quote:Originally posted by Jason thread DIV 0: According to NA27, C (5th century), P115 (3rd or 4th), and some MSs of Irenaeus have 616.
Most MSs have 666. One MS has 665.
I wonder which MSs they're talking about in the article...
p115 is the only new ms discovery for revelation in the last few years, so I don't see what other ms the article could be referring to, but it really isn't that new, however, being published in 1999 I believe.
In any case, Jason, I think you could appreciate this, I actually had the pleasure of meeting Barbara Aland this weekend! And, to my pleasant shock, she was not the gloomy and large lumbering woman you would expect for such a venerable authority figure, but is a real fox! And I just don't mean "foxy for a woman that old" I mean "what the nfbsk is in the water over in germany!?!"
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We will now look at some other titles pertaining to the Pope using the alpha-numerics of three different languages. In Hebrew, the word ROMIITH (Roman Kingdom) = 666. The word ROMITI (Roman Man) = 666. In Greek, I PROTERA (First of Two) = 666. LATEINOS (The Latin speaking man) = 666. HE LATINE BASILEIA (The Latin Kingdom) = 666. ITALIKA EKKLESIA (Italian Church) = 666. In the Latin language, using Roman numerals we have the following: IOANES PAVLVS SECVNDO (John Paul II) = 666. FILII VICARIVS DEI (Son substitute of God) = 666. DVX CLERI (Captain of the Clergy) = 666. LVDOVICVS (Vicar of the Court) = 666. SANCTA LVX DEI (Holy Light of God) = 666. REX LATINVS SACERDOS (King of the Roman Priests) = 666.
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I just want to say that I've come to actually look forward to reading the lasttrumpetministries newsletter every month. It tops the onion by a country mile.!
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Heavy D, you're famous! (see Bonnie's post on the previous page)
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I have this pathetic picture of Satan sitting all alone on his birthday, dejectedly thinking, "Not a single card again this year."
While fifty houses down the street, an elderly couple is asking, "Why the hell do all these cards come on the same day every freakin' year?"
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quote:Originally posted by hoitoider: This guy always has good ones. If you use the 'true' spelling of the new pope's original name: "When we apply the alpha-numeric code of A=6, B=12, C=18 and so on, we find that the name Ratsinger adds up as follows: R=108, A=6, T=120, S=114, I=54, N=84, G=42, E=30, R=108 for a total of 666."
He might have good ones, but should have used the "true" spelling as proclaimed: It is "RatZinger" not "Ratsinger"
Could anyone enlighten me, if this lasttrumpetministries site is "real" or a hoax site?
Gavida
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quote:Originally posted by hoitoider: Wow, this guy outdid himself this time:
(snip) In Greek, I PROTERA (First of Two) = 666. (snip)
So, that's why First of Stew changed his screen name!
Don "got you!" Enrico
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quote:Originally posted by Brad from Georgia: I have this pathetic picture of Satan sitting all alone on his birthday, dejectedly thinking, "Not a single card again this year."
While fifty houses down the street, an elderly couple is asking, "Why the hell do all these cards come on the same day every freakin' year?"
oh.... YOMANK!!!!.... my gut's busted!
Sia...
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quote:Originally posted by Ms_Anthropy: That reminds me of my theory about Bill Gates being the antichrist:
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So: Use a Mac. Defeat the Anti-Christ!
(Of course, I don't really believe that. I am sure the real anti-christ will have much better hair.) [/QB]
Hmmmn, so WHY did the first Apple sell for the princely sum of: $666.66 USD ?
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Oh, the Wiki has much to say! viagra having a molecular weight of 666 g/mol would have to make it the little blue pill of the beast, surely?!
And why has no-one pointed out that the garda in Dublin all have the 666 area code??!! Tinfoil hat time!
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quote:Originally posted by Heavy B: Lesser Known Numbers of the Beast:
664 Neighbor of the Beast 666DD Bra Size of the Beast 696969 Favorite Sexual Position of the Beast 666F Oven Temperature for Roast Beast 666 GB Harddrive Space of the Beast .666 Decimal Point of the Beast
Don't forget ... 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000666 Homeopathic medicine for the beast.
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quote:Originally posted by Heavy B: Lesser Known Numbers of the Beast:
664 Neighbor of the Beast 666DD Bra Size of the Beast 696969 Favorite Sexual Position of the Beast 666F Oven Temperature for Roast Beast 666 GB Harddrive Space of the Beast .666 Decimal Point of the Beast
Don't forget ... 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000666 Homeopathic medicine for the beast.
quote:Originally posted by Heavy B: Lesser Known Numbers of the Beast:
664 Neighbor of the Beast 666DD Bra Size of the Beast 696969 Favorite Sexual Position of the Beast 666F Oven Temperature for Roast Beast 666 GB Harddrive Space of the Beast .666 Decimal Point of the Beast
Don't forget ... 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000666 Homeopathic medicine for the beast.
665 9/10 Gas Price of the Beast
Earned-Run Average of the Beast: 6.66
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According to Heinlein, it's (6^6)^6...The number of alternate dimensions!
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Growing up in west Michigan, my area code was 616....I always suspected the antichrist was a lawyer, but not me.
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I went to all that effort in high school to get locker 666 just to freak out the fundies, and you tell me I PICKED THE WRONG LOCKER?!?!? Man, that is about the ONLY thing I really worked on in high school. And I thought I actualy did something right...
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I rouse this thread from its long slumber to say....
LOOK UPON MY POST COUNT!
Mwah-hah-hah *cough! choke!*
Ahem. Okay, that's enough, you can move along now.
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The squirrels already knew.....
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66.6 = Batting average of the Beast (how do we know the Beast doesn't play cricket?)
6.66 mm = the calibre of the Beast's hunting rifle.
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Hm, ever since I've read the bible it always had footnotes that mention 616. I remember thinking it was funny that so much was made of 666 when it's not clear what the number is or what exactly it means anyway.
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Actually, for a long time, I think church authorities were pretty much in agreement that 666 DID stand for Nero-- and you don't need fractured Hebrew to do it-- Greek has its own form of gematria. Yes, Nero was Roman, but Revelation was written in Greek. I believe the correspondence with Nero's name was the reason that 666 was preferred over 616.
However, a few hundred years after Revelation was written, people started to get a little embarrassed over the fact that while all its "predictions" (actually made after the fact) had come to pass, Jesus still hadn't returned. So people started looking for new interpretations of the events in Revelation.
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According to Oliver Cromwell c: 1648, King Charles 1 of England was the AntiChrist. When Charles' son Charles II was crowned king of England in 1660 (oooooh, SO close!), it was commonly noised about that CROMWELL had been the AntiChrist all along.
Myself, I find it just a tad disturbing that Arial Sharon, former Prime Minister of Israel and currently in a coma, and whose name is אֲרִיאֵל שָׁרוֹן in Hebrew, adds up nicely to 666 if you substitute Ayin for the second Aleph in his first name. If Sharon recovers from his coma, I'm digging this microchip out of my forehead!
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I have the sneaking suspicion that the Antichrist will be named Susej.
Brad "pronounced 'sausage,' I suppose" from Georgia
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If God had a brother would he be the Unclechrist...?
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