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Angel With Wax Wings
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My mom and I were watching TV last night and Jamie Lee Cutris came on and I asked her if she had ever heard the rumor that Jamie was a hermaphrodite at birth. My mom maintains that it's absolutely true. She says that a friend of hers is friends with Jamie's doctor or something and he performed the sex change/sex surgery on Jamie Lee when she was younger. I was just wondering how questionable this information is, because as a doctor wouldn't he not be able to tell anyone about Jamie Lee? Anyway my mom is convinced that it's true.

~Monica

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If your mother believes what a friend of a friend of the doctor told her, I doubt there is much you can do to convice her otherwise.

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What GenYus said, but she looks all girl to me.

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Thanks Videoguy but I have seen that...I just don't know if I should doubt it or not when my mom says she has a reliable source.

~Monica

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My pat response to people who asserted that the Richard Gere/gerbil rumor was true (because they knew someone who was "there") was to muse that Cedars-Sinai must have the best-staffed medical facility in the world, because apparently their emergency room had hundreds of doctors and several thousand nurses on duty the evening that Richard Gere showed up.

Likewise, either Jamie Lee Curtis has been operated on by a couple of hundred doctors, or one surgeon has made a career out of blabbing about the private details of one of his high-profile patients (with any recriminations).

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Originally posted by Angel With Wax Wings:
Thanks Videoguy but I have seen that...I just don't know if I should doubt it or not when my mom says she has a reliable source.

~Monica

Says being the operative word. She says she knows a guy who knows a guy who knows the doctor. That's not just FOAF it's FOAFOAF. Also, if the guy were telling the truth more people than your mom would have heard about it (heard about it for real, not just UL style) and the doctor probably would have been sued. I'm not saying your mom is a liar, but perhaps she's friends with one.

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Originally posted by Angel With Wax Wings:
Thanks Videoguy but I have seen that...I just don't know if I should doubt it or not when my mom says she has a reliable source.

~Monica

Actually, your mom says her friend has a reliable source. And I bet if you asked your mom's friend, it would turn out that the doctor was actually a friend of your mom's friend's friend.

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Originally posted by Angel With Wax Wings:
Thanks Videoguy but I have seen that...I just don't know if I should doubt it or not when my mom says she has a reliable source.

~Monica

If a Snopes.com ULRpage can not make you doubt your mother's source, I'm not sure we lot can help you find the answer you are looking for.

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She says that a friend of hers is friends with Jamie's doctor or something and he performed the sex change/sex surgery on Jamie Lee when she was younger. I was just wondering how questionable this information is, because as a doctor wouldn't he not be able to tell anyone about Jamie Lee?
Yes. As snopes and others have pointed out, this is ethically indefensible both personally and professionally. Also, more to the point, why's he wasting time blabbing to random friends when he could be retiring on the proceeds of a National Enquirer exclusive?

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There was an interesting interview with Tony Curtis in The Times a few months ago, in which he talks about Jamie Lee (see about 3/4 of the way down). For what it's worth (he could be talking about anything), he mentions "a secret in Jamie that I can’t disclose” which leads to a meeting between the interviewer and a lawyer regarding "off the record" comments.

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You know, even if it were true it doesn't change the fact that Jamie Lee Curtis is gorgeous, talented and seems like a geniunely nice and fun person. So frankly I don't care about the once or present state of her genitalia

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If someone just sets it up, I'll be happy to volonteer to do a detailed investigation of her genital status. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.

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Originally posted by Troberg:
If someone just sets it up, I'll be happy to volonteer to do a detailed investigation of her genital status. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.

Maybe you could convince her to be "trendy" like Britney, Paris, Lindsey, etc. and wear a short miniskirt with no underwear.

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Originally posted by asnakeny:
Maybe you could convince her to be "trendy" like Britney, Paris, Lindsey, etc. and wear a short miniskirt with no underwear.

Which would hardly be a detailed inspection. It's not easy to tell the difference between naturally developed genitals and those that are the result of vaginoplasty. You really would require a very detailed examination by a professional.

