple, the only source anyone has brought up so far. So, no, it only serves to further convince me that the story was the couple's active imagination plus a suspicion of toys made in China.

I agree -- I just meant that the first link's journalism was a bit 'questionable' at best, whereas the second seemed a bit more legit reporting-wise.

Without actually hearing a clip of the toy, I have to think it was just random white noise gone awry. Back in college, I had one of those "ocean sounds" CD's to serve as white noise while going to sleep (darned noisy dorms). There were all sorts of weird random sounds you could mistake for speech, whatever...

-Tim

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(I wasn't criticizing your link. Just talking about the subject itself. It's a good link for this topic. [Smile] )
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quote:
Originally posted by moonfall86:
What about the Teletubbies doll that supposedly said "faggot faggot?"

I think it only said that to Jerry Falwell and to impressionable little boys who didn't shower with Dad enough.

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My Dad brought me a Pokemon Pikachu figurine from China, and when you touch both the little buttons on the bottom, it says "Pikachu"...However, after hearing the phrase a few million times, it was sounding more and more like "Fuck You"... The 'Pi' was softer than the rest of the pronunciation.

This same toy used to sit on my window sill, and during rainy weather, something would set it off and it would sit there making it's noises and flashing its red eyes at me.

Very very creepy.

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My kid has an "alphabet pal" toy which is a centepede that teaches the alphabet. There are 26 'feet', each with a letter on it.

One of the toy's modes is "letter sounds", where you press each letter and it gives you the letter sound, e.g. "tuh" for T, "duh" for D, etc. The sound for 'F' is a very pronounced "Fuh"

Quite by accident, I was messing around with the toy, and pressed the F, followed by the K. Rather than pronounce what would be quite an alarming word for a toddler toy to say, it said "Fuh (giggle) (giggle) ooh that tickles! K" I thought this was pretty amusing, and was a little amazed at the foresight of the designers. The only combination of letters that does the 'tickles' is F-K and F-C, all other letter sounds you can run togther.

Then I was at my brothers house, and they have an older version of this same toy from when their kids were younger. I was telling him this story, and went to show it on his toy, and on the older version, you actually could get it to say NFBSK quite clearly! So it seems they actually changed it in the later versions so the toy wouldn't swear anymore...

I wonder how many older brothers/sisters taught their little siblings how to make their toys swear before the company got enough complaints to change it?

-Tim

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quote:
Originally posted by Rehcsif Mit:
My kid has an "alphabet pal" toy which is a centepede that teaches the alphabet. There are 26 'feet'....

PLease tell me its really a caterpillar, not my least favorite animal in the world.

We had a learning toy like that, a frog. Of course, I had to try all the dirty pronunciations but among its thousands of real words, it was also programmed not to make any pronunciations that were rude.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ganzfeld:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rehcsif Mit:
[qb] PLease tell me its really a caterpillar, not my least favorite animal in the world.

Yeah, it's a caterpillar I guess -- all those feet got me saying the wrong thing! (do caterpillars even have feet?)

In any case, this is the toy.

ETA: A quick google shows this to be a known thing (guess I'm not the only one who attempts to make their kid's toys curse [Eek!] ). I even found a review on Amazon that was commenting that you could make the toy curse, which must have been someone who had the older version like my brother.

-Tim

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quote:
Originally posted by Rehcsif Mit:
Yeah, it's a caterpillar I guess -- all those feet got me saying the wrong thing! (do caterpillars even have feet?)

Whew. (To me, giving a baby a centipede toy would be worse than a toy rattlesnake.) Yeah, they have six real legs and a bunch of others that act as legs.

The first thing I do with my son's toys is make them talk dirty. It's just for parental inspection purposes, you see. [Big Grin]

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My daughter has a "Leap's Phonics Library". It has all the letters of the alphabet (in the form of buttons) on these little book-looking plastic...things. Anyways...

