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steve s
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In the movie "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover" the characters clothes change color as they walk from one room to another. IIRC, the restroom was white, the dining room was red, and the kitchen was green.

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I'd like to mention Ettore Scola's "Le Bal", a movie without dialogues that plays in a small ballroom in Paris over 7 different periods of France's history. The personal drama of the characters (looking for love, meeting, leaving, betraying each other) is made timeless and universal by the everchanging set, costumes and music (History moves, humans remain the same).

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"The Jazz Singer" starring Al Jolson had a soundtrack. With talking and everything.

"Wizard of Oz" - changed to colour when Dorothy arrives in Oz.

"Schindler's List" was in black & white - except for the little girls' red coat.

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How surreal. My wife has been bugging me to watch the copy of "De-Lovely" we have from Netflix for weeks. I just watched it last night and read this this morning.

An okay film, but interesting the way "his life flashing before his eyes" was presented as a stage production.

I also got a kick out of the artists singing his music. I almost didn't recognize Elvis Costello.

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For its new approach to narrative, total absence of dialogue, and a groundbreaking relationship between score and cinematography:-

[lol] Has anyone mentioned Koyaanisqatsi? Has anyone mentioned Koyaanisqatsi? Has anyone? Has anyone? Has anyone? Has anyone? Has anyone mentioned Koyaanisqatsi? Has anyone? Has anyone? Has anyone mentioned Koyaanisqatsi? Has anyone? Has anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? [lol]

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YOMANK, Neffti.

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Neffti Noel
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quote:
Originally posted by AliBaba:
YOMANK, Neffti.

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Hurray! I was worried I'd get ticked off for repetition...

It's on my mind because I was lucky enough to see a live performance/screening of this last night.

It's also amazing how stress on busy roads/queues can be eliminated by adopting a high pitch and singing "Bug-ger-bug-ger-bug-ger-bug-ger". This is particularly impressive in groups.

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I'm not sure if it qualifies as gimmick filmmaking, but nearly every scene of "Cube" takes place in the same set, with different colored walls.

Another possibility is "Fight Club" which describes Tyler's projectionist antics, and then does the same trick to the film itself. If you look closely, you can spot where David Fincher spliced in some shots of naked men through the movie, Tyler pointing out the Cigarette Burn on the film itself, and the film appearing to burn up during Tyler's "You are not your khakis" speech.

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"Russian Ark" is a 96-minute-long movie that was filmed in 33 different rooms with 867 actors, more than 1,100 extras, and three live orchestras.

And it was done all in a single take on a single camera, with no editing.

It took over two years of practice before they were confident enough that everything would be perfect and finally filmed it.

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I'm not sure if this is done in any other movies, but in The Royal Tenenbaums, all of the main characters wear the same costumes (with slight variations in a few cases) throughout the entire movie. This is not realistic since the movie takes place over a period of several weeks or months (I'm not sure of the exact timeframe). Even in the final scene (which is a funeral), they are wearing the same types of clothing except that the clothes are now black. The most obvious example of this is Chas (Ben Stiller's character) who always wears a jogging suit.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mari the Bookworm:
quote:
Originally posted by Lindiglo:

And what's that Bogart picture, filmed in the first person?

I'm not sure if this is the one you mean, but there was a film based on Raymond Chandler's The Lady in the Lake where the actor playing Marlowe (I think it was Robert Montgomery, not Bogart) is never seen except in reflections, since the entire film is from his point of view. The ads said, "Starring YOU and Robert Montgomery!"


Well that fits the description more than mine, haha. Here's the one I was thinking of: a bit different, same idea.

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How about any movie produced by MTV? They seem pretty gimmicky to me.

What about The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, For a Few Dollars More and A Fistful of Dollars? Eastwood's character doesn't have an actual name in any, hence The Man with No Name.

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What if the gimmickry is used for more than one film? If that's acceptable, then I will nominate Yasujiro Ozu's career. Gimmicky features include: lack of moving camera, shots being taken mostly from a straight-on angle with the camera inches from the floor, bizarre, screen-filling medium close-ups of the characters in dialogue scenes, editing continuity being based primarily upon the positions of objects (and colors, in his color films) in frame, rather than the positions of the characters...

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I nominate What Is It?. The entire cast is people with Down's Syndrome (except for one character).

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Does anyone remember Comin' at Ya! ?

It was essentially a vehicle to promote the "latest" 3D technology of full color 3D. Rather than red and blue lens glasses, each side of the glasses was polarized differently. Without the glasses, the movie was just a blur.

The movie was horrible! Every scene was set up to show off 3D effects, that part was pretty neat. I remember jumping a few times, like in the flaming arrows scene.

NOBODY seems to remember it. It was 1981, and I was 12 at the time, so I hope I have described it correctly.

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Jason Threadslayer
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quote:
Originally posted by 1crazybob:
It was essentially a vehicle to promote the "latest" 3D technology of full color 3D. Rather than red and blue lens glasses, each side of the glasses was polarized differently.

