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Joseph Z
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I've seen Hollywood movies involving using a pillow or other imaginative items laying around like a coke bottle put over the front of the gun and acted as a silencer killing the target.

But can a pillow or coke bottle be used for a silencer?

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According to http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html#Sound <- These guys... no. No you can't.

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Our favorite is a scene from On Deadly Ground where Steven Seagal "effectively" silences a semi-automatic handgun by taping an empty 2 liter soft drink bottle to the end of the gun barrel and gets the usual "fut" sound. At best, jury-rigged silencers can reduce noise levels only slightly.


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A silencer works by trapping the expanding gases coming out of the muzzle. You can use a 2 liter plastic soda bottle as a field expedient silencer of sorts, because it traps the gases a little. A pillow should be worthless for supressing the noise, but could, at close range, hide powder marks.

Sorry, I'm relying on my basic firearms training. I tried to find links to the science of ballistics and such, but Yahoo kept giving me sites that want to sell me stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by effo5231:
According to http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html#Sound <- These guys... no. No you can't.

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Our favorite is a scene from On Deadly Ground where Steven Seagal "effectively" silences a semi-automatic handgun by taping an empty 2 liter soft drink bottle to the end of the gun barrel and gets the usual "fut" sound. At best, jury-rigged silencers can reduce noise levels only slightly.

That "pfut" sound is just a sound effect. A supressed firearm still goes "BANG," but its a quieter bang, and you can still hear the working of the mechanism. An example is a supressed MP-5, which to me sounds like a real fast nail gun.

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quote:
Originally posted by DAnnino:
That "pfut" sound is just a sound effect. A supressed firearm still goes "BANG," but its a quieter bang, and you can still hear the working of the mechanism. An example is a supressed MP-5, which to me sounds like a real fast nail gun.

Like I said, it might silence the weapon, but not by more than... I believe the article said 3 decibles. (A gun shot is typcially measured at around 170 decibles So we're not talking about a real impressive reduction here.)

And as far as preventing the escape of gas, a coke bottle is not going to end up with a quaint button shaped bullet hole on the bottom after a gun is fired into it. The end will balloon outward and the whole bottom of the bottle will open up, effectively releasing all that gas.

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Things on a handgun
Low budget rip off of Snakes on a plane?

Sorry, I had to!

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"Silencers" are compicated to say the least.

Guns make sound it two ways, first the explosion of poweder inside the cartridge which fires the bullet, and secondly the fact that many bullets travel faster then the speed of sound and create small sonic booms.

It is possible to suppress, although not silence, a gunshot.

First of all the gun has to be a enclosed type. Despite hundreds of Hollywood allusions otherwise, you cannot effectively silence a revolver, a gun with a vented barrel, or other weapons that have gaps, holes, or other open places in their construction that would allow sound to escape from the firing chamber. It very possible to attach both professional and handmade silencers to revolvers and other weapons as examples of such weapons are found by police with regular frequency, they just don't work.

Professional Silencers work not unlike the muffler of a car, by letting the gas escape slowely instead of all at once, creating a longer but quieter sound.

Secondly to get over the sound the bullet itself makes, the bullet must be of a low caliber, either a .22, .32, .380, or some specially made .45 or 9mm ammunition to prevent the bullet from traveling faster then the speed of sound. As you can imagine this makes silenced guns much less powerful.

And as others have said the Hollywood "pfft" sound hardly describes the sound a real silenced gun makes. It's still a bang, a very loud bang, just not as loud.

Plastic bottles, condoms, rubber bottle nipples, and even potatos have been used to muffle one shot from a pistol, but these methods are horribly unreliable and usually reduce either the aim or the accuracy of the weapon so much as to make it useless for anything but point blank range.

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I've fired the suppressed version of the MP5 - the MP5D3 - and it's makes a sharp crack that while a lot quieter than the standard version is still not the sewing-machine noise used in the Delta Force games. According to Jane's, the gun bleeds off some of the propellant gases to slow the bullet down.

The Russians have perfected a method that is said to produce a near-silent weapon; the captured piston system. When the cartridge is fired, an internal piston is driven forward by the expanding gases, propelling the bullet from the barrel. The gases are held in check inside the case by the piston, resulting in absolute silence when the pistol is fired, or so it is claimed.

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Can't verify the truth about this, but I read recently that US weapons designers have designed a silencer so effective that the report of the fire is actually quieter than the hammer striking the bullet and the next round being chambered. Its allegedly a special forces item.

