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Midgard_Dragon
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Had this "fact" quoted at me with no cite or evidence. Was just curious if there is any shred of truth to it and if not where the rumor comes from?

ETA: Woops, thanks for moving this. I posted it then though "Wait, shouldn't that go in the UL section?" Sorry, I so rarely get to make a post that actually belongs in this section that I forgot it existed. [Razz]

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I have several tatts and have not suffered any ill effects. I have several tatts and have not suffered any ill effects. I have several tatts and have not suffered any ill effects. I have several tatts and have not suffered any ill effects.


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Well I think it depends on the person, the inks being used, the sterility of the instruments, etc. People can be allergic to the inks and/or can develop an infection which can become systemic which is sometimes called "blood poisoning."

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Or they can give you Hepatitis B or C if the needle's not sterilized, because they're spread by contact with infected blood. They also can be spread through sex, intravenous drug use, and blood transfusions.
How can something be "bad for your blood"? Blood isn't an organ.

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This might have stemmed from the fact that people who have had a tattoo are not allowed to donate blood within a year of the tattoo. The implication that if you aren't allowed to donate your blood, it has somehow been made "bad" by the tattoo. When in fact the reason you can't donate is because of the risk of disease transmission (especially hepatitis transmission).
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It also might be due to the fact that a lot of tatoo ink can be lead based. That's the reason why many doctors are nervous about giving women with so called "tramp stamps" epidurals. Some of them are too afraid that the ink will leak and cause problems. Then again, some doctors don't worry about it at all.

As for a cite on this, all this is according to my anatomy professor.

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Tattoos and epidurals have been discussed here about a zillion times. And, you can't make a serious point *and* use the term "tramp stamp" in the same post. :Cringe:

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quote:
Originally posted by Ana Ng:
And, you can't make a serious point *and* use the term "tramp stamp" in the same post.

Hey, I'm pretty sure "tramp stamp" is a medically accepted definition.

Seriously though, why not? Everyone knows what the phrase is referring to. Although "lower back tattoo" probably works just as well.

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My brother went into anaphylactic shock after he got his first (and last!) tattoo, he was rushed to the ER when he started swelling badly. A cousin who was there said he was swollen up like the Michelin Man.

But that doesn't have anything to do with "bad for the blood" though.

He calls it his four thousand dollar tattoo.

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quote:
Originally posted by El Camino:
Seriously though, why not? Everyone knows what the phrase is referring to. Although "lower back tattoo" probably works just as well.

Firstly, because it's disrespectful in general... but mainly because the puerility of the descriptive term would make me doubt the veracity of the claim if I didn't already know it to be false.

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quote:
Originally posted by El Camino:
quote:
Originally posted by Ana Ng:
And, you can't make a serious point *and* use the term "tramp stamp" in the same post.

Hey, I'm pretty sure "tramp stamp" is a medically accepted definition.

Seriously though, why not? Everyone knows what the phrase is referring to. Although "lower back tattoo" probably works just as well.

I didn't until 'lower back tattoo' was mentioned. Is it an American term?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Pikey Snow Queen:
quote:
Originally posted by El Camino:
quote:
Originally posted by Ana Ng:
And, you can't make a serious point *and* use the term "tramp stamp" in the same post.

Hey, I'm pretty sure "tramp stamp" is a medically accepted definition.

Seriously though, why not? Everyone knows what the phrase is referring to. Although "lower back tattoo" probably works just as well.

I didn't until 'lower back tattoo' was mentioned. Is it an American term?
It's a derogatory term used by some Americans. I doubt that it is generally known much less used by all members of the medical community. I've also heard the term 'whore tag' which is even more derogatory.

Regardless, I agree with Ana, using such a term doesn't exactly bolster one's point.

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I agree with the assessment that the use of "tramp stamp" doesn't help me to believe any points made by said poster.

As for the possibilities caused by unclean needles and lack of proper sterilization, yeah, I was well aware of those. It was the idea that a tattoo from a sterile environment using a sterile needle and taking all the appropriate safety measures could somehow be "bad for the blood."

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quote:
Originally posted by Sabrina_Fairchild:
It also might be due to the fact that a lot of tatoo ink can be lead based. That's the reason why many doctors are nervous about giving women with so called "tramp stamps" epidurals. Some of them are too afraid that the ink will leak and cause problems. Then again, some doctors don't worry about it at all.

As for a cite on this, all this is according to my anatomy professor.

Tattoo ink is not lead based. Some colors may contain the heavy metal cadmium, and some green mixtures contain lead, but it's a gross overstatement to say that tattoo ink is all lead based. I got my information from BME .

