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The following email came across my desk. I don't like to be paranoid, but it seems to me that this Administration could hide the Golden Gate Bridge if it wanted to, so anybody know if this is a hoax or for real?:
From: David Kesten To: ddk12@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:30 AM Subject: Laura Bush
Informed sources Inside the Beltway report that First Lady Laura Bush has established temporary residence in the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, DC as a result of a tiff with President Bush over an extramarital relationship involving her husband.
Mr. Bush's tryst is said to involve Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
It is not known how long Mrs. Bush plans to remain at the Mayflower, however, her security detail has been present at the hotel during hours when the First Lady would normally be residing in the White House.
While she was National Security Adviser, Rice, who has never been married, referred to George W. Bush as "my husband" before she corrected herself and said, "the president." Rice was speaking at a dinner when she made her "husband" remarks.
A White House source, speaking on background, vehemently denied to WMR that there are marital problems between President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush over a reported extramarital affair between Mr. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. However, two mainstream media sources have confirmed that their sources also have reported an ongoing affair between Mr. Bush and Rice.
The mainstream media is hamstrung in reporting stories about Bush's personal life. For example, in 2001, the media highlighted Bush's comments about his passing out from choking on a pretzel while watching a football game in the White House. In reality, Bush, who claims he gave up drinking years ago, passed out from being inebriated. Washington's movers and shakers knew the story about Bush's drinking but the media studiously avoided it. http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Update – June 3, 2006
WMR can report that a Mayflower Hotel staffer has confirmed that First Lady Laura Bush spent at least one night this past week at the hotel, which is four blocks north of the White House. Mrs. Bush reportedly moved out of the White House after a confrontation with President Bush over his on-going affair with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. The Mayflower's official position on the story is that they can "neither confirm nor deny" the identities of their guests. Because it's penchant for security and secrecy is well known to the Secret Service, the Mayflower has become a reliable hotel for U.S. and international VIPs.
Some Washington observers believe that the recent flare up between Laura Bush and the president stems from the fact that her poll numbers are twice as favorable as her husband's (60 percent to 29 percent). Laura Bush's recent solo missions to New Orleans, Colorado, and an AIDS conference at the United Nations represent a virtual declaration of independence from the most unpopular president in U.S. history. "She's [Laura's] taking a page right out of Hillary's book," said one Washington pundit. Rice, on the other hand, has been very close and loyal to Bush since she signed on as his chief foreign policy adviser in 2000. WMR has been told of intimate encounters between Mr. Bush and Rice on trips to New York City (multiple occasions) and New Orleans following Katrina.
WMR has received numerous email from the typical right-wing political direct marketing operations with the same talking point: how dare we violate the privacy of the President and First Lady in time of war. To refresh the memory of the right, we offer this one peek into recent history:
Feb. 18, 1998 (CNN) -- . . . Clinton also faces a divided public. In the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, 54 percent of people surveyed said they would prefer to see the Iraqi crisis resolved by diplomatic pressure and economic sanctions. Maybe more importantly, though, the poll indicated a significant drop since early February in support for military strikes against Iraq, from 50 percent to 41 percent. At the same time, by about a 2-1 margin, people say if the U.S. does attack, its goal should be remove Hussein, not just to reduce Iraq's capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and threaten its neighbors.
And Clinton has another problem, and her name is Monica Lewinsky. In this public test of wills with Hussein, Clinton has tried to stake out the moral high ground. He has talked about "the chance to do the right thing for our children and grandchildren." But some of his political opponents think Clinton cannot claim the moral high ground, not now, not after the past month's lurid tales. As restrained as Republicans have been in discussing the Lewinsky controversy, there are signs that approach is ending.
In the GOP view of morality, Republican Presidents are entitled to more privacy than Democratic Presidents.
In another bit of GOP hypocrisy, on Monday, President Bush will hold a VIP ceremony at the White House to back a bill enshrining a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. The name of the legislation: The Sanctity of Marriage Act. WMR hopes the mainstream TV media will focus on Laura Bush's facial reaction when Mr. Bush proclaims his support for The Sanctity of Marriage Act, i.e., if Mrs. Bush is even present for the event.
Postscript: We want to thank radio hosts Randi Rhodes and Stephanie Miller for not being cowered by the right-wing spin machine and reporting this story on their programs.
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Since it is preceded by highly accurate horoscope information, who can doubt it? It must be true.
