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Comment: What's up with the talk of Tom Cruise planning to nurse his baby?!?!? A search of "Tom Cruise" on your site turned up nothing about this.
"Rumor has it that father to be Tom Cruise has been frightening other expectant fathers with his tales of male nursing. Tom has been reportedly telling others that they can and should take part in nursing their babies. He also shared how he looks forward to doing so once his first child with fiancee Katie Holmes is born this coming spring."
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Well, maybe they consider hormones similar to vitamins? I don't know, but it would be interesting to watch Tom Cruise breastfeed. Especially if he did it while jumping on a couch and electrifying Oprah.
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I wonder if he'll spin the baby around like he did the bottles in Cocktail.
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I'm just wondering what will happen if Katie Holmes get a bad case of post-partum depression!
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I'm guessing he plans to do it without hormones, by pure willpower or somesuch.
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Oh, the mental pictures, THE MENTAL PICTURES!
I really didn't need to picture Tommy trying to breastfeed while jumping up and down on Oprah's couch....but I did.
Oh, just stop me now...
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quote: While my husband David had no interest in nursing our son, we both were intrigued with the idea. We had just had our first unassisted homebirth and were excited about applying our positive thinking techniques to other aspects of our lives. Although Raphael had written about milk production through nipple stimulation, perhaps, we thought, David could do it simply through suggestion. He began telling himself that he would lactate, and within a week, one of his breasts swelled up and milk began dripping out. When we excitedly showed my father (a physician) David's breast he said, "Obviously there's something physiologically wrong with David." The fact that David had willed himself to do this, did not impress him. We knew, however, that this was yet another example of the power of the mind.
Forgive me for being cynical but is such a thing possible? Even with hormones?
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I sort of thought that the male breast (for lack of a better word) didn't have the proper equipment internally. Milk ducts and such. I know some babies, male and female, lactate shortly after birth (called "witch's milk" by the superstitious), but it isn't really milk- its leftover mommy hormones.
My husband was involved in nursing our kids. Once in a while, he'd bring me the baby because I was too tired to get up after spending months waking up in the middle of the night. Bear in mind, he did so if he A. happened to be awake; B. if I asked him to, and C. if he was already walking in that direction.
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I read some of the articles on male nursing previously. It has happened, without hormones. In those cases, the men were allowing the babies to suckle at them continuously for hours at a time over the course of days. One case listed was a ship's officer at sea caring for a baby that had lost it's mother. Another more recent case was post-tsunami, where a man explained his wife had been swept away and he'd been letting the baby suckle him for comfort. In neither case did the man expect anything to come of it, only to comfort the child. However, men do have the necessary equipment and it seems constant stimulation sometimes kicks in a normally dormant ability.
It was also mentioned male goats may develop udders, and that there is a species of bat where the males routinely nurse babies.
It's pretty cool, even if it does bend our normal expectations.
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I clicked into this thread expecting to make a wise-crack. I figured is was intended in the spirit of "We are pregnant," or "We are planning to breastfeed." Little did I know...
It does bear thinking about though, that any milk coming from a male would perhaps have a different make-up. Would different hormones cause different development in a baby? I'm speaking from my vast experience with babies (I've never even held one!) so this may be a dumb question.
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Since Tom Cruise is such a NFBSK why doesn't he give birth to it as well???
Carry on.
Hans
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quote: Breast feeding babies may have a nostalgic background, particularly to a Freudian oriented medico, but real breast milk again is usually a poor ration. Modern mothers smoke and sometimes drink. Smoking makes the milk very musty. Anyway, a nervous modern mother just can't deliver the right ration. Maybe it's the pace of the times or the breed, but there are few modern Guernsey-type mothers. So even without drinking or smoking, one should forget breast feeding. ...
The foremost reason a baby doesn't do well is poor rations. And to remedy that, here is a formula one can use:
15 ounces of barley water 10 ounces of homogenized milk 3 ounces of corn syrup (As the Romans had honey, 2 ounces of honey may be used instead of corn syrup, if desired. Do not use lactose [a sugar found in milk, used in infant foods] as a substitute.) The amount of syrup should be varied - depending on the baby - some like it weak - some take it stronger.
Honey!! Honey for babies is a botulism risk. They also say homogenized milk ONLY, not pasteurized.
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quote: The prepared food used today is guaranteed to upset a baby. It is a powdered mess one is supposed to dissolve in water and feed to the baby.
If you ever tasted it, you would agree with the baby. It's terrible.
