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Vietnam court upholds Garry Glitter's child molestation sentence

An appeals court has upheld the child molestation conviction and three-year prison sentence for former British glam rocker Gary Glitter.

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0615Glitter-ON.html

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Regarding adding extra lyrics to songs...There's a bar in Lawrence that everybody adds the line, "It's the song, it's the same damn song" after "Searching for my lost shaker of salt" in the infamous M song by Jimmy Buffet. I have no idea what that's about or even if I heard it correctly.

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quote:
Originally posted by glisp42:
Regarding adding extra lyrics to songs...There's a bar in Lawrence that everybody adds the line, "It's the song, it's the same damn song" after "Searching for my lost shaker of salt" in the infamous M song by Jimmy Buffet. I have no idea what that's about or even if I heard it correctly.

I've heard "salt, salt, where's the ****in' salt" and "Salt, salt, where's the damn salt" and sometimes just "salt, salt, salt." I think they're all kind of lame.

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My favorite call-and-response is "Family Tradition" by Hank Williams, Jr. Play it on the jukebox and you'll get a whole crowd singing along.

"Hank, why do you drink?"
TO GET DRUNK!
"Hank, why do you roll smokes?"
TO GET STONED/HIGH! (depends on the crowd)
"Hank, why must you live out the songs that you wrote?"
TO GET FU*KED/LAID!

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Ah, this reminds me of a hockey game at Ohio Univ. I went to with my sister...they'd play the HEY! song and after each HEY the OU fans would yell "You suck!" (Da na na na na, HEY! You suck!) Quite catchy [Smile] and then "We're gonna beat the sh*t outta you!!" to the little drum fill-in part. At 16 I was highly amused by this...oh wait I still am [Smile]

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When I was in high school, our marching band never had any issues with playing the Hey Song, although we were forced to scrap our plans to play the Jaws theme during a particularly heavy shark-attack time. What still amuses me to this day, though, is the fact that we got chewed out by the football coach for playing the Hallelujah Chorus when our team (finally) scored. [Big Grin] Apparently it was "disrespectful" to the team or something...

~Cab "The way they were PLAYING was disrespectful to the team!" cere

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quote:
Originally posted by Chocklit:
This is a problem in ballet-jazz as well. Do you let your 10-year old perform to a song with inappropriate lyrics? After I listened closely to Jewel's "Intuition", I made the dance teacher cut out this verse:

You got something that you wantin' me to sell
Sell your sin
Just cash in
You got something that you wantin' me to tell
You'll love me
Wait and see

If you want me
Don't play games
I promise
It won't be in vain

I don't know, it's not that bad. It sounds like it's talking about prostitution, but if even I'm not clear on it, will the 10 year olds be?

Just to give a point of reference, I would NOT be happy if a dance teacher picked "In Da Club" or "My Humps" for the kids to dance to.

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My humps?, That song is a master piece of a song. [fish] A great kid friendly song

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Then there's the modified, call-and-response chorus to The MTA Song:

And did he ever return?
No, he never returned!
And his fate is still unlearned
BullNFBSK!

I heard that one in several different bars in DC, and I've had friends in Boston tell me they do it there too. When I asked my parents if that was how it was done back in the '60s, they were more than a little bit disgusted. (I took that as a no!)

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quote:
Originally posted by Zabia:
So that everyone can feel better, this bothered me too until I did some research and Gary Glitter sold all of the rights to his songs just before his first arrest. So rock yourself out, with any version you want, only the record company is making money.

Regardless of this, the NFL has asked stadiums to quit playing the song at their games:

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As news of Glitter's failed appeal spread, in the United States, the National Football League moved to have teams stop playing the singer's greatest hit, the stadium-friendly anthem "Rock and Roll Part 2," in the upcoming season.

"Most of the teams understand the reasons, and ultimately, it's their decision, but we encourage them not to play it," NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy told E! Online. "In terms of the music that's played, pre-game or halftime, that's controlled by the teams, not the NFL."



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Dogwater
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Very un-Snopes-like (no science or citations behind it) I know, but is it acceptable to simply say that the song now feels "icky" to me? It would feel especially innapropriate to play it at a kids' game.