It has a mode where you can make three-letter words and the thing will repeat it back to you. If you try F-U-K, D-I-K, or T-I-T, or any similar combinations, the thing will always say "Let's play!" when you press the last letter.

I was QUITE relieved, seeing how it was my daughter who happened upon the first of those three combinations! Yes...my wife and I tried the other combinations for the "sanctity of our daughter's ears". Yup, that's why! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by moonfall86:
What about the Teletubbies doll that supposedly said "faggot faggot?"

We had one of those- probably still do around here somewhere. It DOES sound like it is saying "faggot faggot."

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I remember several funny stories in this vein--one was a talking doll that several people in South Carolina bought for their daughters in 1983. When the kids pulled the dolls' strings much to the parents' horror the doll said "Kill Mommy!"

Except it didn't really say "Kill Mommy,"---the dolls were saying "Quiero Mama", which is Spanish for "I want my mommy." The company that made the dolls had goofed and sent them by mistake to an area where few people spoke Spanish.

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The "I Hate You" toy?

I was suspicious because of the names in the article. (I'm an onomastician, which is one who studies names from a linguistic point of view.)

Was this by chance a Halloween article?

Tipoffs:
Skelton = skeleton
Blanche (mother) means "white", hence "white skeleton," suggesting dried up bones.
Gary (father) = "gory"

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quote:
Originally posted by Cruztacean:
I was suspicious because of the names in the article. Was this by chance a Halloween article?

See the second link above. The date of the article is January. I think this is a Christmas hangover rather than a Halloween stupor.
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quote:
Originally posted by moonfall86:
What about the Teletubbies doll that supposedly said "faggot faggot?"

Someone I knew had that Po doll. It was a great audio Rorschach. We never did figure out what it was *supposed* to be saying, but the interpretation that sticks in my memory is, "Faggot-faggot ... faggot-faggot ... faggot-faggot ... bite my butt."

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...but the interpretation that sticks in my memory is, "Faggot-faggot ... faggot-faggot ... faggot-faggot ... bite my butt."

I'm sorry to bring the thread to the top but...is anything else thinking this would be a possible #1 Billboard Dance Hit, with several different mixes?

[lol] [fish]

SW

ETA: I just cracked myself up - I love when that happens LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by FlashleighGordon:
My Dad brought me a Pokemon Pikachu figurine from China, and when you touch both the little buttons on the bottom, it says "Pikachu"...However, after hearing the phrase a few million times, it was sounding more and more like "Fuck You"... The 'Pi' was softer than the rest of the pronunciation.

This is funny - I believe I have the exact same toy. A few years ago, I brought it into one of my college classes and played the "Pikachu" sound for a few of the girls in the class.. I was completely bewildered when, instead of saying 'oh, cute!', they gasped and gave me the most horrified looks! Honestly, I never heard anything vulgar in it and they refused to tell me what they thought it was saying. .. I guess now I know [Razz]

It never activated on its own, though, thank goodness ((I had a music box that used to do that..very creepy))

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Aren't most toys made in China these days? I think it would take a bit of searching to find one that isn't. So I hope the family in the OP aren't buying their kids any more toys!

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[hijack]

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Originally posted by Ganzfeld:
It's balderdash, just like the other "messages" in white noise supposedly placed there by dead people (who apparently cannot get Haley Joel Osment's manager to take them seriously, even when Whoopi Goldberg is so busy with some damn awards ceremony).

But Whoopie played an Aunt to Haley Joel Osment, who was seeing an invisible person (Gerard Depardieu) in Bogus, so it all connects somehow...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by mommyrex:
...but the interpretation that sticks in my memory is, "Faggot-faggot ... faggot-faggot ... faggot-faggot ... bite my butt."

I'm sorry to bring the thread to the top but...is anything else thinking this would be a possible #1 Billboard Dance Hit, with several different mixes?

[lol] [fish]

SW

ETA: I just cracked myself up - I love when that happens LOL

Now THAT was funny! [lol]

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