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naharnahekim
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My mom sent me the folowing email, figured you all could have a good time with it. I put my immediate response underneath. As always, my spelling is unapoligitcally terrible.


I assume that you have learned about the plot uncovered in Europe yesterday regarding terrorists placing liquid explosives on aircraft from England to the U.S.

So far, twenty Muslims have been arrested in England who they say are members of the plotters.

The question I have is, should we profile Muslims or continue the stupidity that political correctness imposes.

Should we profile Muslims?

In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Lenno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed
into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremist s mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. 2004 - Spain Railwayy bombings.
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

15. 2005 London Railway bombings
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Do you see a pattern here to justify profiling?

To ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners should notprofile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because profiling is not politically correct.

When are we going to wake up to reality?

Maurice


Most of this is just off of the top of my head, so I can't address every
single question
1> sirhan Sirhan, the guy who shot RFK was palastinian born american
citizen. He killed RFK becuase of RFK's pro-isreal leanings. This too
many is an indication of Muslim extremism, however the
palstinian'israely conflict is a POLITICAL conflict based on land and
continued israely encrochment on arab land. It might also be pertinent
to point out that when the nation of israel was created in 1947 many
arabs who were already living on the land and were forced off (unable to
defend themselves becuase, under british rule they had all their weapons
taken away) Lastly I have read on a couple pages the sirhan was a life
long roman catholic/christian.

2. once again these men were involved with the PLO A political
organization that was birth by israely occupation and encrochment

4. I can only assume the the lebonize hostages were taken by hezbellah,
I'm guessing here. but if this is the case yet another political org. in
reaction to israel

6. Again the PLO

12. The taliban, which had as many muslim detractors, even in afganistan
as it did supporters.

This kind of aver simplification is, well, just sad. It's sole purpose
is to spread fear and desention. What about "johnny taliban" the
american kid cuaght in afganistan? what about timothy mcvay, the
una-bomber, or that guy who had a bomb in his shoe? Further more, do we
as american's truely want to stand behind statements such as these,
implying that one group of people deserve less right's than another?
I honostly don't give a crap about offending anyone, it's the
constitution that we are supposedly fighting to protect that I care
about. That constitution states that all people are equal, regardless of
race color and creed. Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up
essential liberties to ensure safety deserve neither". This statement
must extend not only to our own rights and libirties, but to everyone
else's. Without these rights, we become no better than the terrorist's
themselves. Check out this video:
http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/08/081006.html

Also anytime you get something like this, go to snopes.com, they have
great info and are for the most part even handed.

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Starla
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The Oklahoma Federal Building was bombed by...
White American male between the ages of 17-40

Poly Klaus was kidnapped and murdered by...
White American male between the ages of 17-40

Hiroshima was nuked by...
White American males between the ages of 17-40

Anthrax was sent my mail, terrorizing a country by...
White male between the ages of 17-40

The most notorious serial killers have nearly all been..
White males between the ages of 17-40


Should we be racially profiling?

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liebeslied
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It really doesn't seem fair to include attacks that took place in countries where most of the population is Muslim. After all, most violent crime in the US is perpetrated by Americans. That's at least a third of the list. Anyway, if you're in an airport in the middle east, "profiling" middle-eastern-looking men is pointless.
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I was reading some were years ago that some of the best security agancies to profile. They use a list of things they are looking for in a person and how thay act. The list maybe only 10 or 12 things and they maybe race, age, and sex. Those items alone will not make a person suspicious, but with other things on the list they my become a suspect. This list is also tailored to what you are looking for. If you are looking for a serial killer the list would not contain "Muslim male between the ages of 17 and 40". The list would have "white male between the ages of 17 and 40", but that does not mean it has to be a white person or even a male. So the person checking has a list to profile with, but no one or two items will make a person suspect, but several will.

So if you are looking at serial kill. A person being a white male, age 22 and owning the type of blue car seen at the crime would not be enought to make then a supsect. Add that the frequent the bar were the victim was last seen and he own the type of gun used and now he is a suspect. Just as easy a black woman age 55, seen leaving the bar with the victim and drive the same car that was seen and own the type of gun used would also suspect.

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asnakeny
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quote:
Originally posted by naharnahekim:
however the
palstinian'israely conflict is a POLITICAL conflict based on land
2. once again these men were involved with the PLO A political
organization that was birth by israely occupation and encrochment

Jus so you know, the PLO was founded in 1964 before Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza. In the mind of Israelis (and many others), the conflict is not just a political disagreement about land: radical Palestinians (and other extremists) do not believe Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state, and hence all of Israel is "occupied territory".

As proof in point: Israel withdrew from Gaza entirely, and the Hamas government continued attacks on Israeli towns and civilian targets.

None of that justifies racial profiling, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Starla:

Hiroshima was nuked by...
White American males between the ages of 17-40

I'm pretty sure that the order to drop the bombs on Hiroshima was given by a white man over the age of 40.

quote:

Anthrax was sent my mail, terrorizing a country by...
White male between the ages of 17-40

Do you know something we don't? The anthrax mailings in the fall of 2001 have not been solved yet, so it is a bit premature to definitively state that the perpetrator is a white male between 17 and 40.

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quote:
Originally posted by naharnahekim:
Lastly I have read on a couple pages the sirhan was a life
long roman catholic/christian.

Baptist then Seventh Day Adventist

Sirhan Sirhan

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quote:
Originally posted by asnakeny:
quote:
Originally posted by Starla:

Hiroshima was nuked by...
White American males between the ages of 17-40

I'm pretty sure that the order to drop the bombs on Hiroshima was given by a white man over the age of 40.
He was 61.

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