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Tarquin Farquart
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Not sure if I've put this in the right place but here goes...

The Commonwealth games has started recently and I'm a little puzzled as to why Mozambique is included. Isn't it a former Portuguese colony? How did it get involved in the Commonwealth.

And also, there are quite a few former British Colonies that aren't in the Commonwealth. How did who is in the Commonwealth get decided?

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The Commonwealth describes itself as an association of states that have experienced direct or indirect British rule or have been otherwise administratively linked to another Commonwealth country, with the exception of Mozambique, which was admitted in recognition of its contribution to the struggle against apartheid in South Africa.
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hudders
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It tends to be countries who have the Queen (HRH Elizabeth II) as the head of state who make up the Commonwealth members.
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Darn, and I thought this was going to be an Alan Dean Foster Humanx commonwealth discussion... [Smile]

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TheHoodedClaw
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quote:
Originally posted by hudders:
It tends to be countries who have the Queen (HRH Elizabeth II) as the head of state who make up the Commonwealth members.

Mostly they don't these days. But historically, yes.
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Linden
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quote:
Originally posted by TheHoodedClaw:
quote:
Originally posted by hudders:
It tends to be countries who have the Queen (HRH Elizabeth II) as the head of state who make up the Commonwealth members.

Mostly they don't these days. But historically, yes.
You're quite right. The majority of Commonwealth countries are republics, and some have their own monarchies; only 16 have her as head of state.

Wikipedia is useful here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

As the article says, several Commonwealth countries were never directly ruled as part of the British Empire, but were governed by other countries that were: examples include Papua New Guinea (formerly governed by Australia) and Namibia (formerly governed by South Africa). Only a small part of Cameroon was formerly British (the rest was French).

There are a number of benefits of being in the Commonwealth, especially for poorer countries. Although the admission of Mozamique is supposed not to set a precedent, it might in fact have done so if any other similarly-placed country wants to join.

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Andrew of Ware, England
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quote:
Originally posted by Linden:
You're quite right. The majority of Commonwealth countries are republics, and some have their own monarchies; only 16 have her as head of state.

With, I believe, 71 countries taking part in the Commonwealth Games that means a large majority do not have her as Head of State. She normally opens the games - did she do so this time?

I know she is in Singapore at the moment, but did she nip over to Melbourne?

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smartymarty66
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Yes, she came over, said hello, stayed for the opening and went- She's pretty active for a lady of her age.
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Echinodermata Q. Taft
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The commonwealth hasn't much meaning today,
All-about, turn-about, round-about, lee,
Except for the few who're still willing to play,
Like Australia, New Zealand and Canada:

...Well, that's about the lot, really.
And that doesn't include Montreal,
That doesn't include Montreal...


From Commonwealth Fair by Flanders & Swann, naturally.

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the Virgin Marrya
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Have you heard the furore about the NZ badminton team's name....See, not only do we have teh all blacks, we have tall blacks [basketball] black caps [cricket], black sox [softball] black sticks [hockey]

So it makes PERFECT sense that our badminton team call themselves...

...wait for it:

The Black Cocks

And we have T-shirts!!

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Squishy0405
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This quote is PRICELESS

"Everyone loves it - the fact they're black and they create quite a lot of attention, especially when there's quite a few of us together."

If the myth was true...OUCH [Eek!] [lol]

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the Virgin Marrya
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The headlines in the local papers are similarly priceless [Wink]

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Senior
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"That's one good thing about being a supporter, you get to don one of these great shirts and a hat," he said.
And remember, if you can't be an athletic participant, be an athletic supporter.

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hudders
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quote:
Originally posted by Linden:
quote:
Originally posted by TheHoodedClaw:
quote:
Originally posted by hudders:
It tends to be countries who have the Queen (HRH Elizabeth II) as the head of state who make up the Commonwealth members.

Mostly they don't these days. But historically, yes.
You're quite right. The majority of Commonwealth countries are republics, and some have their own monarchies; only 16 have her as head of state.

Wikipedia is useful here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

As the article says, several Commonwealth countries were never directly ruled as part of the British Empire, but were governed by other countries that were: examples include Papua New Guinea (formerly governed by Australia) and Namibia (formerly governed by South Africa). Only a small part of Cameroon was formerly British (the rest was French).

There are a number of benefits of being in the Commonwealth, especially for poorer countries. Although the admission of Mozamique is supposed not to set a precedent, it might in fact have done so if any other similarly-placed country wants to join.

OK, OK, Maybe I was confusing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Realm

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