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e.grace
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There's a little legend in my town that says that Walt Disney travelled through here before Mickey Mouse was created, & sees a little wooden toy mouse named Micky. A toy-maker here made him. Then, BAM!, Mickey Mouse was created & is a sucess. My town is sad. The End.

I've seen the toy, & it looks eerily similar to Mickey. The only problem is is that the toy maker didn't put a date on the toy, so no one knows if it was made before or after Disney's Mickey was made.

Have any of you heard about this?

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There is a Mickey Mouse toy created by a company called Performo. Wikipedia has this to say on the subject:

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The similarities between both mice has led many to believe that Walt Disney stole his most successful idea from the Performo Toy Company. Apparently, the wooden mouse was very popular in New York City (where Performo's distributor was located) back in 1928, coincidently, at the same time Disney thought of the idea for his animation studio's new character.

There is a well known legend in Middletown about how Performo Toy Company sued The Walt Disney Company, but there are no records nor evidence of any legal action between the two parties.

A conspiracy theory may be easy to pull out from this story, however, History Detectives, a television program on PBS, conducted an extensive investigation on the topic. It concluded that it was a series of generic mice that featured in Felix the Cat (1922), Milton Mouse from Aesop's Film Fables (1920) or Ignatz Mouse from Krazy Kat (1914), which provided the inspiration for Mickey Mouse.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Performo_Toy_Company

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Mickey Mouse was invented on the train from New York to California. His wife was sitting next to him, loved the character, and asked Walt what his name is.

Walt originally named him Mortimer. His wife said "No one is going to like a mouse named Mortimer. Something like Mickey would work better."

and, TADA! Mickey Mouse was born!

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Mickey Mouse was invented on the train from New York to California.
The "Mickey was invented on a train" legend is the official Disney family story, but others maintain that Mickey was actually invented by Ub Iwerks (inspired by a panel of Meeker cartoon animals he spotted while flipping through magazines), and the Mortimer/Mickey name debate occurred only after Walt and his wife had returned from New York and Iwerks had presented his new mouse character creation to them.

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Nah. Performo stole form a 14th-century fresco.
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Alluvian
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This reminds me of the woman who tried to sue Dreamworks for the IP on SKRAT from Ice Age. She had some website devoted to a squirrel-rat which I think she called SQRAT. The two looked nothing alike though and she lost the case.

The Wiki link to that toy looks NOTHING AT ALL like micky mouse. There is simply NOTHING in common between the two other than that they are comical depictions of mice.

Of course comical depictions of mice are going to have some things in common. The fresco shot looks more like micky due to the large ears which are his calling card. But other than 'has large ears' and 'is mouse' there is nothing more in common.

Mickey was a hit not just because of his static image, but moreso his animations and personality shown through those animations.

It is my belief that Mickey was a hit because of the studio support, merchandising, etc... IMO Mickey would have been JUST as big of a success had he been called mortimer, or if he was a cat, or a dog, or a goldfish, or an alien.

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Originally posted by Page Three:
Nah. Performo stole form a 14th-century fresco.
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Ub Iwerks drew Mickoids for years before Mickey came to be officially christened. In the "Alice in Cartoonland" series that Disney did in Kansas City before he eventually migrated to the California sun, there are dozens of little mice who look almost exactly like the 1928-model Mickey.

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Not to mention that M. Mouse Esq. is very similar to Disney's earlier 'Oswald the lucky rabbit' to whom he lost the rights.

As mentioned though, it was Ub Iwerks who created the character. Disney, for all his genius and shortcomings, was more of a producer and director than a character designer...

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I love that Simpsons episode.
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Mouse-shaped waffles.

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Gotta love this, from the fresco story:

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But art historians are not convinced the water-damaged depiction is a mouse at all.

The figure is portrayed kneeling in front of a depiction of St Christopher.

Historians say the creature may in fact be a weasel, which in medieval times was believed to give birth through its ears.

I was not aware of that.

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Wasn't Mickey's original name was Willie (as in Steamboat Willie)? I always heard the "Walt's wife didn't like the name" story in regards to the name Willie.

BTW, Mortimer Mouse is now Mickey's antagonist. He is taller, uglier, and has a longer snout. I have no idea when this character was created, but he seems to be a more modern addition.

That toy doesn't look anything like Mickey Mouse. It's possible the name is just a coincedence.

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Originally posted by moonfall86:
Wasn't Mickey's original name was Willie (as in Steamboat Willie)? I always heard the "Walt's wife didn't like the name" story in regards to the name Willie.

Mickeys original name was suggested to be Mortimer, but that was shot down by Disney's wife as she said that kids wouldn't like it.

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