More than that, it is total carbohydrate and does not contain the protein necessary to make tissue and bone. It only makes fat. When you see one of these bloated, white, modern babies, know that it is being fed exactly on the doctor's orders: a diet of mixed milk powder, glucose and water, total carbohydrate.
I would think if modern formula was unable to build bones we'd know that by now!
How he came up with his special formula:
quote:I recalled all my dietary and endocrine studies that 1 studied in those places the reporters have now agreed I never attended.
Actually I recalled further than that. Roman troops marched on barley. Barley is the highest protein content cereal. And from a deep past I called up a formula.
So, apparently he recalled the formula from his days in ancient Rome.
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You know, I've always filed it away as a UL, but I have heard of guys that "sympathetically" lactated. But it was usually not much more than a few drops. ETA: Here's a claim that the father did it all with his mind. But most of what I Googled mentions hormones. As for the rest of what I've found by typing "men+lactation".....I need brain bleach.
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In the current issue of Scientific American Jan 06 the cover article was about how motherhood makes women smarter. Anyway, one of the things mentioned was how the hormones of a new father change. This included, I think, a rise in prolactin. Not nearly as high as mom's but enough to get him all ga ga about the baby. I could see how in some guys this might lead to lactation.
I read tons about induced lactation in preparation for my adoption (I'm sorry if I'm making everything about my baby, I didn't intend to be one of those mothers but this is kind of relevant.) He'd need to pump and there is a drug used for GI matters that has a side effect of producing milk in some people (including men). Domperidone works best but you're not supposed to be able to get it in the US. Reglan has the same effect. Neither is a hormone but depression is a side effect.
It will be just one more reason for me to not like Tom Cruise if he manages to induce lactation when I could not.
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What's so unusual? Lots of husbands nurse when their wives are lactating.... Oh! Nevermind! Posts: 4922 | From: Kyoto, Japan | Registered: Sep 2005
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quote:posted by Ms. K Oh, the mental pictures, THE MENTAL PICTURES!
I really didn't need to picture Tommy trying to breastfeed while jumping up and down on Oprah's couch....but I did.
Oh, just stop me now...
You know the clip of Tom shooting lightning at Oprah? I just imagined that but instead of shooting lightning from his hands he was shooting milk at her. Shall I order us both a family sized bucket of brain bleach?
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After reading this whole thread, *I* need a family sized bucket of brain bleach just for me!!
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I don't know about milk coming out of my hubby's nippled (ew) but he did stick the bottle of formula through his tank/shirt and fed my son from the side...LMAO funny pics
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Yay Aud! You're 'it'...Tag! You get the job of answering all that stuff, since you come online before me. I'll just sit quietly over here in the corner, because your post pretty much says what I was going to say[and have in the past said]
Marry "phew" ya
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Well, I know my newborn twins *wish* I could lactate, because when I hold them to me they start looking for nipples, but that's all on Mommy. Or Rose of Sharon. (Pt for ref.) So let me get this straight - L. Ron Hubbard came up with a formula for babies, and it's a crazy ass formula with barley and honey and NFSBK? Boy, those Scientolgists, they better look out. People might start thinking they're crazy or something.
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Not only did he come up with a formula for babies containing harmful ingredient while using bad science, but he claimed he traveled back to ancient Rome to get it!
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Rose of Sharon? Easy. Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck.
(Do I get the point?)
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I meant to comment on the topic at hand as well, but I didn't want anyone beating me to the punch.
As I understand it, the state of medicine as it pertains to inducing lactation in men is...well, not where it could be, if we were to put into it the kind of national interest and unlimited funding that we pour into, say, the war on terror. There have been reported incidents of success, but as someone's sig line once read, "the plural of anecdote is not 'data.'" What we really need is for more men to step forward to volunteer as subjects in this emerging field. And Tom Cruise seems like just the nut for the job.
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quote:posted by Ms. K Oh, the mental pictures, THE MENTAL PICTURES!
I really didn't need to picture Tommy trying to breastfeed while jumping up and down on Oprah's couch....but I did.
Oh, just stop me now...
You know the clip of Tom shooting lightning at Oprah? I just imagined that but instead of shooting lightning from his hands he was shooting milk at her. Shall I order us both a family sized bucket of brain bleach?
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Oh my Jesus jumped-up Christ.
Yeah, order that family-sized bucket of brain bleach. In fact, make it a double.
Ms. 'way more mental pictures, oh, the humanity' K
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Tom breastfeeding a pillow....now that's an image I can't quite get out of my head.
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