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That story was on the front page of the Star, or the Globe, or the Enqueer, or whatever those tabloids are.
So it MUST be true.
heh.
-personally I detest that man almost more than any thing on the face of the earth but I think that dilly dallying in that manner is NOT one of his many character flaws. He's arrogant and spoiled, clueless as to how the real world works, and all sorts of other things, but I personally wouldn't suspect him of being a lothario.
-although, if it WERE true, boy oh BOY am I gonna have some WICKED WICKED WICKED fun with all my friends and relatives who expressed horror and utter disgust, to the point of practically needing therapy, about the Lewinsky deal. MUhahahaha!!!!!!!!! I tell you it's a leftie wet dream...
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If this is true, I'm just disillusioned to find out that Condoleezza Rice has such poor taste....
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opposites attract?? total BS, If L had a tiff with G its because he might be on the Scotch again.
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I don't believe it's true. What woman in her right mind, especially one so poised, educated and attractive, would even look twice at GWB? Apologies to Mrs. Bush. She is poised, educated and attractive. I guess there's no explaining love. Love is blind. *Insert your favorite cliché here: ___________________________________*
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Ya know I've not heard Ms Rice speak that often, but when I have she, of course, speaks better than our malaprop President, but she stumbles and fumbles for words etc. I just have not been impressed with her public speaking abilities. Perhaps the half dozen or so times I've heard her she was having a bad day?
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And Rice did make the "my husband" ... "I mean the president" fumble. Whether it was a freudian slip or not, who knows. It is really bizarre though, given that she has never been married.
quote:Originally posted by Legends of the Hidden Jay Temple: Agreed. Why would someone who speaks as well as she does want a guy who can't even match subject and verb?
Is this an allusion to that Chris Rock bit about Colin Powell?
quote: ... in 1984, I watched him perform (with the enthusiasm of homosexual male who had done this many times before) a homosexual act on another man, namely Victor Ashe. Victor Ashe is the current Ambassador to the nation of Poland who should also come out like former Governor McGreevey of New Jersey and admit to being a gay American. Other homo-erotic acts were also performed by then private citizen George Bush because I performed one of them on him personally. ... The President needs to come clean with the American people about his own past sexual behavior before he tries to besmirch the humanity of people in search of sincerely committing to the same bonds of matrimony he’s afforded. He violated his own vows of monogamy having a homosexual affair with a long time family friend of whom his wife had no knowledge. His hypocrisy seems to know no bounds.
1984 was back in Bush's booze and cocaine partying days, so it may have happened. Admittedly the source doesn't have that much credibility tho.
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Um, right. So the Bushes have a fight, and Laura checks into a hotel. Because the White House is so small that a couple that was arguing would find it impossible to avoid one another. And there are not any spare bedrooms where Laura can sleep. Whatever.
ETC: Sentence with a preposition that it ended in. ETC2: Subject-verb agreement issue caused by correcting preposition issue. This could go on all night...
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Anyone try to conjure up an image of this in your mind? Bush and Rice "doing it"? I tried but I couldn't....
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I doubt it's true, but if it were, I could certainly see the mainstream media looking the other way on it. So just because you haven't seen it written up in the New York Times doesn't mean it's false.
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quote:Originally posted by Ramblin' Dave, ramblin' again: I doubt it's true, but if it were, I could certainly see the mainstream media looking the other way on it. So just because you haven't seen it written up in the New York Times doesn't mean it's false.
Whay would they look away from such a huge scandalous story. Expecially wioth all teh bush bashing going on in the popular media allready?
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quote:Originally posted by diddy: Whay would they look away from such a huge scandalous story. Expecially wioth all teh bush bashing going on in the popular media allready?
The MSM has tradionally not reported on this sort of thing until and unless some scandal breaks..lawsuit filed, one party coming forward, investgation into corruption...
Private lives are private lives.
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Well, the mainstream media has had awfully little to say, lately, about a lot of topics I consider to be downright earth shattering, so, who knows...
I still don't find it plausable, but the thing is, the difference between this situation and the Clinton/Lewsinsky thing, is, that all three parties in this one would have a lot more at stake in keeping it quiet. Ms. Rice has a lot more to lose than did Ms. Lewinsky. None of these three would be wanting to blow the whistle, unlike Ms. Lewinsky.
Personally I don't see what's so brilliant about Condi, myself, her intellect seems rather ordinary to me *shrug*. (Which still puts her above her boss.) Still, I wish a man and a woman could work closely together without people always reading something into it.