Latest? Polarised 3-D was popular in the 1950s!

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Threadslayer:
quote:
Originally posted by 1crazybob:
It was essentially a vehicle to promote the "latest" 3D technology of full color 3D. Rather than red and blue lens glasses, each side of the glasses was polarized differently.

Latest? Polarised 3-D was popular in the 1950s!
Hence the quotes. That's what they advertised it as at the time...

How would one find a list of such movies?

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Jason Threadslayer
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I think Edwin Land's biography listed serveral.

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quote:
Originally posted by Clarkone68:
How about any movie produced by MTV? They seem pretty gimmicky to me.

What about The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, For a Few Dollars More and A Fistful of Dollars? Eastwood's character doesn't have an actual name in any, hence The Man with No Name.

Actually those movies were rip-offs of Kurosawa's films Yojimbo and Sanjuro, from what I've heard. I've never seen the Eastwood movies.

Has anyone mentioned Fantasia? That one seems to obvious.

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IIRC, Dark City didn't use typical studio lighting. The sets are lit by ordinary lightbulbs, streetlights, etc, giving most of the movie an interestingly shadowed look. (As far as I could tell, IMDB doesn't have anything to say about this, so I could be wrong.) It's also astonishingly free of product placement for a modern movie, which makes thematic sense as well as being a welcome change.

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quote:
Originally posted by Illuminatus:

Another possibility is "Fight Club" which describes Tyler's projectionist antics, and then does the same trick to the film itself. If you look closely, you can spot where David Fincher spliced in some shots of naked men through the movie

The spliced in picture of a penis is only seen at the very end of the movie. In the earlier half of the movie, it's pictures of Tyler that are spliced in.
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MOON CHILD as far as I know the only organised crime
and Vampire movie combined, and it was done as a culmination of a series of Albums by one of he leads. It also starred two of the biggest musical stars in Japan.

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What about "The Nightmare Before Christmas"? Sure I've seen other horror movies based at various times of the year but I've never seen such a cross-over between holidays before. Its a great marketing gimick since it could draw crowds from October through December. Even now it sometimes airs for both holidays (Halloween and Christmas) on television. I wouldn't be surprised if rentals of the movie also followed this trend. Isn't it great to have a seasonal movie that spans a quarter of the year?

ETA: I'd also like to add "Santa Claus". The version that was mocked my MST. It was sort of a Santa vs Satan odd theology, creepy mythology film (with horible sterotypes).

There was also a Holiday short "Christmas Snow". I still don't know what that's about but my dad makes us all watch it every year. It has Santa and cocaine in it and I'm not sure what its supposed to mean. I think its saying Santa will come beat your ass if you do drugs but I'm not sure. Although I must admit the whole thing is about Christmas Snow... its just the meaning of the term keeps changing. My dad thinks its sentimental or important or something. If you haven't seen it I can't really explain it. BTW, my dad loves all obscure or odd films. He's the one that gave me a tape of the original "Wicker Man" (not the strangely edited version that's commonly out there)... as well as many other films I've actualy watched but can't even begin to guess on what the point, plot, reason for the film might be.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wish You Were Her:
quote:
Originally posted by Illuminatus:

Another possibility is "Fight Club" which describes Tyler's projectionist antics, and then does the same trick to the film itself. If you look closely, you can spot where David Fincher spliced in some shots of naked men through the movie

The spliced in picture of a penis is only seen at the very end of the movie. In the earlier half of the movie, it's pictures of Tyler that are spliced in.
The male genitalia is in the first half. When Tyler's occupation is being described, it's not meant to be subliminal though.

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Of course, Wallace and Gromit movies/shorts must have gimmicks. [Smile]
In "The Wrong Trousers", Feathers McGraw, the criminal penguin, grows almost imperceptibly taller throughout the movie. Apparently this was done to make him gradually more menacing. As if that was necessary.

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quote:
Originally posted by Regina Felangie:
quote:
Originally posted by Wish You Were Her:
quote:
Originally posted by Illuminatus:

Another possibility is "Fight Club" which describes Tyler's projectionist antics, and then does the same trick to the film itself. If you look closely, you can spot where David Fincher spliced in some shots of naked men through the movie

The spliced in picture of a penis is only seen at the very end of the movie. In the earlier half of the movie, it's pictures of Tyler that are spliced in.
The male genitalia is in the first half. When Tyler's occupation is being described, it's not meant to be subliminal though.
I don't remember exactly when it appears (I think right after Jack is being stitched up in the hospital.) But it definately shows up more than once.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Mari the Bookworm:
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Originally posted by Lindiglo:

And what's that Bogart picture, filmed in the first person?

I'm not sure if this is the one you mean, but there was a film based on Raymond Chandler's The Lady in the Lake where the actor playing Marlowe (I think it was Robert Montgomery, not Bogart) is never seen except in reflections, since the entire film is from his point of view. The ads said, "Starring YOU and Robert Montgomery!"