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I'm sure her husband, Christopher Guest, has already examined that area, so perhaps you should ask him. As if it really mattered.
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I don't know if it's true, but my genetics/developmental anatomy professor keeps mentioning that about Jamie Lee Curtis in every class I've had with him. He mentions it as fact (and also keeps mentioning that he likes her a lot.) No clue what his sources are though.

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She's extremely attractive, but I always thought that UL was made more believable by the fact that Jamie Lee has rather mannish features. Not that that proves a darn thing. My own features are a bit masculine, and as far as I know I've been female my entire life.
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Jamie Lee has mannish features? She's far more feminine-looking than I ever will be.

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No offense intended Cervus, but if Jamie Lee Curtis is more feminine-looking than you ever will be, then you must resemble Andre the Giant.

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Prefacing something with "No offense" doesn't actually make it less offensive. It usually only indicates that you know it's insulting/offensive/rude but are going to say it anyhow.

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I don't think either Cervus or Jaime Lee Curtis have mannish features.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jenn:
Prefacing something with "No offense" doesn't actually make it less offensive. It usually only indicates that you know it's insulting/offensive/rude but are going to say it anyhow.

The way I intend it, and the way I hope people would take it, is "I in no way intend for this to be offensive, but there is a chance you might take it that way. If that is the case, I really wish you wouldn't, but I wanted to make an extreme example of why X really is Y to me."

Replace X with Jamie Lee and Y with manly.

I have never seen a picture of Cervus, but I'm sure she makes Jamie Lee look like a bog monster.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nion:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenn:
Prefacing something with "No offense" doesn't actually make it less offensive. It usually only indicates that you know it's insulting/offensive/rude but are going to say it anyhow.

The way I intend it, and the way I hope people would take it, is "I in no way intend for this to be offensive, but there is a chance you might take it that way. If that is the case, I really wish you wouldn't, but I wanted to make an extreme example of why X really is Y to me."

Replace X with Jamie Lee and Y with manly.

If you truly don't wish to offend Cervus, why use her name to make your point about Jamie Lee? Why not compare Jamie Lee to someone else? Why not use the Andre the Giant comparison and leave Cervus out of it?

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Because Cervus stated "Jamie Lee has mannish features? She's far more feminine-looking than I ever will be."

This led me to the following thought: If someone was far more mannish-looking than Jamie Lee Curtis, then surely they'd look like Andre the Giant."

I apologize if I offended anyone. I will say it would be nice if everyone would stop thinking the worst of everyone, and/or taking offense at something at the drop of a hat. *sigh*

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quote:
Originally posted by Nion:
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will say it would be nice if everyone would stop thinking the worst of everyone, and/or taking offense at something at the drop of a hat. *sigh*

No offense, but that's the most self-serving, insincere apology I've ever seen. You've managed to insult one my favorite snopesters, one of my favorite actresses and my all-time favorite wrestler in one post. You then lecture us on how we should behave and show mock surprise when many of us are offended. And to top it off, you use the miserable, self-pitying *sigh* at the end to show your world-weariness of all the rest of the thin-skinned world.

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I was vaguely offended that you apparently think that Jamie Lee is so mannish as to resemble a bog monster. I always found her quite lovely, and to be honest I think she and my mother look a bit alike. (Also, based on what I've seen of Jamie Lee in interviews and casual stuff, she reminds me quite a bit of my mother in personality, too.)

Not that me being vaguely offended over that was really your fault. It was more that I took it as a completely illogical oblique slight against my mother.

I do think it's rather rude to compare her to a bog monster, though.

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I'm not offended, but I think it's rather stupid to compare Jamie Lee Curtis to a "bog monster" or to presume I must look like Andre the Giant when you admit you've never seen a picture of me. I think Nion's insulted Jamie Lee more than he's insulted me.