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quote:Originally posted by snapdragonfly: Still, I wish a man and a woman could work closely together without people always reading something into it.
Aha! This is what's been bothering me about this story. The supposition that men and women can't be colleagues without sexual attraction.
I don't think it's true that Bush and Rice are having an affair, but it may be true that L.Bush is uncomfortable with their close relationship. (I still find it unlikely that she spent the night in a hotel after a fight, though.)
And, perhaps a nitpick, but: Lewinsky didn't reveal her relationship with Clinton to the press. She confided in what she thought was a friend. Her "friend" blew the whistle.
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quote:Originally posted by snapdragonfly: Still, I wish a man and a woman could work closely together without people always reading something into it.
Aha! This is what's been bothering me about this story. The supposition that men and women can't be colleagues without sexual attraction. . .
I didn't get that people always read something into a man's and a woman's working closely together, or that they can't be colleagues without sexual attraction from this discussion. I thought it was about some particular people (Or, should I say about some peculiar people?), and that the rumor got started because of the "my husband" gaffe. Even though that does sound strange, I still don't believe the rumor is true. Could it have been wishful thinking?
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quote:Originally posted by snapdragonfly: Still, I wish a man and a woman could work closely together without people always reading something into it.
Aha! This is what's been bothering me about this story. The supposition that men and women can't be colleagues without sexual attraction.
I don't think it's true that Bush and Rice are having an affair, but it may be true that L.Bush is uncomfortable with their close relationship. (I still find it unlikely that she spent the night in a hotel after a fight, though.)
And, perhaps a nitpick, but: Lewinsky didn't reveal her relationship with Clinton to the press. She confided in what she thought was a friend. Her "friend" blew the whistle.
Thanks for refreshing my memory. :-) Still, though, Condi is a in a different situatin than Lewinsky and I think she'd keep her lips more tightly buttoned. Perhaps especially after seeing what happened to Monica.
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quote:Originally posted by snapdragonfly: Still, I wish a man and a woman could work closely together without people always reading something into it.
Aha! This is what's been bothering me about this story. The supposition that men and women can't be colleagues without sexual attraction. . .
I didn't get that people always read something into a man's and a woman's working closely together, or that they can't be colleagues without sexual attraction from this discussion. I thought it was about some particular people (Or, should I say about some peculiar people?), and that the rumor got started because of the "my husband" gaffe. Even though that does sound strange, I still don't believe the rumor is true. Could it have been wishful thinking?
No, not from THIS discussion - but from just the population in general. I had a male co worker and we were good friends - his cousin is my best friend - but I was madly in love with my then fiance and was never attracted to him in any way, nor was he to me. Nevertheless there was an occaisional remark. It's just human nature and at least in this part of the country, people raise eyebrows for no cause at all, quite often.
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Who in the world is Wayne Madsen? I tried the link provided in the post, but it didn't work. I got a DNS error the first time I tried to open the page, and the second time it simply wouldn't open.
Nevertheless, how did Wayne get his information?
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quote:Originally posted by Sara at home: Anyone try to conjure up an image of this in your mind? Bush and Rice "doing it"? I tried but I couldn't....
When you've been forced to have images of John Major and Edwina Currie, nothing is impossible. In fact, most things are preferable.
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quote:Mosh said: When you've been forced to have images of John Major and Edwina Currie, nothing is impossible.
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quote:Originally posted by diddy: Whay would they look away from such a huge scandalous story. Expecially wioth all teh bush bashing going on in the popular media allready?
Why? I don't know. But they've always been remarkably hands-off with Bush's private life whereas anything Clinton might or might not have done was always fair game. You might also recall that when similar questions emerged about Bush's father when he was ambassador to China, the Bush family simply said "he did not have sexual relations with that woman" (no, of course not in those exact words) and the "liberal" media took their word for it.
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Ok, I'm a huge skeptic when it comes to soap opera stories (and a skeptic anyway, that's why I'm here).
*HOWEVER* I did hear Mark Crispin Miller, Greg Palast (say what you want about the man, he's pretty smart and gets his facts correct), and Jay Marvin (local radio hoast + columnist) discussing this issue.
It was also on the Randi Rhodes show, but that means squat.
However, since it has the attention of Mark Crispin Miller and Greg Palast....there may be an incling of truth. Don't know.
Damn my laptop for being severely outdated in bookmarks.
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