Sounds bogus but it would be pretty cool... Your blasting away and the only noise is "Click click click click click."

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In a series of Batman comics called The Long Halloween, the killer silences his gun by using a baby bottle nipple. How well would that work in real life? I'll guess there will still be a sound because apparently you can't silence a gun one-hundred percent. Any gun nuts want to help out the clueless?

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In a series of Batman comics called The Long Halloween, the killer silences his gun by using a baby bottle nipple. How well would that work in real life? I'll guess there will still be a sound because apparently you can't silence a gun one-hundred percent. Any gun nuts want to help out the clueless?
I can't see any way in which this would work.

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quote:
Originally posted by effo5231:
Can't verify the truth about this, but I read recently that US weapons designers have designed a silencer so effective that the report of the fire is actually quieter than the hammer striking the bullet and the next round being chambered. Its allegedly a special forces item.

Sounds bogus but it would be pretty cool... Your blasting away and the only noise is "Click click click click click."

There was a weapon designed for use by British Commandos in WW2 - the De Lisle carbine - that supposedly made less noise than the hammer falling on the chamber. It fired a .45 calibre round.

On the down side, it was bolt action, which was quite noisy in its own right...

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Tidbit I had heard a while back:

A Korean War veteran who worked in the gun department of an army/navy store (a guy I used to work with) claimed that the best way to silence a shot was a potato jammed over the gun barrel, and explained it with a lengthy description of the physics. Being that this guy was a firearm-obsessive war veteran who practically pooped bullets, I found it reasonable. Although I've never had any need to silence a shot and therefore have never employed his technique to verify his claim.

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That potato would explode like a hand grenade. No chance.

Ca "potato masher" sey

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The only thing I have heard of that works realy well, is to load your own rounds so that they fire at a subsonic speed. The gun still makes sound when firing, but it is greatly reduced. The effective range is greatly reduced as well, but with hand guns you are almost alway using it at short range.
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I smell a Mythbusters episode. I think I'll even go over to the forums and see if this has been suggested already.

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quote:
Originally posted by Casey, off the deep end:
That potato would explode like a hand grenade. No chance.

You also run the risk of exploding the barrel if anything is jammed inside the barrel.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mouse:
In a series of Batman comics called The Long Halloween, the killer silences his gun by using a baby bottle nipple. How well would that work in real life? I'll guess there will still be a sound because apparently you can't silence a gun one-hundred percent. Any gun nuts want to help out the clueless?

It doesn't work. A former Law enforcement friend and I went out and tested different silencers with a rifle using .22 CB ammunition which is already very quiet.

Baby bottle nipples were a pain to get to stay on and did nothing. 2-liter bottles were actually louder as the bottom exploded outward. We used an apple instead of a potato but it had no effect. The only thing we found that actually worked was a rather long sound suppressor built out of pipe, washers, and insulation. Even that didn't work well.

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I read in a novel somewhere that a PVC pipe, three tennis balls, and steel wool worked well as a (large) supressor. You'd have to cram the tennis balls together in the tube,fill the gaps with steel wool, and have a cap on either side to prevent the contents from falling out. I have no idea if it works, it seems like it might slightly reduce the sound.

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You also run the risk of exploding the barrel if anything is jammed inside the barrel.
It's never a good idea to have anything in the barrel, but it's unlikely to explode. MythBusters did a lot to get a barrel to explode, and it just didn't happen.

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The problem with the Mythbusters episode is that they used modern steel barrels. If they had used guns with Damascus steel barrels, they would have split. I’ve seen photos of a shotgun that was plugged with mud and fired. The end had blown open like a banana peel.

Of course, Damascus steel barrels are much weaker and I think they stopped making them around the turn of the century. That is why you don’t want to fire modern ammo in an old gun.

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Modern barrels can also split. I've seen images of rifles where people have played around with filing a cross in the tip of the bullet. The bullet fell apart in the barrel, shooting the lead out of the jacket, leaving the jacket in the barrel. The next bullet lodged in the barrel and the barrel split like a banana peel, injuring a bystander with shrapnel.

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quote:
Originally posted by Joe Bentley:


Secondly to get over the sound the bullet itself makes, the bullet must be of a low caliber, either a .22, .32, .380, or some specially made .45 or 9mm ammunition to prevent the bullet from traveling faster then the speed of sound. As you can imagine this makes silenced guns much less powerful.