Anyway:

I don't think Jamie Lee Curtis has mannish features and I've always been surprised when people use this claim to back their assertion of her sex change. I consider her features more feminine than my own. She has a small head, narrow nose, and tapered chin. I have a large head, large nose, and square chin. Perhaps it's the short hair that makes people think she has masculine features, but I was thinking more along the lines of her facial structure. It appears quite feminine to me, but there's lots of XX females who have "masculine" facial features, and vice verse. I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder, though. It still has no bearing on someone's biological genetalia.

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quote:
Originally posted by Angel With Wax Wings:
My mom and I were watching TV last night and Jamie Lee Cutris came on and I asked her if she had ever heard the rumor that Jamie was a hermaphrodite at birth. My mom maintains that it's absolutely true. She says that a friend of hers is friends with Jamie's doctor or something and he performed the sex change/sex surgery on Jamie Lee when she was younger. I was just wondering how questionable this information is, because as a doctor wouldn't he not be able to tell anyone about Jamie Lee? Anyway my mom is convinced that it's true.

~Monica

I once had a blind date with a nurse from New Brunswick, NJ. She claimed that the doctor she worked with knew the doctor who performed the sex change operation on Miss Curtis. This was back in 1995(when I first heard this UL). For a fleeting moment I believed it because I always thought Jamie Lee Curtis had manish features. The rational part of me knew it was an UL.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nion:
Because Cervus stated "Jamie Lee has mannish features? She's far more feminine-looking than I ever will be."

This led me to the following thought: If someone was far more mannish-looking than Jamie Lee Curtis, then surely they'd look like Andre the Giant."

But you didn't just think it, or even blurt it out in conversation: you typed it and posted it to a message board. You are in no way compelled to express every thought you have; if you choose to do so, accept the consequences.

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I apologize if I offended anyone. I will say it would be nice if everyone would stop thinking the worst of everyone, and/or taking offense at something at the drop of a hat. *sigh*
It would also be nice if people would accept the consequences of their thoughtless posting instead of acting as if they're being persecuted. *sigh*

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quote:
Originally posted by Nion:
If someone was far more mannish-looking than Jamie Lee Curtis, then surely they'd look like Andre the Giant."

This is one of the most absurd statement I've seen on snopes in quite a while. If you really believe that, you're a flipping moron with no sense of beauty.

Jamie Lee Curtis is a babe.

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Ummmmm......this whole argument offends me? Also, I hope the use of the "question mark" does not offend anyone.
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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mahone:
quote:
Originally posted by Nion:
If someone was far more mannish-looking than Jamie Lee Curtis, then surely they'd look like Andre the Giant."

This is one of the most absurd statement I've seen on snopes in quite a while. If you really believe that, you're a flipping moron with no sense of beauty.

Jamie Lee Curtis is a babe.

Pogue

I think you are a flipping moron with no sense of beauty for thinking Jamie Lee Curtis is a babe! Geesh

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Can't a woman be a babe and still have features that may have some mannish components? Mannishness doesn't preclude beauty.

I have a female friend who's 6'2" and, I feel, strikingly beautiful. Yet when Halloween comes, sometimes people think she is a man in drag walking the streets of Waikiki. She is offended but, in a way, I can see where they get that in her facial features.

Drag queens in full make-up can look goregeous but when you look carefully, you can see the mannishness too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mahone:
quote:
Originally posted by Nion:
If someone was far more mannish-looking than Jamie Lee Curtis, then surely they'd look like Andre the Giant."

This is one of the most absurd statement I've seen on snopes in quite a while. If you really believe that, you're a flipping moron with no sense of beauty.

Jamie Lee Curtis is a babe.

Pogue

So, you're allowed to think she's a babe, but if someone doesn't think that, then they're a moron? [Confused]

I think she's a bit mannish, too. And I have to admit that when I read Cervus' comment, I did think "oh, don't put yourself down". I can see what (sorry, i don't have a name here because half the page hasn't loaded, but) the person-who-said-about Andre the Giant meant. If you think someone is mannish and someone else says the mannish person is more feminine than them, it does give the impression that they think of themselves as unattractive. Even if they don't.
Confusing much?

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