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Kid Kilowatt
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Most places who "charge for the cup" do it to keep track of inventory. 7-11 is like the Gestapo of cup inventory; you can't look at a cup without them trying to charge you for it. I often wonder what kind of meetings the franchisees have about these things with corporate. Very scary, I presume.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fitz:
Here in the US an anti-rave law that was passed in the last few years could make giving away free water at a rave a crime.

Care to provide a cite for this?

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It seems like everyone is taking guesses on this issue. Is there really a law that govern this rule? Where can you find out for sure?
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I think this whole thing is a misunderstanding of a different law. I remember about 20 years ago it was common for a waiter/waitress to bring you a glass of water when you first sat down, before you ordered. Most people would then order a Coke, beer, or whatever, to go with their meal. The water would be wasted. Several states (I believe California was the first) passed laws that prohibited serving water unless the customer asked for it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rough Rider:
... Several states (I believe California was the first) passed laws that prohibited serving water unless the customer asked for it.

Why were the states so obsessed with this very particular type of water waste that they passed a law about what restauraunts could serve without a specific request?
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The water issue in a London pub or whatever is just a reflection of the real battle, which is going on in the South. In many countries that have either had no water meters, or no public water supply in the first place, it's getting privatized and then sold on a cost-recovery basis. Most infamously in Bolivia, where people were told that they couldn't draw water from wells that they themselves had dug on their own land. But it is a huge problem, since the poor have flocked to major cities, among other reasons, because there was a free and dependable water supply there.
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About a year ago I was almost charged for water. I went to mcdonalds with 2 adults and 4 kids and afeter ordering all our food it was like $40+ and I asked for water. The girl tried to charge me 50cents for tap water. I was so pissed I canceled the whole order and went to Wendy's.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rough Rider:
I think this whole thing is a misunderstanding of a different law. I remember about 20 years ago it was common for a waiter/waitress to bring you a glass of water when you first sat down, before you ordered. Most people would then order a Coke, beer, or whatever, to go with their meal. The water would be wasted. Several states (I believe California was the first) passed laws that prohibited serving water unless the customer asked for it.

Here in the south (at least in my area) it's pretty common for a restaurant to bring water as soon as you sit down.

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It's about 60 -40 here in Washington. At sit down restuarants, I've never been charged for water, and they often bring a large pitcher of ice water for us to continue refilling our glasses.
At fast food restaurants, it depends on the restaurant whether I get charged -- "for the cup". Usually it's free.
Never been to a bar.

ETA: Just remembered - When I was underage, like 19 0r 20, I used to stop in at the bar whilst rollerblading home and ask for water bottle refills. They always obliged at that particular bar. I would have to wait outside or sit in the eatery section while they refilled it, though.

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Most fast food places charge for the cup and no longer give free water. One reason for that is that many people ask for a water cup and then go fill it up with whatever they want wich is obnoxious imho. It has probably ruined a good thing for everyone else too.

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Charging for the cup may sound silly, but in most cases it really isn't. I used to work at a diner on the pier in Newport Beach that also had a take-out window in back. We used to give out water for free, until the Junior Lifeguards figured this out and started coming up in droves to demand water--and then not ordering anything. One time we ended up giving away an entire sleeve of cups. After that, our policy was: free water on request for anyone who BUYS something, 25 cents for the cup if you're only getting water. Not only did it keep our costs down, it kept the little snots from coming back, which freed up our takeout window for real orders.

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Originally posted by Tabby + claws - sanity:
If somebody brings in their own glass, you cannot charge them or refuse to fill it.

Bit of a health code violation there. You can't refill a dirty/outside glass from a fountain. Maybe from an actual tap, but any decent sized restaurant is already using a fountain anyway. Even for the coffee/tea water.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rough Rider:
I think this whole thing is a misunderstanding of a different law. I remember about 20 years ago it was common for a waiter/waitress to bring you a glass of water when you first sat down, before you ordered. Most people would then order a Coke, beer, or whatever, to go with their meal. The water would be wasted. Several states (I believe California was the first) passed laws that prohibited serving water unless the customer asked for it.

I seem to recall the automatic glass of water vanishing during a few years of drought, but I don't remember if it was driven by law or not.

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When I lived in VA I believe tap water was free. Once here in NY I ordered a dbl cheesburger (which was NOT on the $1 menu and a water) I was one pissed pregnant girl when they told me they couldnt give it through the drive through window. One broad even claimed she was the manager. However the guy in the basically took my order(maybe he didn't understand english, he had a thick accent). WTF! I don't go there anymore [Smile]
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In California, during the drought, there was an agreement, rather than a law, (I believe) for restaurants to serve water only on request. There really were gallons being wasted, and everyone was being requested to do things like take shorter showers, cut back on washing, etc.

Likewise during our energy crisis, a lot of public requests for conservation were made-- however, it was still legal to waste electricity.

Now, most restaurants still are serving water only on request, although some have gone back to pouring it automatically. If you request water with food, you will not be charged for the water.

If you ask for water at a movie theater or fast food place, the usualy thing is a charge of 5 to 25 cents for the cup and ice.

I have also heard it's a law they can't charge for water, but I don't know for a fact.

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