Well that fits the description more than mine, haha. Here's the one I was thinking of: a bit different, same idea.
It's been a long time since I saw Dark Passage, but IIRC, it's only the in the early scenes that the protagonist's face isn't seen except in mirrors. He then has plastic surgery and looks like the familiar Bogart from then on, and the camera resumes its usual "third person" POV.

Regarding De-Lovely--the gimmick of Porter's "life as a musical number" was anticipated in 1979's All That Jazz, where the Bob Fosse-like character imagines his death as a musical number to the tune of "Bye Bye Love" ("Bye Bye Life"), and he sees his ex-wives, old lovers, etc. in a chorus line.

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I've never seen it, but Woody Allen's "Melinda and Melinda" sounds rather gimmicky. It tells the same story with the same actors and all but one version is as a comedy and the other as a drama. Again since I haven't seen it, i don't know if the stories run parrallel or if one plays and then the next.
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Moulin Rouge, which is a musical where all of the songs were made up of lyrics/titles from songs from the 1980s and 1990s, when the film itself is set in the late 1800s. (I love the rendition of "Show Must Go On".) Also, sticking with Baz Luhrman, there's Romeo + Juliet, which sets Romeo and Juliet in the 1990s but uses the entire original script of the play.

Someone mentioned The Royal Tenenbaums, but missed a lot of important stylistic things in it that were very interesting. First, there are several hundred interesting visual cues in the movie. So many, that the DVD comes with a map of the layouts of the various sets and points them out to you, including that Gweneth Paltrow's character smokes a brand of Irish cigarettes that were discontinued in the 1970s and tied to the cord in the board game closet is a green Monopoly hotel (hotels are red and houses are green in Monopoly). Also, all of the clothing, aside from remaining continuous throughout the film (with only one change during a funeral scene), is from the 1970s. The principal cast doesn't have anything that existed after the 1970s in their homes, and all of the music is from the 1970s...but said funeral scene says that the actions in the movie take place in 2001, and everyone around them is dressed appropriately for the times.

Some interesting things from TV rather than movies: there's an episode of the show Tales from the Crypt that stars Humphrey Bogart posthumously. It's set entirely from his POV, with only a glimpse of Bogart shown in mirrors. Humphrey Bogart is given starring credits for the episode.

Also, on the DVDs for the cartoon Invader ZIM, the only subtitle option (and this bothered me, as I am hard of hearing, but the closed captioning still works) is Irken, the alien language made up for the show.

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The only thing I can think of that might be gimmicky that hasn't been mentioned was "Carwash". I guess that might be gimmicky because it's set all in one day.

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Punch-Drunk Love has a gimmick similar to that of Tenenbaums mentioned earlier. Adam Sandler and Emily Watson's characters wear the same outfits through the whole movie -- his is blue, hers is red. I don't remember if the supporting characters wear the same outfits, though (there are very few of them anyway).

In general, there are a lot of color-related "gimmicks" (if you want to call them that) in that movie. Most of the sets are starkly devoid of color, so the bright outfits stand out. A notable exception is one scene in a grocery store where everything is sorted by the color of their labels/packaging.

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The Creeping Terror (which features a laughably-bad "alien menace" that looks much like a giant oven mitt) has only two or three lines of spoken dialogue. For the rest of the film, a narrator does a running commentary while the actors go through their paces.

And then, of course, there's The Crying Game, with its transvestite main character.

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quote:
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The Creeping Terror (which features a laughably-bad "alien menace" that looks much like a giant oven mitt) has only two or three lines of spoken dialogue. For the rest of the film, a narrator does a running commentary while the actors go through their paces.

And then, of course, there's The Crying Game, with its transvestite main character.

I am rather ashamed of people lately when I say someone "pulled a Crying Game" and no one gets it. Seriously, where's the love for the classics?

Of course, now we have Rent, with a transvestite main character, and Transamerica coming out this week, with its transsexual main character. And in the somewhat biographical arena there's Boys Don't Cry, which is more or less a biography of a transsexual. I am sure there have been many other films with transsexual or transvestite character since then, but Crying Game is still heralded as one of the greatest shocking moments in film history for the unveiling of the female protaganist actually being male.

ETA: A friend of mine just said "You're talking about tranny films and you don't mention Rocky Horror or Priscilla?!". So yeah, throw Rocky Horror Picture Show and Priscilla, Queen of the Desert in there.

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Whenever a date is specified in '1984,' the footage was actually filmed on that date in 1984.

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Originally posted by Tabby:less 'angelic,'more 'Angelus':
Whenever a date is specified in '1984,' the footage was actually filmed on that date in 1984.

I couldn't find any confirmation of this except for the note that apparently appears in the credits: "the exact location and time envisioned by the author". That's not quite the same thing as saying each date was filmed on that day, though. Are you sure? Or maybe you mean the single shot on which the date appears?
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