I suppose as a back-up to those feelings, I'd have to say that it butts-up against the paternal instinct to protect my kids from harm.


Re Chocklit's post, there was a suburban school out my way (I've long forgotten the specifics) that had a cherrleader/dance troupe performing to "Barbie Girl" by Aqua until it was pointed out how age-inappropriate the song is (besides being a piece of Bull-NFBSK drivel that NO ONE should be exposed to [Smile] ).

By the way, all this from a guy who took his 10 yo to a Rob Zombie concert -- I moved him off to the side so that he couldn't see the giant burlesque show that was playing on the on-stage screen as a backdrop to the show...But I am proud that he knows all the words to Dragula.

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How could it harm your kids? I am really baffled about this one. Obviously, since no one figured it out until he was arrested, the song does not scream "a pedophile wrote me". Would you be similarly uneasy about your kids learning about any of the Greek Philosophers?

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quote:
Originally posted by geminilee:
How could it harm your kids? I am really baffled about this one. Obviously, since no one figured it out until he was arrested, the song does not scream "a pedophile wrote me". Would you be similarly uneasy about your kids learning about any of the Greek Philosophers?

Fair enough, but I did raise the caveat that my feelings are decidedly non-scientific...Greek philosophers and their, uh, philosophies, were oh-so-long-ago. Gary Glitter is a contemporary occurance. Maybe it could be described as more 'real'?

Of course the song couldn't harm my kids. The fact is that I feel that our parenting is strong enough that even the most vile(re 'vile', well YMMV as to what is and isn't vile) of lyrics (NOT that R&R pt 2 has any)would be written off by the shorties as "bad thoughts that I don't agree with"...

Again, though, I'll beg your indulgence in letting me go along with "it just feels icky".

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quote:
Originally posted by geminilee:
Obviously, since no one figured it out until he was arrested, the song does not scream "a pedophile wrote me".

I can remember him from the '70s and it was already obvious then.

Do you wanna touch me? (oh yeah!)

"Every growing boy needs a little toy... "

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quote:
Originally posted by Barbara R.:
...Also, there was:

"Jingle bells, shot gun shells,
Santa Claus is dead.
Someone took my bee-bee gun
And shot him in the head!"

Pretty morbid, wouldn't you say?

Barbara R.

Remind you of A Christmas Story?

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quote:
Originally posted by DawnStorm:
quote:
Originally posted by I Am 6-Ironsman:
[ U. Maryland's band started playing it

Not anymore, at least not at Duke games where I've read the audience was singing 'na na na na na NFBSK YOU!'
They may not play it anymore. My story took place in December 1996 at the late (not-so-great) US Air Arena in Landover, MD.
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When my niece was 8 or so, her cheerleading routines were done to a mix of songs, including "If you wanna be my lover" or whatever that piece of drivel was called by the Spice Girls. When I said to my sister in law, who was totally clueless about modern music, that it really wasn't appropriate, she said "The coach picked it, so I'm sure it's fine." Of course, they have these pre-teen girls put on make-up and do up their hair for these competitions, so why not sing suggestive songs too?

Back on topic, I think it's stupid to ban a song with 4 words, none of which are suggestive, because it was written by a pedophile. Most of the world knows that Michael Jackson is a pedophile (yeah, not a convicted criminal, but still), but I still hear his songs played at public events and used as inspirational stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by emperor_genghis_khan:
My humps?, That song is a master piece of a song. [fish] A great kid friendly song

Bit of a hijack, but I can't stand "My humps" because of the part where he says "Watcha gonna do with all that breast, all that breast down in that shirt?"

I always want to reply, "My breasts? I shall use them to nurse my offspring, for I, sir, am a mammal."

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quote:
Originally posted by Ramblin' Dave, ramblin' again:
Then there's the modified, call-and-response chorus to The MTA Song:

And did he ever return?
No, he never returned!
And his fate is still unlearned
BullNFBSK!

I heard that one in several different bars in DC, and I've had friends in Boston tell me they do it there too. When I asked my parents if that was how it was done back in the '60s, they were more than a little bit disgusted. (I took that as a no!)

They play the Kingston Trio in bars in Boston? Kewlies!

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