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quote:
Originally posted by Ana Ng:
quote:
Originally posted by El Camino:
Seriously though, why not? Everyone knows what the phrase is referring to. Although "lower back tattoo" probably works just as well.

Firstly, because it's disrespectful in general... but mainly because the puerility of the descriptive term would make me doubt the veracity of the claim if I didn't already know it to be false.
I mean, come on. Everyone knows the polite term for such tattoos is "ass antlers".

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This is slightly off topic, but are there any risks to non permanent tattoos--i.e., those done with henna? When I googled, I found a few pages on higher risks of dermatitis...is there any truth to the matter?

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Re: tattoos and epidurals. I did ask about that in my labor class, and the instructor said that the latest information suggested that one shouldn't get an epidural if there was a back tattoo within 60 days. Which goes into the thread posted above--it's not generally a good idea to get inked or pierced during pregnancy.

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I have three tatts, and my blood is JUST FINE! It's the same green as everyone else's!

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I think what can happen is homemade or prison tattoos can cause insane amounts of pain under an MRI. I saw it on House, can anyone verify it?

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Spooky, I believe that's addressed in the thread Ana linked as well. If I recall correctly, tattoos done with pigments containing iron or other metals can cause inflammation during an MRI. So it depends more on where the ink came from than where the tattoo was done. Prison and homemade tattoos are more likely to have non-standard pigments, such as ball point pen ink or carbon from burning something.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spooky Cactus:
I think what can happen is homemade or prison tattoos can cause insane amounts of pain under an MRI. I saw it on House, can anyone verify it?

Mythbusters did a segment on it during season 2. The tv.com page about it is here . But they didn't use homemade tattoos, just forced one of their poor "mythbusters", Scottie, to get an MRI. Her professionally-done tattoos did not react with the MRI. IIRC, they also mixed up some home-made inks. The one with high amounts of iron did react strongly but only in the container. When they tattooed a slab of pork and MRI'd it, they got no reaction.

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quote:
Originally posted by Artemis:
This is slightly off topic, but are there any risks to non permanent tattoos--i.e., those done with henna? When I googled, I found a few pages on higher risks of dermatitis...is there any truth to the matter?

Some rather unscrupulous places put black dye in the henna to make "black henna". This can cause some pretty serious reactions and I have seen a picture of a girl with the design burned onto her skin after having one done.


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Allergic reactions to natural henna are rare. The onset of a reaction to natural henna occurs within a few hours, symptoms being itching, shortness of breath, and/or tightness in the chest. Some people have an allergic reaction to an essential oil used to "terp" the mix, and some are allergic to lemon juice often used to mix henna.
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"Black henna" is the name given to an artificial product created by the addition of paraphenylenediamine (PPD) to natural henna to create a black stain. PPD is traditionally used in black hair dye but is a sensitizer, which means that it is something that the body is naturally allergic to or can become allergic to. Black henna can cause severe reactions that can take from 515 days to appear, which can cause permanent scarring and may even be life threatening. Reactions to black henna frequently necessitate immediate medical attention from a doctor or allergist.
ETA: Here are a couple of nasty pictures to prove my point about black henna.

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Picture 2

Picture 3

The results can be worse, this girl had a very nasty experience.

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Thanks, Pikey. Scary. How do you know if the place is unscrupulous? I mean...if you see that they're using black dye, is that enough to know that you should go elswhere? Is it enough to ask?

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What I've heard is that you should avoid black henna in general. I don't know if there is a way to make safe black henna, but I figure it easy to just not take the risk.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ana Ng:
Tattoos and epidurals have been discussed here about a zillion times. And, you can't make a serious point *and* use the term "tramp stamp" in the same post. :Cringe:

Okay, I see your point. I should have probably avoided that particular term, but I had a blonde moment at the time.

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I have a tattoo AND I recently had an MRI in the general area and had NO problems at all.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fun with a 9mm:
I have a tattoo AND I recently had an MRI in the general area and had NO problems at all.

The question was specifically about homemade or prison-made tattoos.

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quote:
Originally posted by Artemis:
Thanks, Pikey. Scary. How do you know if the place is unscrupulous? I mean...if you see that they're using black dye, is that enough to know that you should go elswhere? Is it enough to ask?

Definitely ask what they are using. Personally I wouldn't go anywhere that uses black henna. There are a lot of places that are legit and wouldn't dream of using the stuff, I imagine they would me more than happy to show you what ingredients they use.

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