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Remarkgullabull
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I just want to know, who defined heaven as being "up" and hell as being "down".....


When my life is over and my time has come to pass, I hope they bury me upside down so the world can kiss my ass!

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Meh. Everyone knows that we're already dead, we were really good, and this is the afterlife. The proof of this is that there is so much to drink and to fight and to steal. And you don't "die", you get born and have to go back to living.

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quote:
Originally posted by Remarkgullabull:
I just want to know, who defined heaven as being "up" and hell as being "down".....


When my life is over and my time has come to pass, I hope they bury me upside down so the world can kiss my ass!

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this has been answered earlier in the thread. The ancient Greeks believed the god Hades' Kingdom of the Dead was underneath the Earth. Hades himself was not considered an evil god, but he was feared because he also was supposed to punish the worst evildoers and the ones who had offended the gods. Later on, the Christians hijacked the greek and roman mythology and associated Hades with Satan, and his kingdom as a place of eternal torment.

As for Heaven, the Greeks and Romans believed the Righteous and Virtuous would go to the Elysian Fields, which were not situated in the skies (in fact it was the Kingdom of the Dead's VIP lounge), but as the *really* greatest Heroes sometimes became deities and rose to Mount Olympus (or Zeus/Jupiter placing constellations in the sky to honor them), the origin of Heaven being "up there" is also obvious.

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If you really want to know about the differences between heaven and hell you should read Job: a comedy of justice by Robert A. Heinlein.

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If you really want to know about the differences between heaven and hell you should read Job: a comedy of justice by Robert A. Heinlein.
Or just read it because it's a good book.

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I thought that Greek mythology did allocate a part of Hades for punishment of the truly wicked-Tartarus.
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quote:
Originally posted by Phaedra:
A quote from the British archaeology magazine. (March 2003) had the following to say about face down burials.

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A substantial minority of burials, however, show a different and darker attitude to corpses. These rough burials are often written off as 'careless', but the patterns are too consistent across Roman Britain for simple negligence to be the explanation. These disturbing burials include bodies that are dismembered, mutilated, bound, buried face down, decapitated, with signs of violence other than warfare, or with evidence for defleshing and exposure. The two most common variants are prone (face-down) and decapitated burials.
This practice may suggest a belief in an afterlife and a motive to punish beyond death.

ETA comment.

Posthumous punishment happened much later than Roman times. Several of the regicides of King Charles 1st suffered similar treatment and were hung drawn and quartered, in some cases years after their deaths (late 1600s). Oliver Cromwell was one of them. Of course, some had this treatment to kill them.
I am descended from one of the "repentant regicides" who died in prison.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brandi:
The only thing I'd ever heard regarding face-down burial was that if it was thought that the dead person was a candidate for coming back from the dead as a vampire or revenant (due to any number of really odd factors ranging from being a sorceror to accidents of birth), they might be buried face-down so that they would dig themselves deeper if they woke up.

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