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Animation giant Disney has regained the rights to cartoon character Oswald The Lucky Rabbit, the forerunner to Mickey Mouse.

http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3479877

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Major D. Saster
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Hey - look at this... after all these years...

I heard the story of young Disney losing the rights to his first cartoon character Oswald the lucky Rabbit a few years ago, and was told it was the reason why Walt Disney (and his company after him) had become so terribly sensitive about copyrights.

Now the question is, what shall they do with Oswald ? Make a few nostalgic cartoons as some kind of late revenge, or let the Rabbit rest in peace ?

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More accurately, Major, is that Walt had Oswald taken away from him by the production company he used to work for. The company laid Disney off (is that the correct way to say it?), and when he went to the New York office (from California) to dispute it, they told him that because he made Oswald while working for them, that Oswald's rights were owned by the company. IIRC, this happened in 1922.
My guess would be that they will show some of his cartoons on the Disney channel, and make a DVD of the cartoons (they've made DVDs of old Fabulous 7 cartoons). I also wouldn't be surprised if they incorporate him into "House of Mouse", and possibly (though I'm not holding my breath) make a meet and greet character of him.

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Personally, without Ub Iwerks to animate him, I suspect Oswald will sink with a clunk, except for true animation history fans.

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Disney doesn't want him for "true animation" fans - they want him because they think he'll be a hit in Japan. Seriously.

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Jim Hill's article from February 10 regarding the Oswald re-aquisition, and some near-future plans for the 'lucky rabbit'.

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More accurately, Major, is that Walt had Oswald taken away from him by the production company he used to work for. The company laid Disney off (is that the correct way to say it?), and when he went to the New York office (from California) to dispute it, they told him that because he made Oswald while working for them, that Oswald's rights were owned by the company. IIRC, this happened in 1922.
Not quite. The "Oswald" shorts produced by Disney were distributed by Universal. Disney's distribution contract with Universal expired in 1928, so he traveled to New York to negotiate a new one. Universal proposed cutting the price they paid Disney for each "Oswald" short (even though the character was by then quite popular), and when Disney balked at the deal, they threatened to hire his animators away from him. When Disney went shopping around for a new distributor, he discovered that his previous contract with Universal had ceded copyright ownership of Oswald to them.

Rather than, in effect, going to work for Universal, Walt opted to remain independent and start over with a new character, Mickey Mouse.

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So in essence, you could say that Universal created its biggest rival. You gotta love that. *evil cackle*

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Thanks, Psihala. I planned to link that same article but got called away from the PC for a bit longer than expected.

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Jim Hill is actually not a very reliable source. A lot of the time, cast members will laugh at his articles.

ETA: in fact, there HAS been news put out about Toy Story 3- it's been canned. So no more Toy Story 3.

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More accurately, Major, is that Walt had Oswald taken away from him by the production company he used to work for. The company laid Disney off (is that the correct way to say it?), and when he went to the New York office (from California) to dispute it, they told him that because he made Oswald while working for them, that Oswald's rights were owned by the company. IIRC, this happened in 1922.
Not quite. The "Oswald" shorts produced by Disney were distributed by Universal. Disney's distribution contract with Universal expired in 1928, so he traveled to New York to negotiate a new one. Universal proposed cutting the price they paid Disney for each "Oswald" short (even though the character was by then quite popular), and when Disney balked at the deal, they threatened to hire his animators away from him. When Disney went shopping around for a new distributor, he discovered that his previous contract with Universal had ceded copyright ownership of Oswald to them.

Rather than, in effect, going to work for Universal, Walt opted to remain independent and start over with a new character, Mickey Mouse.

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Sorry, I had Traditions (the Disney class that's the first day of being on-the-clock for cast members) over 3 years ago. When you're in a room with no windows, blasting AC, in business attire for 6 hours (and you're 18 years old)...you can't absorb everything!

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Jim Hill is actually not a very reliable source. A lot of the time, cast members will laugh at his articles.

ETA: in fact, there HAS been news put out about Toy Story 3- it's been canned. So no more Toy Story 3.

Yeah, Disney's version was canned. Lassiter will only go forward with a sequel if HE has control over it. Check out the stories here, here, and here.

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Thanks for the precisions (it's about what I had heard). Being a graphic designer myself, I can fully understand how Disney must have felt back in 1928. Yet, things are not that different today: everything you create as an employee belongs to your boss (unless you can negociate a contract that says otherwise - but it's pretty unlikely).

No wonder such a talented man as Disney chose to go his own way.

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Yet, things are not that different today: everything you create as an employee belongs to your boss (unless you can negociate a contract that says otherwise - but it's pretty unlikely).
No wonder such a talented man as Disney chose to go his own way.

Disney was always an independent filmmaker who (along with his brother, Roy) ran his own company. The problem was that no matter how independent he might be, he still had to deal with a whole chain of other businesses -- suppliers, retailers, distributors, exhibitors -- and he got snookered by one of them. To his credit, he didn't make the same mistake twice.

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Yet, things are not that different today: everything you create as an employee belongs to your boss (unless you can negociate a contract that says otherwise - but it's pretty unlikely).
No wonder such a talented man as Disney chose to go his own way.

Disney was always an independent filmmaker who (along with his brother, Roy) ran his own company. The problem was that no matter how independent he might be, he still had to deal with a whole chain of other businesses -- suppliers, retailers, distributors, exhibitors -- and he got snookered by one of them. To his credit, he didn't make the same mistake twice.

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One thing I do remember from Traditions is that Walt was the creative side, Roy was the practical side. Also, Walt built many, many companies to provide services himself. But if you're saying that earlier in his career, he had to deal with all those people, then you're right.

*hijack*
By the way, Walt went bankrupt at least three times, IIRC
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