You are on the right track. There is "subsonic" ammo available for lower noise levels that is used with silencers. It is generally available for most semi-auto handguns.
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You can make silencers of about any efficiency. Just how big a silencer do you want to carry is the real question. You just need to use subsonic ammo and have a silencer big enough to handle the gas volume of the cartridge you are firing. Most hollywood silencers are far too small for anything bigger than a .22 rimfire.

A empty 2 liter bottle still makes a lot of noise, because the expanding gas will strike the bottle surface like a drum membrane, and make it's own pop. Fill the bottle with something like fibrous dacron pillow stuffing will get you a good effect along with subsonic ammo, but make the gun hard to aim.

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In the spirit of silence, and a WHOLE lot of testosterone, I went out to a shooting range with some friends this past weekend.

Using a Sig .40 caliber handgun, we went through 20 pounds of potatoes, a cantaloupe, a watermelon, and a full dozen empty gallon milk containers.

Using full potatoes supported by sandbags, and firing close to them, we got mashed potatoes and a big bang.

Cutting a small hole in a potato and inserting the muzzle in the hole, we got mashed potatoes and a big bang.

Doing everything we could think of, the best we got was using a gallon milk jug with about 10-15 ounces of water in the "bottom" (turned sideways, the side became the bottom). The signature was completely changed, and sounded like a half-power blast of a shotgun, or a shotgun being fired in a house nearby.

The only thing silenced were the few of us that thought it would work.

Anyone up for some mashed potatoes?

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Are there such things as silencers for tanks and artilery?

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No.

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quote:
Originally posted by dreams of thinking machines:
Are there such things as silencers for tanks and artilery?

Yes. 500lb bombs or a well placed RPG will "silence" a tank or artillery gun quite effectively. [Razz]

More to the point however is why would you really need/want to? Artillery is usually fired from so far away that all a target usually hears is rolling thunder in the distance. If they hear anything. Tanks usually fire line of site and, like artillery, have such a huge muzzle flash and pressure wave that you'd see/feel it as much as hear it.

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Tanks usually fire line of site and, like artillery, have such a huge muzzle flash and pressure wave that you'd see/feel it as much as hear it.

The USS Iowa demonstrates such a muzzle flash and pressure wave (nine 16" and six 5").

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The USS Iowa demonstrates such a muzzle flash and pressure wave (nine 16" and six 5").
I suspect it's a bad idea to be on the deck when it's firing...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by dreams of thinking machines:
Are there such things as silencers for tanks and artilery?

Yes. 500lb bombs or a well placed RPG will "silence" a tank or artillery gun quite effectively. [Razz]

More to the point however is why would you really need/want to? Artillery is usually fired from so far away that all a target usually hears is rolling thunder in the distance. If they hear anything. Tanks usually fire line of site and, like artillery, have such a huge muzzle flash and pressure wave that you'd see/feel it as much as hear it.

In order to be silenced, it would have to be a subsonic round (just like any other silenced weapon). Since the standard APFSDS armor piercing round relies on kinetic energy to penetrate the target, that wouldn't be feasible. You'd have to slow it down from some 1,575 m/s to under 340 m/s and render it unable to penetrate much of anything. Of course, at 4000m, the sound takes over 11 seconds to reach the target while the round only takes 2.5 seconds, but the smoke is the real giveaway.

Likewise, to render artillery sub-sonic, you'd have to reduce it's range so much to be almost pointless. With regular ammunition, the pressure wave and blast, however, wouldn't be felt or seen or heard at the target area...which for artillery is over 18 km and around 43km for the USS Iowa's 16" guns...far beyond visual and audible range.

Mortars, however, are generally sub-sonic, and make a relatively quiet 'thump'.

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quote:
Originally posted by Troberg:
Modern barrels can also split. I've seen images of rifles where people have played around with filing a cross in the tip of the bullet.

Is there a particular reason why they would want to do this? Hunting vampires, perhaps?

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The military studied it: Feasibility of an Artillery Silencer

And apparently one was constructed (some people say it's a tank silencer for practice near a town, other say it's a testing device).

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Modern barrels can also split. I've seen images of rifles where people have played around with filing a cross in the tip of the bullet.

Is there a particular reason why they would want to do this? Hunting vampires, perhaps?
To make a homemade hollowpoint.

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Modern barrels can also split. I've seen images of rifles where people have played around with filing a cross in the tip of the bullet.

Is there a particular reason why they would want to do this? Hunting vampires, perhaps?
To make a homemade hollowpoint.
Ahhhh - that makes sense. The visual just didn't connect in my head.

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